Why Bush 41 was Upset with Criticism of His Son George

Because it happened at a funeral, denigrating the dearly departed

In answer to the Clueless One (and his newly popping up clones) utter glee at George W. Bush being denigrated and insulted by the participants in the funeral of Coretta Scott King, and then having his father, former President George H.W. Bush, decry that behavior, I'll offer equal time and space to the truth, which the C.O.L. has again ignored.

The C.O.L., continuing to be mad at the world and all things Bush, sits back and shows himself to be an utter ignoramus when it comes to what should be expected to be proper behavior at a funeral. I'm betting that the Clueless One probably loved the Senator Paul Wellstone funeral a few years back, even though it was believed to be part of what accounted for the Senate falling back into the hands of the GOP, even more solidly so in the time since.

Apparently liberals are primarily bereft of good taste, manners, and etiquette. A funeral may be a place for celebration, but it's not a place where the general public will ever accept insult and defammation of others, even if some in attendance cheer and egg on such behavior.

This was supposed to have been a funeral for Coretta Scott King. A woman worthy of high praise, and whose accomplishments are worth celebrating. But also a woman that was married to a man -- that despite his own flaws -- believed in fighting the good fight, in the right way. He accomplished many of his goals by arguing the right way, by using civil disobedience and other non-agressive means of getting what he wanted done. He didn't attack others personally, he attacked their flaws, and inspired everyone to dream bigger, reach higher, and do more.

Sadly the C.O.L. and many like him can't dream bigger, reach higher or do more, for they are low life pathetic liberal scum that have no goals other than to rob from the rich and give to the government, and then cry because the government isn't doing enough, is creating even bigger deficits because of bigger spending plans that aren't the right priorities for anyone.

I note that on the Clueless One's current article he didn't even bother with the whining hypotheticals... No "WHY" for this one. The reason -- quite simply, is the WHY I've documented here above ^^^.
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I posted a reply on that blog as well. It just goes to show how deep he's having to dig to find an excuse to rattle off the same list of complaints again. I think he has vowed to post them on the internet at least once a day for the rest of his life.

Either that, or he is a plant for Republicans who want to see the focus remain on a lame duck President right up until time for the next election. All the energy wasted on Bush is just energy they aren't devoting to getting the real job done.
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That was far more than just a funeral. King was a political leader and was against pretty much everything Bush stands for. So what better tribute than to insult Bush at her funeral!
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Another testament to the class and upbringing of the average ignorant Bush hater. Keep 'em coming, voters are watching.
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King was a political leader and was against pretty much everything Bush stands for.


Really?

Then do tell us what King stood for and how Bush's positions are different.
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Then do tell us what King stood for and how Bush's positions are different.


Are you seriously asking, or are you trying to be funny?
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Are you seriously asking, or are you trying to be funny?


I'm seriously asking, but you better bring hard proof to your claims and not just conjecture. Bring it on if you want to make the blustery statements and accusations.
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Well, he's right to a point. It's a myth that King was akin to Bill Cosby in terms of black self-reliance. In reality King was in favor of reparations, believed the free market and democracy as a whole to be suspect in terms of minority rights.

An interesting read, if you read it with an open mind. I can say that I am in opposition with many of King's ideas, as much as I am with Jesse Jackson and the rest. My opinion is that if King had lived he would be right in there with Jackson and Sharpton and the rest.

I think King would be holding up corporations and demanding reparations and doing all the stuff we despise the modern quasi-civil rights movement for. So, sure, he would be in opposition of Bush, and most of us as well.
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I'm seriously asking, but you better bring hard proof to your claims and not just conjecture. Bring it on if you want to make the blustery statements and accusations.


I'll get back to you on this, but in the meantime would you kindly point me to any "blustery statements and accusations" I made.
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posted a reply on that blog as well. It just goes to show how deep he's having to dig to find an excuse to rattle off the same list of complaints again. I think he has vowed to post them on the internet at least once a day for the rest of his life.


It has nothing to do with digging. He has his own grave. Now it is just how deep he wants to dig his grave. As he is really clueless.
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That was far more than just a funeral. King was a political leader and was against pretty much everything Bush stands for. So what better tribute than to insult Bush at her funeral!


Ok, that is a good point. Where can I shit on your mothers funeral?
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would you kindly point me to any "blustery statements and accusations" I made.


Call it a pre-emptive strike against the generic "Bush hates all black people" type messages that most would anticipate, and which some have made.


Baker, I'm not that big on it being a myth that King was not into self reliance. King was, above all (I think) a pragmatist. Sure, Sharpton, Jackson and others are too. Even Cosby is, but in a different way. I know that MLK Jr. has been glorified, and almost deified over time, but what I've seen of his work and his words tells me he was smart enough to realize that violence was not the answer, and that sitting back and waiting for the government to give you anything wasn't going to get Black citizens of the U.S. far at all. True, he may have looked for reparations, and certainly had reason to be suspect of the government and Democracy (at least U.S. style) in general, given the history he lived through, and had known from others that lived before him.

MLK Jr. came along at a historical time, and helped to propel historic change. Not small change, but ground breaking, Earth shaking change. He helped drag a lot of ignorant individuals into an era of respecting the civil rights of all U.S. citizens, and not just those of the right color. There are plenty of reasons that King, Jackson, Sharpton and others could hold those past events and past hatred against many in the U.S., but some (such as Cosby) have moved well past all of that, and have realized that things won't get better between the races until those issues aren't used as a wedge between them.


The implication from some (Kanye West as an example, Michael Moore and friends as others) are that Bush hates poor people, hates Black people, and other minorities. I'd like to see documented proof of such claims. Hard examples. Show me where Bush has ever openly demonstrated racism, or been against the advancement of anyone that works in this country. It may be there, but I'd like to see documented examples, and not just blustery statements by the likes of BenUser, Kanye West, C.O.L. Gene, John Kerry, Hillary Clinton and others that bang such drums because they believe it's what people want to hear.
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I'll get back to you on this, but in the meantime would you kindly point me to any "blustery statements and accusations" I made.


Yea right. Like all the other failed promises of you and your ilk?
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I think King would be holding up corporations and demanding reparations and doing all the stuff we despise the modern quasi-civil rights movement for. So, sure, he would be in opposition of Bush, and most of us as well.


Oh, I'd say one more thing here -- we can't know what King would have moved on to. Sadly, he was killed before he got the chance to. Maybe he would have moved towards larger boycotts of businesses, and other such 'greenmail' of corporate U.S.A., but it's possible he wouldn't have. I don't want to give him more credit than he is due, but he was not a stupid man. Far from it. He was wise behind his years in many ways, and he saw through a lot of crap that many others didn't, at least well enough to effect the change that he is certainly to be credited with.

That's part of why I don't believe he'd have been like Jesse Jackson or Sharpton. I think he would have been more like Kwesi Mfume, and would have recognized that the current NAACP and it's incestuous relationship with the Democratic party has been a horrible thing for Blacks in the U.S.A. Jackson and Sharpton and others like them continue to abuse that relationship for their own gain, while some (like Mfume) have looked past the old benefits and actively questioned what that partnership has resulted in lately?
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Call it a pre-emptive strike against the generic "Bush hates all black people" type messages that most would anticipate, and which some have made.


If you can show me any statement I've personally ever made around here that even remotely resembles that...that would be great. If not, I'd appreciate you attributing that statement to the one single person I've heard say it...Kanye West.
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Ok, that is a good point. Where can I shit on your mothers funeral?


You are definitely one classless individual to make a statement like that.

What's the matter buddy....too much pent up rage against your mean, spiteful, dumb boss? Need to do another "rant" to get it out?

Yea right. Like all the other failed promises of you and your ilk?


What promises are you referring to? And what is my "ilk"? All the people who are not your mental equal?

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What part of some have made seems incomprehensible? And where do you see me saying that you've personally made such statements?
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"Oh, I'd say one more thing here -- we can't know what King would have moved on to. "


We can guess based upon what he said, though, and if you follow that link you'll find he said a lot.

"No amount of gold could provide an adequate compensation for the exploitation and humiliation of the Negro in America down through the centuries…Yet a price can be placed on unpaid wages. The ancient common law has always provided a remedy for the appropriation of a the labor of one human being by another. This law should be made to apply for American Negroes. The payment should be in the form of a massive program by the government of special, compensatory measures which could be regarded as a settlement in accordance with the accepted practice of common law."
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What part of some have made seems incomprehensible? And where do you see me saying that you've personally made such statements?


Since you were quoting me and that was a response to a statement I made, I thought it was directed at me personally....my apologies.
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Ok, that is a good point. Where can I shit on your mothers funeral?


You are definitely one classless individual to make a statement like that.


Well, I don't know, davad. I suspect he was making a point: If you approve the hijacking of funerals for petty personal or political agendas, you'd best be prepared for it to happen to you. "Shit on" being a way of describing what those self-indulgent windbags did to Mrs. King's funeral, to their lasting shame.
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I don't doubt he was attempting to make a point, I just think it was an unnecessarily hostile and trashy way to do it. Perhaps I'm just too "old school" and don't appreciate bringing people's mothers into arguments where it has no place. In addition, I think even in an online forum, people shouldn't say things to people that they wouldn't also say directly to their face.
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You are definitely one classless individual to make a statement like that.


The classless was not by me. Better recheck your history.


What promises are you referring to? And what is my "ilk"? All the people who are not your mental equal?


Best yoou read the thread. Then talk to me. Maybe you might even get an education.
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The classless was not by me. Better recheck your history.


In the time I've been around here, you are definitely the only one who has spoken of shitting on a user's mother's funeral.

What promises are you referring to? And what is my "ilk"? All the people who are not your mental equal?

Best yoou read the thread. Then talk to me. Maybe you might even get an education.


As usual, you respond with no substance and more rhetoric. Surprise, surprise.

The difference between you and me is this...I don't "think" I'm the smartest guy in the room everywhere I go. I'm definitely not. Maybe that's why I lead a happy life and you seem to be boiling with anger, resentment, and envy. Is it because being the smartest guy in the room has gotten you nowhere in life, or because nobody realizes you are?

An education from you? There's not much I can respond to that with, other than laughter. I'll have to pass on that one.

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The difference between you and me is this...I don't "think" I'm the smartest guy in the room everywhere I go. I'm definitely not. Maybe that's why I lead a happy life and you seem to be boiling with anger, resentment, and envy. Is it because being the smartest guy in the room has gotten you nowhere in life, or because nobody realizes you are?

I love people that assume.  For then they show the first and last sylables to be true.