George W. Bush "Our Worst President Yet"

I personally will vote for Bush because I do not want the Democrats in office. Lately, they've seen a bit psychotic and fanatical.

Tell me, didn't Bill Clinton do just about everything right. And then Bush gets in and we're immidiately in the worst situation we have ever been in. Worst national debt, bad economy, pointless war that we started, and the worst environmental record ever. Anyone who looks at all of the facts and votes for Bush, has some kinds of problems. No offense. Reagan did great in his first term but the it collapsed in his second, and in Bush's term. And we joined dessert storm and brainwashed the country. Clinton came in and everything was smooth. W. comes in and we get attacked and everyone gets all patriotic and it gives us an excuse to enter two wars. While he gets rid of all Clintons good environmental acts and economy crashes. If it wasn't for this War on "Terror" he'd lose in a landslide.Not to mention the election he stole in 2000. Thats all. Thanks for your opinion.

Well iul89, you're forgetting that Clinton committed that High Crime and Misdemeanor, lying about SEX. I'm pretty sure that most people have lied about sex, so clearly no one is suitable to be the president.

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jeb, most people don't have sex with a subordinate in their place of work and then lie about it. How was everything "smooth" with Clinton? He sent our men to fight in more countries than Bush. How did Dessert Storm brain wash anyone? What were Clinton's "good environmental acts"?

We did not start a war. If you think it is pointless, maybe you should spend some time living in Iraq. If you don't believe there is a war on terror being fought, I think you have "some kinds of problems".

I don't know how I will vote yet. I can't say there is anything about Kerry that I like. He flip flops on every issue. I'm just not thrilled by either prospect at the moment.

The lie about sex doesn't really bother me, but that incident with Kerry throwing a fake medal into a fire while others threw their real ones is unpatriotic at best.

I liked Clinton. Too bad he couldn't get elected for a third term.

As far as Bush goes: we weren't expecting anything from him anyway, were we? At least he's not snorting coke anymore.

Actually, most people who have sex with their subordinate do lie about it. Whatever the president did, that's between him and his wife, it does not and should not qualify as high crimes and misdemeanors.

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well let's not carried away. he did some ok things but he does some really crappy things. but so he's not as bad as grant, harding, buchanon, nixon, etc.

About the war, the main reason I am against it, is because the whole damn world is against it. Who's side would you take, The U.N. or Bush and Blair? And about Clinton, what is it your buisness what he does with his personal life. I'm sure him and Hilary haven't been a "couple" for years, but stayed together for political reasons.

That's what I always thought their relationship were. I don't think that's bad though. It's just intelligent, because nobody's going to elect a bachelor to office.
Still, if adultery is something that shouldn't matter when electing somebody, what about other personal aspects, such as the coke thing? I mean, do any of us really care that someone snorts coke if they can still do a good job?

Well, let's see, adultry doesn't affect a person's mind, but coke does, difference? yes, I think there is.

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I'm glad you let the world think for you iul89. When you can't formulate thoughts on your own its good to rely on such a great place as the majority of this planet. I still find it funny that several countries in Europe are the "whole" world. Also iul89 I'm pretty sure this nation has been in far worse situations, we had those world wars, that depression thing, oh and that whole civil war. If you say Bush killed the economy, well then you don't seem to realize that the economy was already on the drop when Clinton was still in office, but then I don't blame it on either president the economy still goes in cycles and it had to drop after being up for so long, had Gore won the election the economy would have gotten just as bad. I also find it funny that everyone who argues about the huge national debt never takes into consideration inflation, magical little concept that is. As for Kerry all I can say is flip and flop.
Apparently the only point me and iul agree on is economy. Bush has had a horrible environmental record, its probably my biggest problem with him. Just as long as it improves as the economy does I'll understand.

Let's also remember that in the Civil War, it was the "whole world" that supported the Confederacy. Therefore, it was wrong of us to win it.

Not quite true.

No one supported the Confederacy. The English were courted by the South, but in the end the English knew they could get their cotton cheaper from those places that were still their colonies.

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Worst president--that's pretty stiff competition, however, I think he wins hands down.

That's what I always thought their relationship were. I don't think that's bad though. It's just intelligent, because nobody's going to elect a bachelor to office. Still, if adultery is something that shouldn't matter when electing somebody, what about other personal aspects, such as the coke thing? I mean, do any of us really care that someone snorts coke if they can still do a good job?

to be fair, he is only suspected of being a former coke guy before, '73 i think? an adulterer brain surgeon can probably still do the job after getting some in the broom closet, but not after doing a line of coke. past adulterer presidents have a varied record: harding, jefferson, fdr, etc.

man, the conservatives aren't posting why they're for bush for some reason.

Actually, most people who have sex with their subordinate do lie about it. Whatever the president did, that's between him and his wife, it does not and should not qualify as high crimes and misdemeanors.

That's absurd. First, what happens in the oval office is our business. This didn't happen in his private life. This happened at "work". Secondly, if he felt that it was none of our business, then he shouldn't have lied.

As for Bush, I prefer Bush over Kerry because I approve of the US foreign policy very strongly and I like policies that lower my taxes rather than raising them.

I've yet to see someone explain why someone should vote for Kerry. His policy is...what? He advocates what exactly? Besides raising my taxes what exactly would Kerry do as President?

Russell: Most "conservatives" aren't going to bother to respond to this thread because the article really doesn't merit a response. Liberals aren't exactly explaining why they're for Kerry btw.

BTW, anyone who thinks Bush (or Clinton) are the worst presidents in American history are demonstrating immense ignorance of US history. There is nothing either President has done that remotely qualifies them as "worst" President in history.

About the war, the main reason I am against it, is because the whole damn world is against it. Who's side would you take, The U.N. or Bush and Blair?

Well that's an intelligent thing to say. So the UN security council didn't pass a resolution supporting the war explicitly. So in other words, if France, Russia, and Communist China were in support of it, you'd be fine. But because the US and UK were for it, you're against it. Ack. Okay, this thread is clearly a waste of my time.

I will vote for Dubya, because we deserve it.

Four more years we will be dug into our own graves so deep, the pendulum will swing swiftly and surely to the side of common sense. Sometimes it takes a leader of great ineptitude to accomplish great things.

Then and only then can the new age of enlightenment begin. Led by Hillary Clinton

Well Poet, your post speaks for itself.

The hatred of Bush is almost always without any specifics. BTW, I generally *liked* Clinton. I just think his foreign policy was poor but it wasn't a time where foreign policy mattered that much. Now it does. And we need a leader who will make tough decisions to hepl the US's national interests for the long term.

brad:

Liberals aren't exactly explaining why they're for Kerry btw.

let's be fair here. aconservative gave plenty of reason to show his 'why vote for kerry' thread "really doesn't merit a response."

aconservative in reply number 3: (three!)

...kinda childish, asinine, senseless, halfwitted that only liberals can understand.

jul89 may have accused bush of stuff but at least he refrained from the insults.

Well, for starters (and I'm not a liberal), bush's main appeal is to a minority of the population. A democracy is, by definition, majority rule. Since the very beginning of Bush's presidency, he has been misrepresenting the people of America.

(by the way, I'm new at this, so don't say anything too harsh unless you are unable to articulate your points)

Russell: Most "conservatives" aren't going to bother to respond to this thread because the article really doesn't merit a response. Liberals aren't exactly explaining why they're for Kerry btw.

Whoops. Like I said, I'm new at this.