Col Gene

It is very clear that there is nothing anyone on this site can say to convince you, make you understand or at least think twice before replying. It doesn't matter how much fact we throw at you, how many times we repeat these facts or how many times we contradict you, you will still follow thruogh what you believe in, repeating yourself like a broken record and even changing the topic of an article to prove a point.

Not one thing could come out good of this war in Iraq that you will not find something bad about. It doesn't matter if the Iraqi people are free and form a democratic Govt that was not believed to be possible to do, you will say that the death of our soldiers was not worth it.

It doesn't matter if the chances of a terrorist group to hit the US has dropped dramatically (not that anyone can measure that cause we don't even know who the enemy is when they hide in the crowd dressed like normal people.) you will wait for even the smallest bang to accuse the Govt that they are not doing enough to protect us.

It doesn't matter if the economy is getting better, the poor are still poor and no one cares about them.

It doesn't matter that Saddam once had bio and chemical weapons and that there is no proof he disposed of them, that terrorist did exist in Iraq as has been proven, he was not a threat to the US simply because he did not have any missiles pointed straight at us.

It doesn't matter that terrorist can no longer coordinate themselves to do large attacks cause the US and other countries are now fighting them and cutting off their resources and locations like Afghanistan, Iraq, France, Britain and other places, they are all gathering and recruiting more terrorist to fight us.

This is your line of thinking, that no matter what good can come out of something, you will always find a fault.

These are facts that you can not deny:

1)You call yourself a republican yet you cry for the poor.
2)You claim to be a Col and have worked executive positions yet you act and speak like a child.
3)You speak of a book you wrote yet your spelling leaves little to be desired.
4)You contradict yourself often in your own articles with the links you provide.
5)You are stubburn as a mule and twice as ignorant.
6)You have no respect for other peoples opinions.
7)You ignore facts.
8)Your modo is "repetition is the key to success".

There are more but I would like to let others continue to add to this list of facts.

I will once again try to restrain myself from wasting time posting in your articles or replying to any of you post.

Later.

"3)You speak of a book you wrote yet your spelling leaves little to be desired."

This doesn't mean a person with bad speling cannot be an author, JFK had notoriously bad handwriting and spelling yet was an accomplished author and became President of the USA amongst other things. He actually had the highest IQ of all US Presidents.

Then he was shot of course.

Your problem is that facts and the results of the policies we are following make no difference to you. I have provided solid factual data that shows the Bush policies have not produced results that anyone would consider positive. I have documented that problem areas that Bush inherited have gotten worse during the past five years. You ignore the facts, attack me or change the subject.

Bush said again this week he will stay in Iraq until we WIN! What is a WIN for the United Stares? Is training enough Iraqi military and police so we can remove our troops? Is it a stable government in Iraq that we can work with in the Moslem World? Is it an Iraq that will NOT allow the Islamic terrorists to operate from Iraq to export their death and destruction? I have not heard Bush give a clear definition of WHAT is a WIN!

Bush has admitted almost all the information he used to choose to invade Iraq was WRONG! How can a decision predicated on wrong information be correct? How has our removal of Saddam made the United States Safer?

Please provide some direct answers to these questions.

"3)You speak of a book you wrote yet your spelling leaves little to be desired." This doesn't mean a person with bad speling cannot be an author, JFK had notoriously bad handwriting and spelling yet was an accomplished author and became President of the USA amongst other things. He actually had the highest IQ of all US Presidents. Then he was shot of course.

Ok, OK, I give you that much.

You see I can change my mind and have a diferent opinion when faced with facts.

Look at what the leader of Pakistan has to say about the Iraq war.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/12/05/musharraf.cnn/

Look at what the leader of Pakistan has to say about the Iraq war.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/12/05/musharraf.cnn/

Your problem is that facts and the results of the policies we are following make no difference to you.

No, they make no difference to you. You are the one who refuses to see facts when given to you.

I have provided solid factual data that shows the Bush policies have not produced results that anyone would consider positive.

Yea like those who you say the economy is dying yet many here have proven you wrong? The irony is that some people actually agree with you, like on this same article, about the borders. Even I agree with you, but do you care? No, you wont even acknowledge them when they agree with you. Because all you care is about bashing Bush. These issues are just fuel for you fight, you really don't care to the point when something good happens you ignore it.

I have documented that problem areas that Bush inherited have gotten worse during the past five years.

At times you have and some have agreed but do you care? No.

Bush said again this week he will stay in Iraq until we WIN! What is a WIN for the United Stares? Is training enough Iraqi military and police so we can remove our troops? Is it a stable government in Iraq that we can work with in the Moslem World? Is it an Iraq that will NOT allow the Islamic terrorists to operate from Iraq to export their death and destruction? I have not heard Bush give a clear definition of WHAT is a WIN!

This is where your biggest problem lies. You are so bent on bashing Bush that you don't even know what he is trying to say. You are so lost that anything that Bush says, even if you don't get it must be a bad thing for the US. Hows about you make it you job to understand the man before you go out criticizing him.

Bush has admitted almost all the information he used to choose to invade Iraq was WRONG!

The guy has the balls to admit on national Tv that one thing is wrong and you automatically say almost everything? You really are a sad person. Get a life.

How can a decision predicated on wrong information be correct?

Are you telling me you have never taking risk in your life? A decision predicated on info that was believed to be true.

How has our removal of Saddam made the United States Safer?

Even my 7 year old can answer that, on less maniac in power. Are you that thick? Can you possibly be any dumber? How can you not believe that a madman like Saddam, having bio and chemical weapons before and proof of search for yellow cake (hope I said that right), is not a dangerous person to anyone? Answer me that question, and please done come with that "he was not a threat to the US" BS cause it's boring and worn out. Everyone knows he was a threat, the republicans knew it, the democrats knew it, Europe knew it, everyone did, except you. Where have you been the past 10 years or so?

Look at what the leader of Pakistan has to say about the Iraq war.

Yes let's see what he has to say. As you see in this next quote his opinion is that it is less safe and does not point to any proof of it:

"I think it's less safe," Gen. Pervez Musharraf said on CNN's "Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer."

This from that link that has this line as a sub-title

But says pulling troops too early would be a mistake

This is what he believes tbut does not provide any proof as to why he believes this. remember, he was against the war from the begining.

Although ousted Iraqi President Saddam Hussein "was a hated man" in his own country, many Iraqis have now turned their wrath on the U.S.-led forces that remain behind to provide security for an interim government, Musharraf said.

Yes Saddam was hated, but I have yet to see this wrath against the US forces from the Iraqi people. Although we were fighting insurgents and terrorist that came into Iraq. And judging by the recent election and the Iraqis who are helping find weapon caches, it seems that they are more willing to help make their country better than fight us. Even if they do want us out it would be much easier to help us than to fight us.

But you don't see that do you? You only saw the title and there you have it folks, proof.

I love it when you make it easier for us to demolish you Col.

What I said about the economy is that GDP and the stock market are UP. However average weekly wage is DOWN. The issues that impact average individuals are WORSE then five years ago. You ignore this data. Please look at the following:


December 21, 2005 | EPI Policy Memorandum

What's wrong with the economy?

by EPI President Lawrence Mishel and Policy Director Ross Eisenbrey

1. Profits are up, but the wages and the incomes of average Americans are down.

* Inflation-adjusted hourly and weekly wages are still below where they were at the start of the recovery in November 2001. Yet, productivity—the growth of the economic pie—is up by 13.5%.

* Wage growth has been shortchanged because 35% of the growth of total income in the corporate sector has been distributed as corporate profits, far more than the 22% in previous periods.

* Consequently, median household income (inflation-adjusted) has fallen five years in a row and was 4% lower in 2004 than in 1999, falling from $46,129 to $44,389.

2. More and more people are deeper and deeper in debt.

* The indebtedness of U.S. households, after adjusting for inflation, has risen 35.7% over the last four years.

* The level of debt as a percent of after-tax income is the highest ever measured in our history. Mortgage and consumer debt is now 115% of after-tax income, twice the level of 30 years ago.

* The debt-service ratio (the percent of after-tax income that goes to pay off debts) is at an all-time high of 13.6%.

* The personal savings rate is negative for the first time since WWII.

3. Job creation has not kept up with population growth, and the employment rate has fallen sharply.

* The United States has only 1.3% more jobs today (excluding the effects of Hurricane Katrina) than in March 2001 (the start of the recession). Private sector jobs are up only 0.8%. At this stage of previous business cycles, jobs had grown by an average of 8.8% and never less than 6.0%.

* The unemployment rate is relatively low at 5%, but still higher than the 4% in 2000. Plus, the percent of the population that has a job has never recovered since the recession and is still 1.3% lower than in March 2001. If the employment rate had returned to pre-recession levels, 3 million more people would be employed.

* More than 3 million manufacturing jobs have been lost since January 2000.

4. Poverty is on the rise.

* The poverty rate rose from 11.3% in 2000 to 12.7% in 2004.

* The number of people living in poverty has increased by 5.4 million since 2000.

* More children are living in poverty: the child poverty rate increased from 16.2% in 2000 to 17.8% in 2004.

5. Rising health care costs are eroding families' already declining income.

* Households are spending more on health care. Family health costs rose 43-45% for married couples with children, single mothers, and young singles from 2000 to 2003.

* Employers are cutting back on health insurance. Last year, the percent of people with employer-provided health insurance fell for the fourth year in a row. Nearly 3.7 million fewer people had employer-provided insurance in 2004 than in 2000. Taking population growth into account, 11 million more people would have had employer-provided health insurance in 2004 if the coverage rate had remained at the 2000 level.

How do you discount statements like this :



WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The U.S.-led invasion of Iraq was a mistake that has made the world a more dangerous place, but a swift withdrawal would make matters worse, Pakistan's president said this weekend.

"I think it's less safe," Gen. Pervez Musharraf said on CNN's "Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer."

Asked whether he considered the invasion a mistake, the Pakistani leader said: "With hindsight, yes. We have landed ourselves in more trouble, yes."

Musharraf was in Washington on Saturday for a brief meeting with U.S. President George W. Bush and is now in London for talks with British Prime Minister Tony Blair on Monday.

In Washington, the leaders of Pakistan and the United States discussed the issue of terrorism, bilateral concerns, relations between India and Pakistan and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. (Full story)

Although ousted Iraqi President Saddam Hussein "was a hated man" in his own country, many Iraqis have now turned their wrath on the U.S.-led forces that remain behind to provide security for an interim government, Musharraf said.

"People at the lower level don't like the visibility of foreign troops who are in their country," he said.

Pakistan opposed the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq.

However, Musharraf said he does not believe U.S. and coalition troops should pull out immediately. Only after elections are held and the situation stabilized should the United States consider a withdrawal from Iraq, he said.

"[An early withdrawal] would create more problems in the region," he said. "Now that we are there, we need to stabilize the situation."

As I said it is an opinion, a statement, not factual. Remember the key words "I Think". He was not even 100% sure of his own answer. How can you consider that a sure statement. Not to mention that he doesn't think we should withdrawal immediately.

Everyone has the right to an opinion, that has been said time and time again. That does not make it a FACT. God, for a man who was tought to listen and learn you sure are one hard headed person.

What I said about the economy is that GDP and the stock market are UP. However average weekly wage is DOWN. The issues that impact average individuals are WORSE then five years ago. You ignore this data. Please look at the following:

Fine. But what people need to do is look for better jobs. People need to stop acting as if they can't find better jobs, they should also get a better education. The American people have gotten use to depending on the Govt to solve all their problems, what they need to do is try harder. I should know, I'm one of them who hasn't tried hard enough and that is the reason for me being here in Puerto Rico. But that will change in 5 months when I move back and prove to you that I can find a good job, get paid good and live a decent life simply because I am willing to fight for it.

Looking and finding a better jobs is the problem. The data I posted is the overall data on job creation, weekly wages being paid etc. These are the things that impact the working Americans. They are ALL negative. At the same time GDP growth has taken place, the average worker is worse off then when Bush took office. HOW DOES THAT SHOW A GOOD ECONOMIC PERFORMANCE? GOOD FOR WHOM?

The statement of the President of Pakistan is an informed opinion from a head of state in a Moslem country in the middle of this conflict. He is an ally of Bush and still he said, "The U.S. lead invasion of Iraq was a mistake that has made the world a more dangerous place"

" He is an ally of Bush and still he said, "The U.S. lead invasion of Iraq was a mistake that has made the world a more dangerous place" "

What do you expect in a post 9/11 world?

Col Gene It is very clear that there is nothing anyone on this site can say to convince you, make you understand or at least think twice before replying. It doesn't matter how much fact we throw at you, how many times we repeat these facts or how many times we contradict you, you will still follow thruogh what you believe in, repeating yourself like a broken record and even changing the topic of an article to prove a point.

---DJBandit

You're just now getting this?
See, Col. Green sees the world through special glasses that, like the X-Ray Specs in the comic books, allow him to see through troublesome things like logical arguments and facts, no matter how oft-repeated or solid, to his true goal: bashing Bush. That's all that matters to him. He's the true One-Trick Pony.
If he were homeless, he'd be the guy sitting on the steps of some building, screaming his mindless theories and stuff, while jingling the change in the paper cup when you walk past.

Forget reasoning with him. He's nuts.

There are some mindless people on this Blog site but I am not one of them.

There are some mindless people on this Blog site but I am not one of them.

You are not mindless, human physiology, animal physiology for that matter, requires a mind (brain) to function. What you lack is the ability to use it. Your mind is like a one way street, everything comes out, nothing goes in. Most people here would call you a robot or automated, at least robots can be reprogrammed. I personally find it insulting to compare you to such wonderful technology as robotics.

DJ

You are such an idiot. It is you and the other that support Bush that do not like it when I state the facts as to what has been taking place over the past five years. You must think things are not going well because every time I give you the facts it is Bush Bashing. That is your term. I state what has taken place and you give it a name.