WHY SHOULD WE HAVE TO PAY FOR OTHER PEOPLES HEALTH-CARE?

from JoeUser Forums
A federal health-care program would be the biggest disaster ever, of any government program. It would surly bankrupt the whole country. The cause of our current high debt and deficits is the entire ridiculous social program spending since the Lyndon Johnson days. Haven’t we learned anything by the way the Post Office is run? And how about the mess in the public school system? If you want to pay double the money and get half of what you pay for, just let the inefficient bureaucrats run it.

Today, in America, many people behave like morons. Homosexuals engage in very risky activities bringing diseases upon themselves. Young people fornicate massively, thereby getting all kinds of venereal diseases. Half the population eats so unhealthy that they become obese. More couples are living together than there are married couples. Then they have children for taxpayers to pay for. People use drugs and alcohol that makes them unproductive and sick. Guess who pays again for these basket cases. It’s the taxpayers, of course.

Now how would you like to be an average Joe with a wife and 2 or 3 kids to support, and have to pay 40 percent or more taxes to pay for these basket cases? Most of these bad kinds of people are democrats. The people in the Democratic Party are far more socialist than those in the Republican Party.

America has the best medical system in the world. Free enterprise and free markets made it that way. Virtually every major breakthrough in medicine has come from this country. Free enterprise has brought about the research and development that has given us this superior medical system. Any government take over of it would make it a dysfunctional mess. Also, the average taxpayer would have to pay at least 30 percent higher taxes to pay for it all. The slobs would pay nothing and the hard working family people would pay for it all. This just would not be fair.

Lets scrap this nonsense about free government health-care. It would never work and it would only bankrupt the country.
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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top
How about Social Security? Let's hear your scathing diatribe against this most socialist of programs. Let's hear one from any Republican.
Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top
You make a big mistake about fornication, people living out of wed lock, homosexuality, drugs, alcohol etc.
Your mistake is that you believe these things to be new and rampant.  But those things have remained at a relative constant level, just that these days people are more up front about it.  Can read the history books if you'd like.
Ashes of the Singularity II
Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top
Marvin,

I thought you were a very religious person, wanting to help everyone. But somehow you believe that if we all vote republican and let corporations run the US (if they aren't already) we will have a better country? So how does having corporations getting rich of health care drive care costs down, unless someone is getting screwed?

I guess voting repubican and waging a holy crusade is better than spending money at home on helping others?
Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top
In Britain we run a National Health Service to ensure peasants receive adequate medical attention. After all how would rich businessmen like myself work them senseless is they weren't healthy enough to come into work? Of course, wealthy people like myself may pay for better quality private health care, but the basis is still there so that if those who cannot afford decent health care can receive it. Americans might say, 'Why should I pay for someone else's healthcare man' but it is your Christian duty to protect the weak. Being a Knight of the British Empire it is also my chilvalric duty to do this, in fact it is the most British of things indeed! If our NHS were not so over-run with men wanting sex-change operations, paid for by the taxpayer, then it would be efficient. The key is keeping the peasants healthy enough to work and then profiteering from their higher productivity.

Sir Peter
Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top
You will pay - one way or another. It is just a matter of when and how.
Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top
Marvin, best medical system in the world? Try going to Japan. Lowest infant mortality in the world. The US is 24th, yes twenty fourth. I guess you are a world traveller and have polled health care systems everywhere?
Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top
Marvin, I've been trying to not say this, but I simply cannot contain it anymore:


You, sir, are a pompous, self-righteous, mis-informed, ill-advised, ignorant horse's rear end, who (IMO) has some serious sexual issues. I think that's why you're so anti-homosexuality - could it be that you're subconciously hiding some repressed homosexual tendencies yourself? Just a thought....

I had wanted to say it a little simpler than that.....but chose to try and keep it 'clean'.
Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top
Thanks Marvin for another entertaining piece of nonsense. You must be a gay guy pretending to be an eight-year-old pretending to be a Republican.
Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top

The comments on this blog would be more useful if they were more about the subject and less about whatever personal issues people have with the writer.

I do agree that public healthcare would screw the honest worker and would be filled with corruption (even more than it is now).  The government would also be extremely inefficient at running it.

Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top
Wow, Marvin Cooley, CompassionLESS Conservative.

I thought Brad's post was a little hard-hearted, but at least he had sympathy for those who had a bad roll of the dice. Yes, there are some who abuse the system, and there are some who should get off their duffs and take a job (McDs may not be great, but it will help to pay the bills). But there are some who through no fault of their own, or due to past intellectual miscalculations, have been in need of a little aid (medical or otherwise).

IG
Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top
Marvin, you should realize you already pay for it.

When people can't pay for their hospital bills, the hospital passes the costs on by raising ther rates. In turn, your insurance company passes the higher expenses on to you in premiums. This isn't an issue of you shelling out more money for other people, you already shell it out.

I don't agree with 'universal healthcare', but you have to be realistic and realize that people are gonna get healthcare when they can't pay, and those costs aren't gonna just be absorbed by the providers.
Reply #14 from JoeUser Forums Top
The big problems with universal healthcare is huge corruption and abuse of the system. There is also the problem of the wait. People in countries with a national healthcare system end up waiting for many weeks for procedures people in the US currently get much quicker. While it is very Christian to help your fellow man I don't believe this is necesarily the best way to do it. I believe in a much more middle of the road system for healthcare.