Nitro Cruiser I am aware of the problems with China but keeping them imprisoned even if it is in a communal area (which surely is a euphemism) isn't the solution, why not granting them status as refugees then? Is it because China would protest against such a decision?
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they are less dangerous I guess? And you know what, I don't really care how you treat the guilty guys, but I do care a lot about how you treat those who might be innocent or the guys where it is already clear that they are innocent but which are kept because of political reasons like those uyghurs (was pretty obvious you ignore the rest of my post though ;-)
handling them as POW (with all the rights you have as POW) would be okay - at least for those where it is likely they have been fightning, not for those the us army bought from bounty hunters telling them they are terrorists. Considering children as POW is also something I strongely oppose.
I guess you aren't comfortable with having other dangerous criminals (Timothy McVeigh, Charles Manson) being represented in public court as well then? Not even mentioning that many of the prisoners there are only because some bounty hunters sold them as "terrorists". (all those Uyghurs for example, even your own Government already admitted that they are innocent) I am not saying that there aren't many very dangerous people there but the USA should be able to take ca
yes they are white of course (what else?) and even if not it totally wouldn't matter. What do you mean with that noble europe? They are member of the EU just as we are. The only reason I picked the 5 countries I did was because they are roughly economically comparable to the USA and are about the same size as the USA (you know comparing apples with apples). We can include Poland but then we must include Mexico as well. remember the EU is nothing like the USA we are all countries on our own no
so UK is stil a feudalist state, must have missed that.
so wealth comes on the expense of letting children die? Why are the death ratios in countries even poorer than those are higher? Shouldn't they be lower as well then? just because the USA are richer doesn't mean they are better in any single department (an I admit mabye bit far stretched example would be your automobile industry. Ford, GM and Crysler all needing governmental help, which maybe won't even be enough in the long run)
[quote] And of course that makes no difference either. Right? Did you try to do the math? [/quote] Could you please eloberate what you mean with doing my math? Your said that I was bigot because I didnt consider that "whites" would be illegal immigrants in the USA as well. 6Percent are not really much, sure there are some but 6% is a rather low number. [quote] Now let's compare the rates to the Eastern Europeans as well as your noble 6 little countries.
what are you attacking me on? I never said that minimum wages are good, just that they certainly aren't free market so the absence of them is free market. Okay you might have another opinion on Anti-Trust laws then me but I mostly mentioned it because having no anti-trust laws is very free market in the original idea of Adam Smith. Legal Worker Unions aren't too encouraged by Smith either as he disliked the Idea that groups of employees can dictate the wages
[quote]This ideal of rich people exploiting the masses is as outdated as is the author. WHat most dont understand is that Karl Marx had no conception of Capitalism (how could he? he never saw it, just Feudalism and socialism), and therefore badly missed the boat.[/quote] I totally agree that the idea of rich people exploiting the masses is outdated in democracies. However that doesn't make your statement true that Marx only
Little nation states? England+France+Italy+Spain+Germany is 60+60+60+45+80 Million thats is 305 Million people. So no comparing those with the USA isn't like comparing luxembourg to the USA which indeed is very silly. (also using luxembourg which is largely a bunch of banks making their money of tax evaders to prove socialism is very strange) the 5,7 per 1000 is the rate for whites (I was so nice to exclude the hispanics when you asked for "of european descent"
maudlin27 one example of how to prevent obesity is the food children get at lunch in school. That is not banning anything as the children are free to bring their own lunch yet it can have a very good effect on the health of children. And as Schools are government owned (and should be according to Adam Smith) there is nothing wrong about the government deciding what there is at lunch at they are the owners. Sport in school is another important factor preventing obesity, teaching children how t
I was refering to that "After all, he is black - no experience or accomplishments - but he is black." Sorry If I wasn't clear enough about that, never meant to attack you, because you indeed didn't wrote anything like that
[quote who="Dr Guy" reply="18" id="1928045"] read again, you spend more on the health system as all other countries do and it still is worse No, it is better. Not perfect. But perfection is not attainable, and going backwards is not going to get you closer to it. infant mortality (death at age below 5) : 6,3 per 1.000 births for USA, 5,61 for Italia5,36 for Canada, 4,93 for UK 4,0 for germany, 3,36 for France, 2,8 for japan,(https://www.cia.gov/library/p
(response to littlewhip) now you are calling me names just because you don't have valid arguments anymore, that aside yes I am a liberal, but in the original sense of the word. I also believe that everyone is born equally so there shouldn't be any difference in the health care for children because they are at no fault for their parents. Is that socialist? You know very well that hamburgers, french fries and cake aren't outlawed here so what are you talking about
from a german perspective that would qualify as racist because it reduces Obama to being black saying he has no other qualities than being black which is not true. It also ignores the fact that blacks always vote overwhelmingly democrat; but then there might be no need to be as sensitive in the USA as we are here because you never had a arier-supremacy dictatorship.
[quote]What are the stats for Americans of European descent?[/quote] 1) So its okay for children of non-european descent to die? Shouldn't the chances for every child be the same? You are one Nation and it isn't the fault of children to be of non-european descent. 2) Other countries have lots of Immigrants or Citizen of non-european descent as well especially France. We don't exclude citizen or immigrants from our statistics just because the could spoil them.</p
calling europe socialist is total nonsense, while there are many definitions of socialism they all share the idea of state property of means of production like it was in the socialist GDR or SU (they call themselves socialist with the goal of ultimately reaching communism), name one european country where this is the case. But I wonder how you explain that, if you consider europe a socialist bunch of countries and you are very scared of socialism because it destroys the econ
infant mortality (death at age below 5) : 6,3 per 1.000 births for USA, 5,61 for Italia5,36 for Canada, 4,93 for UK 4,0 for germany, 3,36 for France, 2,8 for japan,(https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2091rank.html) - WHO even has a number of 8 per 1000 for the USA. Having a higher infant mortality than Cuba is not what I call a succesful health system. Children are not at fault for having poor parents. I don't know if you are pro-life but
read again, you spend more on the health system as all other countries do and it still is worse, I don't know your system enough to know the reasons of that maybe it is because there is no strong agent who ensures people don't get ripped of, maybe its because of trusts, maybe because of corruption or maybe because there is not enough money put in prevention which is cheaper than having ill workers. We are talking about 1 Trillion Dollar which the health system costs m
its quite interesting that aside from all the statistical oversimplifications (not accounting for the fact that young people usually earn less just because they are still at college university yet etc.) Obama would have won as well if you exclude all the below 30K voters.
you aren't seriously telling me that europe is socialist?
My parents lived in a communist marxist country (German democratic republic) and my brothers and me partly grew up in it so we experienced socialism first hand. Now we live in a capitalist country called federal republic of germany which is basically a Social market economy and calling Obama and Marxist is about as accurate as calling Angela Merkel an Marxist. USA isn't a pure&nbs
CharlesCS, I live in germany and being different just for the sake of being different isn't smart. I mean do you really consider it good that the USA spends 15,6% of their GDP on a health care system which doesn't seem to work as good as cheaper healthcare systems.
looking at this statistic http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/46/2/38980580.pdf, I concur that countries with universal health care (and with a higher life expectancy) don't necessarily have to spend more than countries where only part of the people are insured. 6700$ spending per capita ppp is an insane value compared to 3300$ for germany and 2300$ for Japan, the most geriatric of all big countries (USA has a pretty good population pyramid still so its even more shockin