All resource starbases are upgraded (no weapons or defense though). I am now building my version of the "Mumblfratz starbase net" of econ starbases around my manufact and tech capitals, as well as major ship building planets. Using econ starbases for range extend, I am searching the galaxy for the Dread Lord homeworld... So far I am #1 econ, medium - tech, influ, population and last in military. I am "close" with my neighbors, Arceans and Icons.
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Also, once I destroyed the starport on invasion (love mass drivers!!!) and when I bought a new starport the build credit was still there !!!!!!! Oh the joys of conquering the galaxy...
Mumblefranz explain is correct...and it has been like this since ver 1.0 I always check the starports on conquered planets by putting different size ships in the build to calc the amount of "credit" available. No cheese here, just a perk of conquest !!!!!
Thanks to Moosetek and Uhlek. I can't wait to get back to my game tonight... StarBase building time ...more fun than legos!!!!!
@Ambassador Drengin Most of the cheese is from the post titled "Cheese and Cheats" (in the Game Talk forum) A few others I found in replys in other threads.
The unarmed defender strat is not really cheese, but I like it... Very clever indeed.
I know there are many MOO2 vets on this forum... What do you think of Carriers ???? At least in MOO2, I thought the they were very weak and I almost never used them.
I have not yet used the "Evil Storm Defennse Plan"... But I intent to employ this at higher levels to help offset the AI advantages... (If there are any late entry Cheese ideas ...Feel free to add them here, hehehehe)
And the Third place - "Not yet cheese, but sure to please" Goes to - Evil Storm for the unarmed, defenseless defender ships !!!!! Thanks to all for all the help..."it ain't easy being cheesy"
OP has some sp issues, sorry!!! Second place cheese goes to Kblore for the Repair/upgrade and planet grav assist strat. These I already use...
The top game Cheese srat goes to Elwood011 for his "start game/SAVE. Then scout out galaxy for +PQ planets ans resoures... Then reload StartSave and "Out rush" the AI. I am up to Tuff lvl, but I plan to use this VEELVETA cheeze as I try higher levels.
My game is - Tough, Gigantic - Dread Lords scenario ... I am warm, friendly with Arcs, Icons, Torians, Korx and 4 minors. (only Neut with Alt-terrans @#%$$#) And I am Terran of course ...
I agrre with the OP, I won as Dreng by taking out the Torians and geting Ally with Yor ASAP!!! I fought many wars (even a Fundamental rebellion) but I did find the psion beam and missle techs usefull to defeat the stubborn Arceans and Korx.
I have a good econ - medium tech and influ - and last in military. I grabbed 3 econ, 2 military and 1 infu and tech resource starbases total. I have 3 "defenders" on each planet and a great network of spyships. I have a couple of tiny fighter fleets and have now just switched my shipyards to constructor builds... My question to the vets is which starbases to upgrade first ?????? (I can build one or two constructors per turn) Any help is welcome ...I will probably pla
Not necessary to turn off tech trading, just don't exploit this cheese tactic if you do not like how it feels. There are tons of cheezy strats that seem almost like cheating...I am with you on this one, but I use other cheeze tactics that another player may think is cheating...but it is a GOOD thing about this game that each player can use tactics they like. I may need this trick at higher levels so I am glad it is there, even if I don't use it yet...
Yes, you can GIFT planets... Hey more great stuff, I got from other threads on these forums: Planet defender ships with no weapons/maintence - from Evil Stormbringer Econ range extension starbases rather than Influ or Military types because the AI ignores them better - from Kblore
Yeah, its a great strat, I JUST can't do it yet...love the gun on there. I am trying to work my way up thru the diff levels (Tough now). I plan to implement the "EVIL STORM" defense plan as soon as needed. Thanks for the tip.
My first military ships are planet defenders (tiny,1 laser, no defense/engines). As a matter of fact it has always been my only Defender-type ship. Except in one game as Dreng in an all-out brawl war with the Arcs, I got nervous and upgraded them with +weapons and defenses. I never really need them, as my feets wiped out the Arcs when I got psi-beam/missle.\ So my question is, has anyone ever upgraded "Defenders"???
In a recent Tough game my frigate sized ships (terran) were no match for the Dreng fleets. Following advice I got from these forums, I built fleets of small hull boats with only weapons, no defense and was able to swarm the Dreng fleets. I took some losses but the small ships were easier to relace than larger capital type ships. (and cheaper too). I love to build large BattleCruisers, loaded with weapons and defenses, decked out with jewlery pieces...Visually impressive !!!! But sometimes yo
Starbases ARE way too PUNY -YES - but... The Resource bases should be grabbed, even if just to deny them to the AI. The Econ type with or without a resource should be built around your manufact capital, homeworld and any major shipbuild planets. Add the trade+ and prod+ modules. Don't bother with weapons/defense. Keep constructors in your Fleet Battle Groups to grab free resource bases and to extend ship range if needed. I have built full-decked out starbases in games,
TOTAL CHEESE ... and beyond Small attack ships worked great!!!(thanks Mumblefratz) Swarmed the dreng planets and even drove his fleets clear of the liberated sectors. Only had to "Re-Invade" one planet and once I fought a few "sample fleet battles" and figured out how many ships I needed, THen I re-loaded a save game and fought straight thru their fleets. EVEN had some good GAME CHEEZE - The DReng found a nice Precourser Ranger and I foung a load of Precurser Corvettes, It was great to
The AI likes cheese too!!!!!!!!!!! The Dreng have what looks like a fleet with 2 transports and a couple of escorts... When I click on the fleet - It is actually many fleets (7 total) STACKED on the same parsec !!!! This seems like an attempt to HIDE their fleets from my view. VERY DEVIOUS...those EVIL Drengs. Well, no matter thier days are numbered. @JanuHull - Yes, I have max soldier techs, plenty of transports, and intend to take thier planets intact!!!!!
Good one Kryo !!!!
Cheezey Update Dreng Battle fleet attempted to attack one of my unarmed econ starbases. I used my beyond cheese "fight the battle multi times and see what works best" and was forced to settle for a loss of three FLEETS to defeat the Dreng one. They have made no other offinsive moves and my Torpedo Boat fleets are moving into place to attack !!!! (Transport fleets are following closely...hope this doesn't upset the near-by Arceans too much)
It is not really nit-picky. I don't play as the Yor because the whole entertain line of buildings just DOES NOT FIT. How do you amuse a ROBOT??? I always felt that line of buildings for the Yor should be something like Program Update Center, Advanced Update Hall, or some such things...maybe I will give modding a try with this to make them Yor feel more realistic...???