[quote who="Lord Xia" reply="174" id="2865287"]You are not entilled to anything, enoeraw37. If Jon can and wants to talk about that old stuff, that's his prerogative, but is not obligated to do so for your sense of well being. I think this hatred for him and CiV5 has really gone beyond what a truly open dialogue could accomplish, I don't think you or others like you would be satisfied until he gave you a pound of flesh. I think the best move for everyone is to look toward th
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[quote who="scratchthepitch" reply="153" id="2864300"] Quoting Nesrie, reply 151 Well I am taking issue with your use of the word competent. I think it unnecessarily divides the gaming community, and it has nothing to do with anything. People play the difficulty level that provides them the most entertainment value. That's not always based on skill. As for Civ IV, it's the only game that I can say I played for 5 years straight and thoroughly enjoyed. I certainly do
[quote who="scratchthepitch" reply="150" id="2864282"] I didn't say the game wasn't fun for those who like it. Nor did I claim it wasn't popular. One could say that about most games that develop a following. Even MOO3 had a loyal following, albeit a rather small following. What I did say was I didn't care for it. And what I'm really tired of seeing is that very mediocre game being put on some sort of sacred pedestal and people claiming it was God's gift to computer gaming.<b
[quote who="scratchthepitch" reply="148" id="2864192"] No good at all. Neither inadequate AI or cheesey dumbed down game mechanics are any good. And neither is better as far as I am concerned. The Problem with Civ is it's always had crap AI, Civ5 isn't the first to have it. It was crap in Civ4, and also wasn't able to handle combat very well, even though there was a whole lot less for the AI to do, it just did a little better. But as tetleytea just posted, the AI was no
[quote who="ZehDon" reply="66" id="2864143"]First leaked image can be seen here. It's scanned, but it's damn impressive. Faces have come a long way from Oblivion! First, offical details can be seen here, are below: [list]... [/quote] Kids as in player's kids or kids in the world?
[quote who=" scratchthepitch " reply="139" id="2864033"] What good is a slightly better AI if in order to get it, they cheese the game. [/quote] All right then what good is better combat if the AI can't do it? A game like Civ has to have an AI that can competently handle all the mechanics, battle being a pretty big one.
[quote who="MichaelCook" reply="172" id="2864021"] Quoting BlueInstinct, reply 170 I think the main problem with all that 'we have to stop the piracy' lies in a big bad missunderstanding. just because i pirated a given game or music, that really doesnot mean i would have bought it in the first place so in this logical sense, i never stole something, since the company didnot lost anything. but, sometimes, a company i would have never
[quote who="scratchthepitch" reply="136" id="2864020"] Quoting Nesrie, reply 130 In IV there was a lot of talk about stacks of doom, and maybe some complaints, but you know what, those stacks of doom were awfully efficient. The AI also got to go first every freaking turn which pretty much garaunteed them some victories. It amazes me that someone could praise the way combat worked in Civ4 or that they would think the stack of doom
[quote who="Rasael" reply="132" id="2863976"] Have fun on the Job! (I also suspect you will quickly grow a thick skin on these forums, like the other developers) [/quote] Pretty much like anyone in any business... developers aren't special in needing to deal with angry customers after all. Jon is welcome here; he knows that without your overgeneralized rant. The thread welcoming him is actually another thread though that Frog started, n
[quote who="tetleytea" reply="129" id="2863922"]Civ V took this sort of feedback and made a sequel attempting to digest all this input. It may not have done very well with it, but I probably would have made all the very same mistakes they did. It's okay to fail sometimes. The real question is, are you still in the game? Jon is, and he's at Stardock now. Good luck, and I'm pulling for you. Not saying I'll buy your game, but I'm pulling for you. [/
[quote who="ElanaAhova" reply="164" id="2863535"]OMG, I thought this was about sid meier's pirate game... ouch, did i make a wrong turn! [/quote] Fun game. I keep hoping for a 2nd one that isn't just a remake but a sequel with more... stuff.
[quote who="Thormodr" reply="125" id="2863343"] True but bad judgments calls are usually signaled out, either by the person themselves, their peers or outside persons. This seems to be the only industry on the planet that claims anyone who tries to attribute responsibility to them is a troll and offensive. It's ridiculous really. Still, there is no way to blame him specifically for things, but i think's perfectly fair for those who dislike Civ V, which is not a small number, to be skepti
[quote who="PaxTerminus" reply="117" id="2863152"]Everybody makes bad professional decisions from time to time. Some - like the banking industry with those mortgage-backed securities - make disasterous decisions that destroy lifes of millions... Most of us don't do anything important enough for the world to know things we did wrong. That does not mean somebody is a bad professional. They made a bad judgement call, or had a boss that made a bad judgement call. They were de
Well when you are hanging off a cliff in the other direction, I am not sure a step in the right direction is really worth celebrating. We need a few leaps and bounds from this company.
[quote who="Lonemessiah" reply="71" id="2862283"]I am beginning to feel that hiring Jon was a bad thing. Not because of CIV 5 (I actually quite enjoyed it, and will go back to enjoying it when i have the time). But because it seems that the forums of Elemental are now full of the sort of people that the 2k forums were full of. Maybe one day we'll all understand the opinion is not fact, no matter how strong that opinion is. 'Jon Shafer was in charge of a team that made ba
I'm all for Stardock trying to fix their unfinished game, and while I was severely disappointed with Civ V, I know there were a lot of great ideas behind it; I hope Jon was a part of.
[quote who="Kestral2040" reply="153" id="2861556"] Quoting tetleytea , reply 138 I am right here, I can speak for myself. You've got a company that is hiring and firing, almost simultaneously. That is an interesting event. And try picturing yourself as one of those laid off people witnessing this sometime. Unless these laid off staff were serious underperformers , most people
[quote who="Valkrionn" reply="193" id="2861243"] Quoting Nesrie, reply 183 I am just curious, if you can't blame the people who worked on a game, and you can't blame the publisher who publishes a game, who exactly can should you blame for a bad game? I don't think one person is responsible for Civ V's current status amongst many strategy fans anymore than I think only one person is responsible for Elemental's disastrous release. I am beginning to w
I am just curious, if you can't blame the people who worked on a game, and you can't blame the publisher who publishes a game, who exactly can should you blame for a bad game? I don't think one person is responsible for Civ V's current status amongst many strategy fans anymore than I think only one person is responsible for Elemental's disastrous release. I am beginning to wonder though where exactly blame can be assigned. Hey
[quote who="Jon Shafer" reply="57" id="2860522"] ... To those who have extended a warm welcome, you have my thanks! For those skeptical of me coming aboard, I hope to win you over in time. I can promise you I'll do my best. ... Jon [/quote] A note of positivity for those with open arms and a warm greeting to those who are not so welcoming, I like him already and hope that tone will be seen more often from Stardock.
[quote who=" kenata " reply="160" id="2861130"] I will say that i only treat you like I would expect to be treated if I was a crock Wow! This is the most insane perversion of the golden rule I have ever heard. Let me take a moment to spell it out for those who may not completely see how amazingly insane this is. Firstly, downloading copyrighted materials does not make one "a crook". So to say that you would treat someone who you do not actua
[quote who="TheDarkKnight2008" reply="154" id="2860318"] It was spahgettimon that said that he buys items when he has money, when he didn't he pirated. Nice job trying to formulate an argument when you can't read. [/quote] Your word use clearly indicates a plurality, but thank you for demonstrating, again, you don't know a thing about the golden rule you play lip service to.
[quote who="TheDarkKnight2008" reply="141" id="2859451"]I do find it funny that people who are jumping on my golden rule blurb are basing their entire arguments on NEEDING MONEY JUST TO HAVE MORALS. So if you have money, you buy things, if you don't then you suddenly have the rights to take what you want? And as far as the golden rule is concerned, if someone broke into your house and stole things they would be different in your eyes then what you do. You make excuses f
[quote who="TheDarkKnight2008" reply="119" id="2859071"] For the record, I believe in the golden rule. [/quote] You might claim to believe in the golden rule, but you don't practice it, at least not on these forums. If someone disagrees with you, you pretty much go ape-shit, start foaming at the mouth and go on a rant about what a closet genuis you are and how some strange society of liberals is out to get you.
[quote who="scratchthepitch" reply="84" id="2858466"] Your statement that the poor are least affected by inflation is one of the most stupid things I've come across relating to economics (and that includes speeches from Sarah Palin, btw). Do you think about what you write, or just type whatever fluff that pops into your head? [/quote] That's completely uncalled for. Faded already admitted he made a mistake which is more than what most people would do in