To be perfectly blunt KFC/Lula, all I get from you guys when you're asked a question is repetitive rhetoric. It's like listening to a monotonous droning from a collective. Yes, you're entitled to believe whatever fancies you, but to say: [quote]There is only one truth...Christ is the Way, the Truth and the life.[/quote] Where is the logic? Where is the fact? Where is the solid proof? You say the Bible, but yet most of it must be taken on faith, not fact. You can't prove that th
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[quote]That is just assinine. Communism is not an attempt at perfection any more than Capitalism is. They are systems of existance based upon an economic model.[/quote] Actually it is, think about it Doc. Perfection isn't absolute, and many of those who supported Communism saw it as the perfect way. According to them, according to the very theory it would be a balance. All the workers would have jobs, no shortages, etc... Granted, no civil rights (or very little), but then just go back
~AD~ No...I don't want to get high (<--correct spelling :-P ) either. I detest drugs (illegal ones).
Also, while, like I said, Communism won't work, I mean it as it won't work purely. I find it to be a noble attempt at helping workers, albeit never carried out the best way. Essentially the intentions are good, but the execution stunk to high heaven. I believe that implementing bits and pieces of it along with other systems (capitalism, etc...) can help strengthen the economy. We've seen that pure capitalism or other systems are either not the best, or don't work at all. Example, our
[quote]No, I am saying that communism is an attempt, naively so, at perfection. You can't get perfection in a world of...humans. THAT is what I've been trying to say. So quit trying to "observe" what you think is in there, perhaps ask me what i mean if you're unsure.Then say that. My goodness so much written and so little said.[/quote] Heh, that's what I tried to do. I admit though that often when some of the others here attack my points all at once my mind tends to unravel. :(
[quote]As far as bolstering the image of terrorist leaders amongst Arab nations, the very fact he's willing to talk to them against the policies of our nation, he is proving to them that he respects them more than the US. That's not my opinion, that is just plain fact.[/quote] Eh, forgive me, but I'm more inclined to accept it as opinion, but we'll see. Who knows, there might be a miracle. And thanks, I shouldnt have, but it happened. I got over it and am good now.
[quote]Well, ParaTed2K, we'd only be in prison because George Bush would have us tossed in some secret holding facility without trial because he believes we're a terrible threat to him or because we disagree with his policies. You're right--he'd have a tough time pulling a Jose Padilla on Jimmy Carter.Admit it, if it was George Bush doing this during a future administration, you'd be calling for his head.. and so would I.Actually, you may wish to examine the Constitution a little more closely; w
Addendum: If Communism is "perfection," or at least what Marx said, then the Russians were never a true communism, because the failed at it.
[quote]That's exactly my point, they could never have been communism, because (like you said), they failed. That's what I'm trying to get DrG to realize. (And I think i actually meant lenin, unless im mistaken).They failed because man is imperfect and all creations of man are not perfect. We are not a perfect republic (we are not a democracy), nor was Russia a perfect communism. But it was the imperfect version of it. Just because an orange is not perfect does nto make it not an orange. You
[quote]That was my point. No-one else has solutions to the problem but you are quick to condemn any efforts at resolving the problem.Who is better off at trying? Carter may well fail but please tell me who your new peacemaker is!But he's not being a peacemaker, he is bolstering the image of terrorists while undermining the sitting US government. It is unprofessional, foolish, Unconstitutional and could even be illegal.Even though I don't think much of his administration, I think he's done a lot
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[quote]You are too young to understand how your school is messing with your mind while re-writing history to suit their current views. Back when the Soviet Union was still solvent they touted the miracle of communism, we capitalists were wrong and all would be right with the world if we only allowed communism to work. Then when they went bankrupt the story changed to if they only had enough money they would have built a utopian model for us to follow. Now they are not communist because they fail
[quote]Stalin was crazy, but he was no communistI love it when liberals start equivocating about the heros of their philosophy!As for the day, I dont observe it. I am one of those dastardly conservatives that wants poluted water, and dirty air, and temperatures in the 80s in January.At least that is what they tell me while the burn thousands of gallons of carbon fuel jetting their way around the world to their tea parties.[/quote] First off, oops, I meant Lenin, obviously. Secondly, Du
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[quote]DudeYes?[/quote] Uhh, hi. :p Oh, and... Bueller...Bueller? (Love that movie)
[quote]I think Carter is a good diplomat, and humanitarian, and my thought is, "Hell, why not?"So do you think Carter going to Hamas instead of Israel (to which Carter is biased AGAINST) was a brilliant diplomatic approach to this scenario? I'm sure Israel does *sarcasm*!Brilliant in an anti semetic, love thy palistian terrorist sort of way.[/quote] No, so quit trying to put up a straw man.
[quote] Thus spawned the environMENTAL movement, similar to a bowel movement only evacuating the mind instead of a lower area of the body. So what have we gained from 38 years of screaming that we need to save the planet, that we should think globally but act locally and other pithy phrases? [/quote] Well, with people that won't do what is needed (common freaking sense), on both sides, nothing at all. A
[quote]"Hell, why not?"Because it's not his part and he would have cried in his peanut butter if anyone pulled this kind of unprofessional crap when he was president. If I was president, I'd have his passport yanked and let him rot with the vermin he chooses to sleep with. Sure, Carter has the "right" to go talk to anyone he wishes, but the state department can yank a passport from anyone too, as long as they have probable cause... and a case can be easily made here that Carter is breaking a f
[quote]I think Carter is a good diplomat, and humanitarian, and my thought is, "Hell, why not?"So do you think Carter going to Hamas instead of Israel (to which Carter is biased AGAINST) was a brilliant diplomatic approach to this scenario? I'm sure Israel does *sarcasm*![/quote] Brilliant, no, a different route, sure. If neither are willing to approach the table, then sometimes it begs to try one or the other of the parties. I don't know what Carter's motivation is though.
[quote]YOu really have a reading comprehension problem. You are making the ASSumptions as you call it. SO ASSume your way away. I made a statement of observation, and fact. Are you now denying you call yourself a liberal? Get real! And dump the potty mouth. That does not make you look intelligent, nor advance what feeble argument you have. YOU said you were a liberal, not me. I took you at your word. So are you lying? Shall we call you a liar? Another trait I HAVE OBSERVED of l
[quote]How do you KNOW he is speaking for the US? From what I have read, he's talking to them, period. Just talking, seeing if there is anything that can be done. You'd be amazed what the right person can do while man others have failed at the same thing.By talking to them he is acknowledging that their claim to authority. By undermining the sitting president Carter is telling them that he resects them more than he respects the United States.Arab culture is all about authority. Authority is re
[quote]You have nothing to stand on. Again, a typical liberal trait is to assign intent to people, without intimate knowledge of the person. You dont know me, and therefore do not know anything about my intent. Yet your whole premise is based upon your assumption (that ass word) of my intent, which is totally false. In otherwords, give it up. This thread is ended. Either laugh at it, say it is in poor taste or ignore it. Any further discussion on your perception of my intent can be made
Alright Dude, but it's your funeral. Just trying to help you out with some advice.
Dude, i'm sure you've been informed that your constant flow of.....articles, are not really welcome. Quality over quantity, that's the deal. Trust me, I've done the same thing, and so I learned patience, among other thigns. You sound like you want to be a part of this community, right? So try tp keep it in mind. From a guy who's "been there, done that," ~L