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[quote]I was born in whittier and lived in compton and pomona, Ive lived the poverty first hand. I watched as welfare moms drove mercedes while my mom refused Welfare and worked 2 jobs to support me, driving an old buick. Those on welfare had better medical and dental than I had with my mom working 2 jobs. So I speak from experience and do not feel Obliged to pander to those who CAN work and refuse. I realize there are people out there who CAN NOT work *Disabled* etc. But this does not exoner

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[quote]Cityguy....I just love it when people use selected scriptures to try and prove their point but don't use all of the scriptures. Acts 2-4 says nothing about being told to give. They were all of one mind, body and spirit and agreed amongst themselves to share their belongings. Notice they were sharing amongst themselves only, not with the outside world. And.....nobody was forcing their hand. It was of their own accord.[/quote] Great point. Thanks for bringing up the differen

Reply to We've witnessed history. in History JoeUser Forums

[quote]No, it isn't. I didn't see a single news outlet, American or otherwise, write about the new president-elect without mentioning his skin colour. A major step moving past those petty thoughts would have been if either candidate had won and their skin colour wouldn't have mattered to the voters or the media.[/quote] Again, if you get why this is historic, you know nothing about the history of our nation. The president has always been a white guy. Black people

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[quote]Many believe that taxes are supposed to pay for government services we all use and which cannot or many not be provided by private enterprise. Any other use of taxation is regarded as legalised theft.[/quote] So then taxes should'nt pay for local education? That's theft? You arguement is not very well thought through.

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[quote]Not to support able bodied citizens who refuse to work for a living.[/quote] I wish conservative would really start to thing for themselves. No one is trying to enable the lazy. That has really become a brainless robotic response to people who try help the less fotunate. Making healthcare affordable for millions of Americans who can't afford it is not supporting lazy people. I work with the working poor almost everyday. I see people work hard to make ends meet, and have risky p

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[quote]Giving your money (which I support and do) is differnet from having it stolen from you and given to another who didn't work for it.[/quote] Sure. Where was money stolen? Or do you believe that taxes are a form a theft. Is that what you mean?

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[quote]So now does that mean people can stop complaining that "the man" is holding them back?[/quote] At least now 'the man' is not the president.

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[quote]I don't think being black is anything special and don't care which skin colour someone has. So I don't see the significance of an event that is neither remarkable nor surprising.[/quote] You should find it remarkable because it's never happened before. It's not about color, it's about evidence of change and progress in this country.

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I think Obama has been clear that he is not a socialist. His acceptance speech made that clear. KFC, you say you have not seen Obama do one thing for this country. I saw him and others do a great deal to fight the rights of poor people on the Southside of Chicago. They ARE a part of this country. [quote]I also fear that if the Arabs believe that American support for Israel is weakening, they will attack again and try to kill all the Jews like in the old days. I am not kidding. I have s

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[quote]Obama wants half of it, to give to your neighbor, you're ok with that? [/quote] KFC, I believed you to be Christian, right? Isn't this something we see the early church doing in Acts 2-4? I don't like socialism or anything, but isn't being a Christian mean that you love your neighbor as yourself. Not love the neighbor with bootstraps as yourself.

Reply to Are we really ready for a Black President? in Current Events JoeUser Forums

[quote]Well, how many polls do you want me to link to? Or perhaps you can do your own man on the street poll. The ignorance of the slave trade is no secret. The reality is not either, but then it does require some self education and not talking about the "600 million thrown to the sharks on the journey to the new world". So you tell me - what are you looking for?[/quote] Something more substantial than what you perceive as common. Where I am from, we often parallel the journey of

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[quote]So yeah, most blacks alive in America today probably can't claim even a single great-grandparent that was held as a slave, but it's not like the Emancipation Proclamation and (a century or so later) the Civil Rights Act magically solved all their problems.[/quote] I agree with one caviat. The current reality as well as other parts of the past are simply a descendant of slavery. My dad grew up in the share cropping system of the south as a child. Each generation in my family had

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[quote]2. There are THOUSANDS of seperate LANGUAGES in africa, each one with countless different tribest and cultures using it. Many are hostile to each other, or completely differen't. It is a very ethnocentric (delicous irony) viewpoint to look at all of them as one entity called "tribes"[/quote] BTW, I wasn't referring to Black as a tribe. Please re-read what I wrote because that's not what I said.

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[quote]In a melting pot you would have a president who is most qualified and you wouldn't be say "ooh, FINALLY A BLACK PRESIDENT" you would say "OOOH, obama is such a good president... black? well yea i guess, I never paid it attention".[/quote] Yeah, true. But in a melting pot, I wouldn't hear the N-word when I go for a run in my neighborhood either. The melting took place among european cultures but has yet to really take place as strongly with cultures of color difference. We

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[quote]Explain to me exactly what is that "tribal heritage" you are celebrating...[/quote] I did already. You just aren't listening. [quote]1. Whites were in tribes too, only thousands of years ago instead of hundreds... (many are still in clans to this day)[/quote] Never denied it. In fact, in South Africa whites are usually broken up into two 'tribes', the English and the Afrikaaners. [quote]3. It is quite unlikely for a person to know WHICH tribe he descends

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[quote]As for cultural heritage... that is something you could, MAYBE take pride in, and even then not much since it is not something YOU did[/quote] My heritage HAS been made into the color of my skin. Have read the other posts? I talk about my African-American heritage and the pride that I have in that. It's not what I did, it's who I am. The basis for many depression related conditions is lack of pride in oneself. [quote]And quite frankly, the "tribal heritage" is as

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[quote]As cityguy pointed out, White Pride is viewed as 'ikky' but it's perfectly acceptable to demonstrate the pride of any other race or culture.[/quote] I think we all need to figure out what to do about that. There is a HUGE difference between white pride and white power. No race is perfect, but come on, pride is who you are is okay.

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[quote]it is apparent that not all share your thought process as they refer to all blacks as African Americans[/quote] I never said that. Some people use it to describe people of African descent who live the American life. [quote]But you still have not explained how an "italian-American" equates to an "african Americna". The former rarely used, the latter used frequnetly, but not all the time.[/quote] I spent a long time in Little Italy in Chicago. Everything the

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[quote]Yet you just excluded Nelson Mandela because he was not a member of a particular tribe. YOu are getting very confusing and contradictory. Africa is a continent. No amount of political speak will change that.[/quote] ??? You make no sense. [quote]No, that is again contradictory. I am an American. My ancestors were slaves, and slave owners. Masters and servants, peasants and kings. But I AM AN AMERICAN. I am none of the former.[/quote] How is this contrad

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Please don't use a rogue democrat to paint a picture of the entire party. This is not how all liberals or all democrats think.

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[quote]And I heard tales of my grandparents in the holocaust, doesn't mean jack when it comes to my dealings with germans. The people who did that are long dead.[/quote] Nor does my history have anything to do with my dealings with whites. Actually, my wife and son are white. You missed the point. The Jewish people I know remember the atrocities and celebrate thier cultures resiliance in the face of utter tyranny. Why can't we (as Americans of all creeds) do the same?

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[quote]Food is a whole different thing, there is no racism there. He specifically attacked the whole "something-american", even irish american or italian american. And the whole point wasn't that you aren't "american too", but that you aren't AFRICAN... drop the african and call yourself american. The last few throwbacks in the KKK would tell you "you are just an african, don't call yourself american". We are saying "you are just american, let prejedice die and drop the african".[/quote]

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[quote]Read what I Said about victim mentality. The asians here don't celebreate their past abuse, nobody remembers that asians here were horribly mistreated, that they were put in concentration camps in WW2 (not DEATH camps), that there is even a term not an asian man's chance because of how they used them to lay explosives during mining with too short a rope and fuse, on purpose. How they were attacked... Heck, Jet lee and other famous asian TV stars worked hard to get their own communitie

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[quote]As americans we are gettitng there. We have come far, but until we see George Washington Carver as a great American (not a great Black American) we will not be there. He is the former, and as a foot note the latter. And that is the way it should be. A foot note. not the headline.[/quote] Paritallly true. When we see GW Carver as an African-American who overcame the limitations of culture due to his heritage, we can truly appreciate him as being American.

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[quote]Besides, again "Italian American" is not comparable to "African American". To be comparable, you would have to say "European American".[/quote] Wrong again. African is chosen due to a loss of tribal heritage that happened in slavery. You actually prove my point for me. We celebrate being of African descent as much as someone who is Irish, Italian or anyone else. Nomenclature is not restricted to continents vs countries because you don't like it. Why can't it b