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Where was the "outrage" from the NYT's back then

Where was the "outrage" from the NYT's back then

The controversy following revelations that U.S. intelligence agencies have monitored suspected terrorist related communications since 9/11 reflects a severe case of selective amnesia by the New York Times and other media opponents of President Bush. They certainly didn’t show the same outrage when a much more invasive and indiscriminate domestic surveillance program came to light during the Clinton administration in the 1990’s. At that time, the Times called the surveillance "a necessity."

"If you made a phone call today or sent an e-mail to a friend, there’s a good chance what you said or wrote was captured and screened by the country’s largest intelligence agency." (Steve Kroft, CBS’ 60 Minutes)

Those words were aired on February 27, 2000 to describe the National Security Agency and an electronic surveillance program called Echelon whose mission, according to Kroft,

"is to eavesdrop on enemies of the state: foreign countries, terrorist groups and drug cartels. But in the process, Echelon’s computers capture virtually every electronic conversation around the world."


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Reply #26 Top
You turning into a Liberal?


Glad you caught the "Subtle" humor. ;~D
Reply #27 Top
I read it 2 times and could find no references about that.


Did you find it yet drmiler?


Yeah I found it. So we're supposed to take his word as gospel when he has been shown to have a proclivity to stretch the truth?
Reply #28 Top
Yeah I found it. So we're supposed to take his word as gospel when he has been shown to have a proclivity to stretch the truth?


Well, if you could show any evidence to the contrary I'd be more than happy to take a look. It might take me 3 times reading it to comprehend it, but I'll give it a shot.

Don't you find it rather curious that not one government official blew the whistle on Clinton for this doing searches and surveillance with no warrants as opposed to the reported 10-13 that blew the whistle on the current program? Don't you find it rather curious that no FISA judges resigned in protest?

I'll be waiting patiently for that "evidence".

good luck!


Reply #30 Top
Is this all about Clinton-bashing or NY Times and "Davadedalus"-bashing? I find it noble that both sides are attempting to arrive at truth; however, when it comes to surveillance, shrouded in secrecy, it would better serve your time to forget about it, and admit "evidence" is preconditioned by partisanship, hopefully not nasty bias.
Reply #31 Top
You should learn to hide your mistakes before denying them


found: a window to drguy's soul
Reply #32 Top
found: a window to drguy's soul


I am honored, but I have hidden nothing except some personal blogs that I dont want some people to read.