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249,000 New Iraqi Troops continue to fight for freedom!!!!

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249,000 New Iraqi Troops continue to fight for freedom!!!!

from JoeUser Forums
While a certain cowardly Bush hater points out what 1,000 cowards did I thought the other number should be shown!!

So a small percentage of troops quit!!!! Americans ran like hell in vietnam!!!!! Many deserted!!!!!

The vast majority contine to fight for there countries freedeom,!!!!!


Good for you men of Iraq~!!!

Fight on!!!! Do Not listen to cowardly members of our country!!!!!
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Reply #51 from JoeUser Forums Top
This colonel has more love and regard for our great nation then to see it destroyed by the likes of the people that are in power today. I respect the lives of our military more then to send them into battle under false pretenses. This Country WAS NOT in ANY danger from Iraq and yet we asked then to risk and in some cases give up their lives. There is no greater wrong that a country can do then to sacrifice the lives of its military for a LIE!

WE did not tell them they were going into Iraq to give the Iraqi People a chance to vote. WE did not tell them it was to remove an evil dictator. We told them there was the danger of a mushroom cloud over one or more of their cities. A FLAT OUT LIE that Bush and Cheney knew was not true when that stood in front of the people of this country and LIED! Anyone that supports them is just as bad as they are for sending our military to a fight that did not make us safer and was not because we were in danger!!!!!
Reply #52 from JoeUser Forums Top
Yeah, and 9/11/01 was just an unfortunate air traffic snafu. Gene, you're so far out of touch with reality it's truly sad. You're a pathetic excuse for a former miltary officer and a traitor to your nation.
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Reply #53 from JoeUser Forums Top
59 by MasonM
Friday, May 05, 2006


Gene, you're so far out of touch with reality it's truly sad. You're a pathetic excuse for a former miltary officer and a traitor to your nation.


bingo, red lights flashing "we have a winner folks"
Reply #54 from JoeUser Forums Top
More of your BS. Iraq and Saddam had NOTHING to do with 9/11! You are in the wrong country.

MasonM

I served my country for 30 years. DO NOT TELL ME ANYTHING. ANYONE that supports AWOL George and Draft Dodger DICK are pathetic people!
Reply #55 from JoeUser Forums Top
#61 by COL Gene
Friday, May 05, 2006


I served my country for 30 years.


NO yer dint, yer hid from reality fer 30 years.
Reply #56 from JoeUser Forums Top

More of your BS. Iraq and Saddam had NOTHING to do with 9/11! You are in the wrong country.

MasonM

I served my country for 30 years. DO NOT TELL ME ANYTHING. ANYONE that supports AWOL George and Draft Dodger DICK are pathetic people!


"I" may be pathetic, but at least I'm not a moronic fracking idiot like you seem to be. You STINKING REMF! That's "if" you even know what that is.
And I've told you before, you can't "tell" a jack-a** nothing!
Reply #57 from JoeUser Forums Top
#63 by drmiler
Friday, May 05, 2006


being a patriot is never PATHETIC, BUT being a traitor to country is, cowardgene remf.
Reply #58 from JoeUser Forums Top
MM
wonder if the anti American Col realizes that much more than 1,000 of our own Minute Men ended up deserting their posts, or not showing up to battles. Gen. Washington despised the militias and rarely planned on them being present for battles.

If Gen. Washington listened to people like ColGene, there wouldn't be a United States of America for them to feign allegience to.


anything that does not support cancergene, he ignores!


ColGene's response to my post is a great case for your point ;~D
Reply #59 from JoeUser Forums Top
if there really are 249,000 iraqi troops capable of fighting for anything other than what they're told by sectarian imams & emirs (which i guess might possibly qualify as 'freedom'--as in 'freedom to avenge tribal grudges from the 8th to the 21st century'), yall might have a point (other than the one on dr 'i know saddam had 500 tons of yellowcake cuz i read it at worldweeklynewsdotnet' miler's head).

as to the 1000 renegade troops, you may or may not remember the brilliant early on in vietnam strategy of providing automatic rifles to each lil collection of hootches in the south (the rationale being to ensure they could protect themselves).

40 years from now, some of yall just may find our iraqi military training program as astounding as i still do the decision to 'hey why don't we give the vietcong a couple thousand new automatic weapons to replace those old muskets n shit they're using now?'
Reply #60 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: kingbeePosted: Saturday, May 06, 2006


40 years from now, some of yall just may find our iraqi military training program as astounding as i still do the decision to 'hey why don't we give the vietcong a couple thousand new automatic weapons to replace those old muskets n shit they're using now?'


this is a great point, not only will they have a large well trained force, but trained by the best military in the world, scarey thought!
Reply #61 from JoeUser Forums Top
Yes drmiler you hit the nail on the head. No matter what the results show, you and others on this wed site continue to have their head up their A*s!
Reply #62 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: COL GenePosted: Sunday, May 07, 2006Yes drmiler you hit the nail on the head. No matter what the results show, you and others on this wed site continue to have their head up their A*s!


better than having a huge terrorist stick his mr. happy up yers, although from what I have seen here, you would like that.
Reply #63 from JoeUser Forums Top
Yes drmiler you hit the nail on the head. No matter what the results show, you and others on this wed site continue to have their head up their A*s!


Oh, do shut up! You "idiotic" troll. Have a cookie.
Reply #64 from JoeUser Forums Top
#70 by drmiler
Sunday, May 07, 2006


Yes drmiler you hit the nail on the head. No matter what the results show, you and others on this wed site continue to have their head up their A*s!


Oh, do shut up! You "idiotic" troll. Have a cookie.


john? cancergene is a perfect example of what went wrong with our military.
Reply #65 from JoeUser Forums Top
john? cancergene is a perfect example of what went wrong with our military.


He's the kind of officer that got fragged in Nam. I would have pulled the pin....Gratis!
Reply #66 from JoeUser Forums Top
You men sure play down and dirty with those you disagree with.

Remind me to never get a screenname here and write.
Reply #67 from JoeUser Forums Top
#72 by drmiler
Sunday, May 07, 2006


john? cancergene is a perfect example of what went wrong with our military.


He's the kind of officer that got fragged in Nam. I would have pulled the pin....Gratis!


yikes john , that particular practice WAS NOT in effect when I was there and I totally disapprove of it.
Reply #68 from JoeUser Forums Top
#73 by spindoctor (Anonymous user)
Sunday, May 07, 2006


You men sure play down and dirty with those you disagree with.

Remind me to never get a screenname here and write.


remind me to block anon. posters if you feel this way.
Reply #69 from JoeUser Forums Top

Yes drmiler you hit the nail on the head. No matter what the results show, you and others on this wed site continue to have their head up their A*s!

Why dont you write an article telling us the view?  That is your best asset after all.

Reply #70 from JoeUser Forums Top

Reply By: spindoctor(Anonymous User)Posted: Sunday, May 07, 2006
You men sure play down and dirty with those you disagree with.

Remind me to never get a screenname here and write.

No, SD, learn the difference between trolls and debaters.  If you read here enough, you would understand the difference between a kingbee and stevendedalus and a col gene.

Reply #71 from JoeUser Forums Top
76 by Dr. Guy
Sunday, May 07, 2006


Yes drmiler you hit the nail on the head. No matter what the results show, you and others on this wed site continue to have their head up their A*s!

Why dont you write an article telling us the view? That is your best asset after all.


we already know genes view, "BUSH DID IT"
Reply #72 from JoeUser Forums Top
#77 by Dr. Guy
Sunday, May 07, 2006


No, SD, learn the difference between trolls and debaters. If you read here enough, you would understand the difference between a kingbee and stevendedalus and a col gene.


Both steven and kingbee can debate rings around me.But I do love tweaking there collective noses. Heh heh heh heh
Reply #73 from JoeUser Forums Top
The domino theory. Well that proved to be a lie.


No, it just proved to be wrong. It was a valid theory, nonetheless. That assumes you understand the meaning of the term.

The people of Vietnam did not support the regime we tried to prop up in the south.


Bit of an oversimplification, that. We'll just have to wait for a democratic election in PRVN to find out, I guess.

In Iraq we have allowed the sectarian hatred that has existed in Iraq since the British formed Iraq to boil over because when we deposed Saddam we were unable to keep the factions from reemerging and creating the violence you see day after day. The three factions were kept from conducting the type of violence we see today by POWER First the British and then Saddam. We went into that country with a force strong enough to defeat Saddam but not strong enough to prevent the sectarian violence that is taking place now. We lost control within about three months of deposing Saddam. It may take an all out civil war to establish what will take hold in Iraq and we can not get drawn into a civil war!


And how, exactly, would all that sectarian hatred have evaporated had we occupied Iraq with a more oppressive force? We could have put half a million troops in there and perhaps had less terrorist-on-Iraqi & Iraqi-on-Iraqi violence, but certainly at the cost of much more terrorist-on-GI & Sunni-on-GI violence and only until we drew down or left. There is no alternative to letting the process play itself out. No invasion plan, no matter how well-executed, would have avoided these internal conflicts occurring, short of annihilating the Sunni minority. If you ask me, the formerly oppressed Shia have been remarkably tolerant of their former Sunni masters.

No matter what anyone says, Bush avoided Vietnam by going into the Guard just like Cheney and Clinton used deferments to avoid service.


Well, we knew that was coming. You are so predictable and it's truly sad to see such jealous rage render someone so incapable of sober reflection.
Reply #74 from JoeUser Forums Top
80 by Daiwa
Sunday, May 07, 2006




And how, exactly, would all that sectarian hatred have evaporated had we occupied Iraq with a more oppressive force? We could have put half a million troops in there and perhaps had less terrorist-on-Iraqi & Iraqi-on-Iraqi violence, but certainly at the cost of much more terrorist-on-GI & Sunni-on-GI violence and only until we drew down or left. There is no alternative to letting the process play itself out. No invasion plan, no matter how well-executed, would have avoided these internal conflicts occurring, short of annihilating the Sunni minority. If you ask me, the formerly oppressed Shia have been remarkably tolerant of their former Sunni masters.


great questions posed, but do not expect any answeres gene will not answer anything thata does not call for an anti-american or hatred of GWB RANT!