One Member of the Bush Base in TROUBLE

Ken Lay the biggest contributor of George W. Bush Convicted!

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Yesterday one of the Bush Base was convicted in two trials- One before a judge for personal fraud by making false statements to his bank and the jury trial in the ENRON case. Between the two convictions the former Bush supporter could spend 30 years for the first conviction and 176 years for the ENRON conviction in prison.

Here is an example of the type of person that Bush calls the elites- the Haves and the Have Mores - ”His Base. I wonder if Mr. Lay or his side kick Jeffery Skilling can make enough contributions to the GOP to BUY a Bush Pardon?
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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top
How pathetic. All you liberals complained about is how Lay was going to get off because of Bush. He gets convicted and you still complain. Col, Bush was elected by the majority of people in this country. I guess all them are the have-mores right.

You are a sad individual.
Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top
So if Jeffery Dahmer voted Democrat, can I say that Hillary's base includes gay, serial-murdering cannibals? Wanna go back and talk about Clinton's Chinese friends?
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Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top
Felons, illegal immigrants, hookers, and terrorists are the voting base of the democratic party. I guess you don't have a problem with that.
Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top
How many of Clinton's entourage ended up in jail? Weren't many of those folks big contributors to his campaigns? I don't think Dems want to paint themselves with the moral character of the people who are their biggest cash cows.
Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top
Ken Lay gave Bush about $700,000 dollars. This is the type of person that is a part of the Bush base. If Bush had his way there would be no regulatory authority. After all we should just let business operate with no control. The market place will take care of ALL. Here is another person that made millions and screwed thousands of the little guys while he got rich!
Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top
If Bush doesn't pardon them, will you retract your insinuations?
Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top
Too friggin' bad for the purposes of the morally corrupt author of this article that all of the wrong doing occured during Clinton's watch, and all of the prosecution occured during Bush's.

It's Bush's Justice department that took down these con-men. Remember that.

It was during the heydays of the Clinton years that the shell game was going on at Enron, and during that time a sham house of cards was created, with little or no real money involved. Too bad the Clueless One's favored tax men and women weren't able to actually find out that there was no money at Enron.
Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top
In the 2000 election, Gore received over 83% of the prison vote.
Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top
BTW - where's your articles about the Chinese contributions to Clinton? The daily sales of rooms at the Whitehouse during the Clinton years? Some comments about Abramhoff and his contributions to buy influence from Dems and Repubs alike?

Didn't think so. You're too morally bankrupt to write on those issues.
Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top
Bonus Factoid:

Enron was in favor of the Kyoto Protocol, and the carbon-trading schemes it mandated.

http://www.cei.org/gencon/019,02898.cfm
Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top
Haha!

That's great.

Ken Lay perpetrates heinous shenanigans under the Clinton adminsitration. Then he donates huge amounts of money to Bush.

And what does he get in return? An investigation, a trial, and a conviction. From the Bush Justice Department.

If Gene were in any way an honest person, he would be holding this up as an example of Bush's principles and honesty.
Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top
Col, I hear a double standard being used in your posts again. Why don't you hold democrats to the same standard?

But this is typical of you.

A democrat says Iraq is a threat, has WMD's, and will use them. No comment.

A republican says it they are a liar.
Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top
The Enron scandal was the largest failure in our history. Please do not give me the virtue of Bush as the reason Ken Lay went to trial. He was the LARGEST Bush supporter and an example of the type of GREED that supports Bush and his policies.

There were many scandals investigated during the Clinton Administration and I can not remember ANY where Clinton was found Guilty. None of the issues during the Clinton Administration could hold a candle to the kinds to things that have taken place during the past 6 years. No one died because Clinton lied about having sex like when Bush lied about Iraq being a danger to this country that required us to send our Military to be killed and injured.

I support punishment for ALL officials that break the law. Like Cheney telling Libby about Mrs. Wilson and then outing a CIA agent to the press. There has not been a presidential administration that was more secretive then the Bush administration. They have even been criticized by GOP leaders in Congress because they use Executive Privilege and selective classification or release of classified information to get their way.

Bush and Cheney and not trusted by the majority of Americans and YES that is from Poll after Poll. They all say the same thing and taken together it is clear that the AWOL George and Draft Dodger Dick are about the same place as Nixon and Ague after Watergate. All your continued support for the kinds of things Bush has been doing shows your character. When Bush ran for President in 2000 he pledged that he would not tolerate EVEN A HINT of improper behavior in his administration. WHAT A JOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reply #14 from JoeUser Forums Top
Please do not give me the virtue of Bush as the reason Ken Lay went to trial. He was the LARGEST Bush supporter and an example of the type of GREED that supports Bush and his policies.


Col, why do you ignore everything that was posted to you?


No one died because Clinton lied about having sex like when Bush lied about Iraq being a danger to this country that required us to send our Military to be killed and injured.


Bush didn't lie col. Get over it.


Bush and Cheney and not trusted by the majority of Americans and YES that is from Poll after Poll.


A media poll of 1000 Americans that oversamples democrats. Please be clear about that col.



I support punishment for ALL officials that break the law.


Except for democrats.


They all say the same thing and taken together it is clear that the AWOL George and Draft Dodger Dick are about the same place as Nixon and Ague after Watergate. All your continued support for the kinds of things Bush has been doing shows your character. When Bush ran for President in 2000 he pledged that he would not tolerate EVEN A HINT of improper behavior in his administration. WHAT A JOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Bush was not AWOL col. Why do you continue to post these rants and stories that you make up? Please tell us which laws Bush and Cheney have broken, and please provide documented evidence of your accusation.

You conveniently ignore all the posts that were made to you. The only joke here is your pathetic posts.
Reply #15 from JoeUser Forums Top
IslandDog
I support punishment of ALL officials that break our laws Republican and Democrat.

Bush and Cheney DID LIE. They had the Intel that clearly showed that Saddam had NO nuclear weapons and that he had NO military capability to attack this country. Despite having that information they told us that Saddam was such a threat we had to invade Iraq in early 2003 to prevent those mushroom clouds from appearing over our cities from an attack by Saddam. THAT WAS A LIE that has cost us almost 2,500 lives, 18,000 injuries and Hundreds of Billions of Dollars.

Yes Bush was AWOL when he did not report for drills for 5 months and failed to report for a training exercise that his unit was participating in 1972. ANY other member of the Guard would have been either placed on Active Duty at that time for failure to attend drills or would have received punishment to include an Administrative or Bad Conduct discharge. What no other officer that did what Bush did would be granted is an EARLY HONORABLE Discharge. I was a Reserve Unit Commander at that time and KNOW what the procedures were for members of the Guard and Reserve that did the kinds of things Bush did in 1972 and 1973.

The polls I am talking about are ALL the polls not just a single poll including the Fair and Balanced polls from FOX!
Reply #16 from JoeUser Forums Top
I support punishment of ALL officials that break our laws Republican and Democrat.


Then why do you single out democrats? Where is the articles about the corruption of the democratic party?


Bush and Cheney DID LIE. They had the Intel that clearly showed that Saddam had NO nuclear weapons and that he had NO military capability to attack this country. Despite having that information they told us that Saddam was such a threat we had to invade Iraq in early 2003 to prevent those mushroom clouds from appearing over our cities from an attack by Saddam. THAT WAS A LIE that has cost us almost 2,500 lives, 18,000 injuries and Hundreds of Billions of Dollars.


Democrats said the same thing. Gen. Zinni said the same thing. Most intelligence agencies around the world believed Saddam was a threat. There is no evidence of any intentional lie on the part of Bush or Cheney. You have never proved that and everything you say is your opinion, nothing else.


Yes Bush was AWOL when he did not report for drills for 5 months and failed to report for a training exercise that his unit was participating in 1972. ANY other member of the Guard would have been either placed on Active Duty at that time for failure to attend drills or would have received punishment to include an Administrative or Bad Conduct discharge. What no other officer that did what Bush did would be granted is an EARLY HONORABLE Discharge. I was a Reserve Unit Commander at that time and KNOW what the procedures were for members of the Guard and Reserve that did the kinds of things Bush did in 1972 and 1973.


You have been proved wrong on this so many times I have lost count. Bush received honorable discharge. He was never considered AWOL except by Dan Rather. Col, you don't speak for the Guard. As a matter of fact all you do is disgrace them everytime you mention this.

Pathetic.

The polls I am talking about are ALL the polls not just a single poll including the Fair and Balanced polls from FOX!


Why do you bring up Fox News? Since you are a liberal I guess you believe Fox works for Bush right?

Col, I have shown time and time again the polls you show are from 1000 Americans, and most of them oversample democrats to get the answers the want. Bush won a large victory in November. No matter what you talk about Bush you never criticize democrats. All you talk about is how they should be in power without once questioning anything they do. That is why you are a political hack.
Reply #17 from JoeUser Forums Top
" The Enron scandal was the largest failure in our history."


'nuf said. With that, anyone that took high school history class should be able to see the farce this is.
Reply #18 from JoeUser Forums Top
The Intel and the military assessment of Saddam was far different then Bush pictured. There was some Intel that said he had some WMD. There was NO INTEL that said he had a nuclear program like Bush and Cheney said with their mushroom Cloud scare tactics. That was a LIE pure and simple. Also the Military assessment at the time showed Saddam had NO OFFENSIVE capability so HOW was he a threat?
Reply #19 from JoeUser Forums Top
Bush may have received an Honorable discharge the point is that his conduct did not earn an Honorable Discharge. The reason you all do not want to admit that he did not obey orders and regulations is that would mean he should NOT have received the Honorable discharge and with out that he could not have run for ANY Office. He got the Honorable Discharge the same was he got into the Guard with the help of Daddy's contacts. If Bush was named Smith, he would NEVER have received an Honorable discharge!!!!!!
Reply #20 from JoeUser Forums Top
Bakerstreet

Show me one corporate failure that was larger in dollars or number of people injured then ENRON.
Reply #21 from JoeUser Forums Top
There was NO INTEL that said he had a nuclear program like Bush and Cheney said with their mushroom Cloud scare tactics. That was a LIE pure and simple


Col, was this statement a lie. Just answer the question without your usual BS rhetoric.

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Reply #22 from JoeUser Forums Top
Col, this is why you are a political hack for the democratic party.

Documents obtained by TIME show the energy giant enjoyed much closer ties with Clinton Administration regulators than was generally known. Long before Cheney's task force met with Enron officials and included their ideas in Bush's energy plan, Clinton's energy team was doing much the same thing. Drafting a 1995 plan to help facilitate cash flow and credit for energy producers, it asked for Enron's input—and listened. The staff was directed to "rework the proposal to take into account the specific comments and suggestions you made," Clinton Deputy Energy Secretary Bill White wrote an Enron official.


http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,338580,00.html


Oh wait, there's more.


Enron showed its gratitude. At Christmas 1995, documents show, it donated an unknown sum of cash in O'Leary's name to a charity called "I Have a Dream." And when Clinton ran for re-election a year later, the company made its largest single contribution ever—$100,000—to the President's party.
Reply #23 from JoeUser Forums Top
"Bakerstreet

Show me one corporate failure that was larger in dollars or number of people injured then ENRON."


Worldcom, for one. They'd claimed like 10 billion more in assetts than they were worth, and had to pay something like 700 million to the SEC to pay back investors that got screwed, and supposedly that wasn't nearly equitable to what was lost. They had billions in debt when they went under. It is the largest bankruptcy in US history if I recall.

If you want to go way back, you could go back to a time when people actually WERE ruined, like starved to death or killed themselves ruined instead of just losing their retirement. The Credit Mobilier (sp?) scandal stole tens of millions, in 1870's dollars, from investors and bankrupted a railroad. Lots of politicians were found to have been bought off.

If you wanted to you could find tons of heinous business scandals that left untold numbers of lives in the wreckage, and tons where politics was directly involved. You don't want truth, though, you want any accusation you toss at Bush to be the worst instance ever. Even if it isn't, you'll claim it is.
Reply #24 from JoeUser Forums Top
all the scandal you are whining about every major one, all the books being cooked all the lies being told. not one happened on Bushes watch you fecking MORON, all of them happened on Clinton's watch you IDIOT, but I am sure you will ignore this because you never argue with FACTS you imbecile. you will just go merry and happy on your way masturbating to the mantra... OH GEORGE i LOVE YOU! i WANT YOU! you make me whole! oh Bush you make me fee just like a woman.
Reply #25 from JoeUser Forums Top
The idiots on this Web sight are a GREAT complement to Bush and the scandals that surround his administration. There are also some Democratic crooks but nothing like the current GOP Crooks. The Democrats screw people one at a time and the Republicans screw everyone all at once. The next president will be faced with cleaning up the greatest miss management in our history!

When Bush was at Harvard he told his Economics Prof that things like the SEC and government regulation was unneeded. He said people were poor because they wanted to be poor. He said Social Security and Medicare were socialism and the FDR was to blame. What Bush said in his late 20’s is what he is trying to do now. Destroy this country for ALL but his wealthy Base! I do not know how many of you have a net worth above 10 Million and an annual income above $200,000, but for those that do not, you are supporting someone that will be to your determent in the future. Just wait until this country wakes up to what Bush has done to the financial health of this country. It is a disaster.