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February 22, 2008 11:07:30 AM from JoeUser ForumsJoeUser Forums

OBAMA: I do not want two classes of citizens in this country.

Oh really Obama?  So everyone will be equal at the hands of the government then?

Obama: They (U.S. Soldiers) were actually capturing Taliban weapons, because it was easier to get Taliban weapons than it was for them to get properly equipped by our current commander in chief.

Wow.  Any proof of this Obama?  This is quite a tall tale without anything to back it up.

 

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Reply #1 February 22, 2008 1:15:54 PM
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Black folks killing black folks is a hate crime perpetrated by the rich white folks who keep the black man down.

Doncha know.
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Reply #2 February 22, 2008 1:26:44 PM
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If he gets the nomination (and I still hope he does), it will be fun. Doddering McCain versus a darker version of Dan Quayle! LOL
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Reply #3 February 22, 2008 1:57:10 PM
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~Whip~

2003~ http://www.fbi.gov/filelink.html?file=/ucr/03hc.pdf 

2004~ http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2004/hctable1.htm

2005~ http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2005/table1.htm

2006~ http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2006/table1.html 

 

The rest are here: http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/ucr.htm

While it doesnt look like it's been "skyrocketing," (And I guess that might depend on perception. ) it certainly has been increasing somewhat steadily.

 

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Reply #4 February 22, 2008 1:58:53 PM
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OMG, I just did research and brought out evidence.

:falls over in shock:

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Reply #5 February 22, 2008 8:32:41 PM
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From ElindelWolf's evidence:

Total incidents 2003 = 7489
Total incidents 2006 = 7720

Increase in incidents per year between 2003 and 2006 = 58

Percentage increase in incidents per year = 0.77%

This is what Obama calls "skyrocketing"? What ElindelWolf calls "steadily increasing"?

Remember, these raw numbers are to be placed in the context of a population of some 300 million souls. That represents an increase of one incident per year per 5 million in population.

Remember, too, that society itself qualifies as a victim under the Hate Crimes law. We live in Wonderland, folks. The numbers don't lie, but politicians sure do.
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Reply #6 February 22, 2008 9:45:10 PM
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I'd say it's more like a slight increase in prosecutors choosing to use the hate crime statutes to boost their conviction rates.
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Reply #7 February 23, 2008 8:24:20 AM
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Has anyone seen the media call out Obama on this BS?

 

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Reply #8 February 23, 2008 10:22:56 AM
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Looks like Fox News is starting to pick up on it.

 

http://youdecide08.foxnews.com/2008/02/22/military-questions-obamas-claim-that-under-equipped-troops-used-taliban-weapons/

 

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Reply #9 February 23, 2008 11:32:20 AM
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Need to revise my figures slightly (had wrong denominator):

Increase in incidents per year between 2003 and 2006 = 77

Percentage increase in incidents per year = 1.0%

No significant difference, but needed to correct the mistake.
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Reply #10 February 23, 2008 6:53:02 PM
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OBAMA: I do not want two classes of citizens in this country.


Here is where he sounds like John Edwards and the "two" Americas BS.  I'm sure President Obama will make everyone be equal!
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Reply #11 February 24, 2008 3:06:07 AM
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Has anyone seen the media call out Obama on this BS?


Actually, it appears that Obama's story is true. This guy actually talked to the Army captain that Obama was referring to and he confirmed that he did in fact tell Obama those things.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/from-the-fact-3.html
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Reply #12 February 24, 2008 7:19:59 AM
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He told me his story, which I found quite credible, though for obvious reasons he asked that I not mention his name or certain identifying information.


Sorry, but I need real "proof", not an anonymous person telling a story to Obama and ABC "news".  Nothing has confirmed Barack Hussein Obamas story. 

Oh, and does anybody know of Obamas voting record when it comes to funding the troops?




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Reply #13 February 24, 2008 9:15:44 PM
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Sorry, but I need real "proof", not an anonymous person telling a story to Obama and ABC "news". Nothing has confirmed Barack Hussein Obamas story.


Do you seriously doubt that there is an Army captain who would say this? Do you think that there aren't officers who have served there that have issues with the way things were/are done?

It's really that hard for you to believe?

How about what another soldier had to say;

As Sgt. Erick Gallardo put it: “We don’t get supplies, assets. We scrounge for everything and live a lot more rugged. But we know the war is here. We got unfinished business.”

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Reply #14 February 24, 2008 9:41:43 PM
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Do you seriously doubt that there is an Army captain who would say this? Do you think that there aren't officers who have served there that have issues with the way things were/are done?


That's hardly the point, davad70. Never mind the veracity of the story, it's the issues the story raises that matter. Does that have a certain ring to it? What passes for "reporting" now is pretty sad stuff.
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Reply #15 February 25, 2008 6:38:02 AM
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Do you seriously doubt that there is an Army captain who would say this? Do you think that there aren't officers who have served there that have issues with the way things were/are done?


Considering places like the NYT's have "featured" fake soldiers before, so there is no reason to take these people at their word especially when it comes from "anonymous" sources.  The liberal media has proven it will lie to push their agenda.

I'm sure there are some troubles with equipment, but Hussein Obama makes it sound like all the troops have no equipment.  Once again, what is Obama's record on funding the troops?




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Reply #16 February 25, 2008 7:21:52 PM
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Where exactly did he say "all the troops have no equipment"?

As far as his record on funding the troops, look it up. Stop waiting for someone else to do it for you.
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Reply #17 February 26, 2008 9:39:04 AM
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As far as his record on funding the troops, look it up. Stop waiting for someone else to do it for you.


I already know the answer davad70. 


Where exactly did he say "all the troops have no equipment"?


I didn't say he said it, I said he made it sound like it.......


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