Ted Kennedy is an idiot

Any specifics, or just a general observation?

Uhm ... hasn't that fact (T. Kennedy == idiot) been accepted as Gospel truth for a (large) number of years now?

Was it something specific in his questions or was it just general reinforcement of his idiocy?

An evil idiot to boot. I can only assume that the Kennedy family has so much of Massachusetts beholden to them - there is no other explanation for his re-election over the years.

Cheers,
Daiwa

Any specifics, or just a general observation?

Nothing too specific. I just heard him complaining about the "imperialist President", and the usual bs rhetoric from liberals.

You'r a good distance from being convincing.

From the bottom of the Chappaquiddik to the topped off shot glass, Mary Jo Kopechne would probably agree.

Of all the senators on the committee, Kennedy is definitely the most clueless. His questions were the most irrelevant, and I doubt he even understood what he was asking...

I wondered when he was going to get around to actually asking a question (but that was true of most of the senators).

Kennedy (D-Mass.) asked further hostile questions on CAP -- the Princeton University concerned alumni organization that, among other things, opposed co-education at the university. Kennedy said he did not think Alito's responses to the committee on CAP "add up." Kennedy proposed issuing a subpoena to the owner of the organization's records and go into executive session to do so. Specter reacted angrily, asking why Kennedy had brought this up in public as opposed to consulting with Specter on it in advance. Kennedy claimed he sent Specter a letter. Specter, angrily, said he never got one. "If you're going to rule it [a subpoena] out of order, I want to have a vote on that," Kennedy said. "I take umbrage at you telling me what I received," Specter said, with growing anger. Kennedy: "I would appeal the ruling of the chair." Specter: "There's been no ruling of the chair." Kennedy said he was moving for an executive session and "we're gonna have votes of this committee again and again and again" until Specter goes along. Specter: "I'm not going to have you run this committee," Specter said. "I will consider it in due course."

Specter is going to be eating some crow courtesy of the guy you think is an idiot. Maybe Specter, like you thought he was an idiot. It appears, at least in this case, that Specter is the idiot.

Specter admits he discussed Kennedy’s letter in a phone call with his Chief-of-Staff. He rejected the request then but said if it was really important Kennedy should have mentioned it to him at the gym. (Kennedy explained he hasn’t been to the gym since before Christmas.) Specter has now agreed to get the records.Link

So what does any of that have to do with Judge Alito's fitness for the Supreme Court? If membership in a fraternity is a disqualifying detail then their would be very few college grads left for any office.

Kennedy is a murdering waste of human flesh whose only in office because of a family name and pity votes on the coat tails of a couple of dead brothers. His greatest accomplishment is staying out of jail.

The letters are a pathetic ruse that he only brings up because he has absolutely nothing better to do with his pampered, do nothing, know nothing life.

So what does any of that have to do with Judge Alito's fitness for the Supreme Court? If membership in a fraternity is a disqualifying detail then their would be very few college grads left for any office.

I didn't say it had anything to do with his "fitness" for the Supreme Court. The only way I could see it having any legitimate effect on the hearings would be if the documents showed some indication that Alito was actively involved in the group to which he stated he only faintly remembers joining. It could show that he has some integrity issues if it were to come out that he misled the committee about his involvement, combined with the fact that he failed to recuse himself from Vanguard cases which he testifed he would, but chose not to.

Specter is going to be eating some crow courtesy of the guy you think is an idiot. Maybe Specter, like you thought he was an idiot. It appears, at least in this case, that Specter is the idiot.

I think you'll find that Kennedy is going to be the idiot! You seem to forget, "Kennedy" is "not" in charge of the hearings. Specter is.

You seem to forget, "Kennedy" is "not" in charge of the hearings. Specter is.

What does the fact that Specter is the chairman have to do with this? I haven't forgotten that fact, but it's irrelevent to the issue in question. Specter became very belligerent on the record that he had never received the letter from Kennedy. Kennedy has introduced evidence into the record that Specter in fact did receive the letter. Kennedy has a response to his letter from Specter's office. Specter has since admitted that he did receive the letter. As I said above, in this case (The Case of the Missing Letter ), Specter has been shown to be the idiot.

I should also add that in general, I have considerable respect for Arlen Specter, he just put his foot in his mouth badly this time.

I didn't say it had anything to do with his "fitness" for the Supreme Court. The only way I could see it having any legitimate effect on the hearings would be if the documents showed some indication that Alito was actively involved in the group to which he stated he only faintly remembers joining. It could show that he has some integrity issues if it were to come out that he misled the committee about his involvement, combined with the fact that he failed to recuse himself from Vanguard cases which he testifed he would, but chose not to.

and Judge Alito couldn't change since 30 years ago....John Kerry "did"

and Judge Alito couldn't change since 30 years ago....John Kerry "did"

I don't understand your point. Could you please explain.

What does the fact that Specter is the chairman have to do with this? I haven't forgotten that fact, but it's irrelevent to the issue in question. Specter became very belligerent on the record that he had never received the letter from Kennedy. Kennedy has introduced evidence into the record that Specter in fact did receive the letter. Kennedy has a response to his letter from Specter's office. Specter has since admitted that he did receive the letter. As I said above, in this case (The Case of the Missing Letter ), Specter has been shown to be the idiot.

Okay I'll give you that point. I do have one question. Exactly what does this have to do with the Alito hearings? As far as I can tell, it has nothing to do with it. Which is what the original "idiot" comment was all about. As far as the hearings themselves are concerned......Kennedy is "still" an idiot!

Spector is only slightly less an idiot than Kennedy, I'm afraid. So I hardly see what debating the merits of an argument between two idiots over an irrelevant issue adds.

Kennedy has nothing so he's trying to invent some sort of "smoking gun" that he can wield. Won't work anyway, so let him make an even bigger fool of himself.

Cheers,
Daiwa

Spector is only slightly less an idiot than Kennedy, I'm afraid. So I hardly see what debating the merits of an argument between two idiots over an irrelevant issue adds.

Those of us who live in PA, "know" that Spector is a RINO! Which accounts for how a "republican" keeps getting elected in a predominately a "blue" state.

You'r a good distance from being convincing.

True, but then one only has to listen to Teddy to be convinced.

Exactly what does this have to do with the Alito hearings? As far as I can tell, it has nothing to do with it. Which is what the original "idiot" comment was all about.

Ummm....these events happened IN the Alito hearings.

Exactly what does this have to do with the Alito hearings? As far as I can tell, it has nothing to do with it. Which is what the original "idiot" comment was all about. Ummm....these events happened IN the Alito hearings.

That may well be. But that is "NOT" what the original "idiot" comment was about. Since you obviously have not followed the Alito hearings, "Hic" Kennedy made an idiot out of himself by his idiotic line of questioning and his even dumber responces to Judge Alito.

Any specifics, or just a general observation? Nothing too specific. I just heard him complaining about the "imperialist President", and the usual bs rhetoric from liberals.

Well, since Island Dog said it wasn't anything specific.

Since you obviously have not followed the Alito hearings

I haven't followed the hearings? Then how is it that you didn't even know what I was talking about when the whole debate between Specter and Kennedy happened in the hearing?

I haven't followed the hearings? Then how is it that you didn't even know what I was talking about when the whole debate between Specter and Kennedy happened in the hearing?

Just an FYI... I knew exactly what you were talking about. But Kennedy is "still" an idiot. And had you been following the hearings a little better you would have been able to figure out the "idiot" comment with out any help.

Okay I'll give you that point. I do have one question. Exactly what does this have to do with the Alito hearings?

Yes, it sounds like you knew exactly what I was talking about.

And had you been following the hearings a little better you would have been able to figure out the "idiot" comment with out any help.

Oh, trust me...I didn't need any help figuring out that Kennedy is in general, an idiot. If you go back and read very slowly......you will see that I was only referring to this one particular exchange between Specter and Kennedy.