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The President did link Saddam and al-qaeda

December 10, 2005 7:35:30 PM from JoeUser ForumsJoeUser Forums
Why do liberals forget this? Why aren't they held accountable for their actions?


The Clinton administration talked about firm evidence linking Saddam Hussein's regime to Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network years before President Bush made the same statements.

In fact, during President Clinton's eight years in office, there were at least two official pronouncements of an alarming alliance between Baghdad and al Qaeda. One came from William S. Cohen, Mr. Clinton's defense secretary. He cited an al Qaeda-Baghdad link to justify the bombing of a pharmaceutical plant in Sudan.

Mr. Bush cited the linkage, in part, to justify invading Iraq and ousting Saddam. He said he could not take the risk of Iraq's weapons falling into bin Laden's hands.

The other pronouncement is contained in a Justice Department indictment on Nov. 4, 1998, charging bin Laden with murder in the bombings of two U.S. embassies in Africa.

The indictment disclosed a close relationship between al Qaeda and Saddam's regime, which included specialists on chemical weapons and all types of bombs, including truck bombs, a favorite weapon of terrorists.

The 1998 indictment said: "Al Qaeda also forged alliances with the National Islamic Front in the Sudan and with the government of Iran and its associated terrorist group Hezbollah for the purpose of working together against their perceived common enemies in the West, particularly the United States. In addition, al Qaeda reached an understanding with the government of Iraq that al Qaeda would not work against that government and that on particular projects, specifically including weapons development, al Qaeda would work cooperatively with the government of Iraq."
The Clinton administration talked about firm evidence linking Saddam Hussein's regime to Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network years before President Bush made the same statements.

In fact, during President Clinton's eight years in office, there were at least two official pronouncements of an alarming alliance between Baghdad and al Qaeda. One came from William S. Cohen, Mr. Clinton's defense secretary. He cited an al Qaeda-Baghdad link to justify the bombing of a pharmaceutical plant in Sudan.
Mr. Bush cited the linkage, in part, to justify invading Iraq and ousting Saddam. He said he could not take the risk of Iraq's weapons falling into bin Laden's hands.

The other pronouncement is contained in a Justice Department indictment on Nov. 4, 1998, charging bin Laden with murder in the bombings of two U.S. embassies in Africa.

The indictment disclosed a close relationship between al Qaeda and Saddam's regime, which included specialists on chemical weapons and all types of bombs, including truck bombs, a favorite weapon of terrorists.

The 1998 indictment said: "Al Qaeda also forged alliances with the National Islamic Front in the Sudan and with the government of Iran and its associated terrorist group Hezbollah for the purpose of working together against their perceived common enemies in the West, particularly the United States. In addition, al Qaeda reached an understanding with the government of Iraq that al Qaeda would not work against that government and that on particular projects, specifically including weapons development, al Qaeda would work cooperatively with the government of Iraq."
The Clinton administration talked about firm evidence linking Saddam Hussein's regime to Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network years before President Bush made the same statements.

In fact, during President Clinton's eight years in office, there were at least two official pronouncements of an alarming alliance between Baghdad and al Qaeda. One came from William S. Cohen, Mr. Clinton's defense secretary. He cited an al Qaeda-Baghdad link to justify the bombing of a pharmaceutical plant in Sudan.
Mr. Bush cited the linkage, in part, to justify invading Iraq and ousting Saddam. He said he could not take the risk of Iraq's weapons falling into bin Laden's hands.

The other pronouncement is contained in a Justice Department indictment on Nov. 4, 1998, charging bin Laden with murder in the bombings of two U.S. embassies in Africa.

The indictment disclosed a close relationship between al Qaeda and Saddam's regime, which included specialists on chemical weapons and all types of bombs, including truck bombs, a favorite weapon of terrorists.

The 1998 indictment said: "Al Qaeda also forged alliances with the National Islamic Front in the Sudan and with the government of Iran and its associated terrorist group Hezbollah for the purpose of working together against their perceived common enemies in the West, particularly the United States. In addition, al Qaeda reached an understanding with the government of Iraq that al Qaeda would not work against that government and that on particular projects, specifically including weapons development, al Qaeda would work cooperatively with the government of Iraq."


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Reply #1 December 10, 2005 7:49:33 PM
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Exactly what "actions" are you calling them to be accountable for?

Do you have a link to where you got this info from or a link to the indictment documents that you mentioned?
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Reply #2 December 11, 2005 1:09:03 AM
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Do you have a link to where you got this info from or a link to the indictment documents that you mentioned?


Try this one from the Washington Times.

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Or this one:


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Reply #3 December 11, 2005 12:29:09 PM
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Exactly what "actions" are you calling them to be accountable for?


Liberals and democrats said for years, even before Bush was elected, that Saddam had WMD's and he was a threat to the U.S. Now for reason when Bush says it he's a "liar", but when liberals say it nobody complains.

I think it's just called hypocrisy.
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Reply #4 December 11, 2005 12:40:48 PM
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Question for liberals:

Did Bill Clinton LIE when he said that Saddam had WMDs and that there was a connection between Saddam and Al-Qaeda.

Did George Bush lie when he said the same?
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Reply #5 December 11, 2005 2:18:35 PM
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Now for reason when Bush says it he's a "liar", but when liberals say it nobody complains.

I think it's just called hypocrisy.



I think it is just what Brad said. They cant and wont debate.
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Reply #6 December 11, 2005 2:47:40 PM
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Because (according to the Bash Bush Bus) the second Prs. Bush took office, everything from the economy to foriegn affairs became Prs. Bush's problem. Nothing that was said or done before that matters anymore... That's also why the democrat candidate could state that we were in "The worst economy in 50 years" two campaigns in a row without contradicting themselves... even among those who remember the economic fiasco that was the Carter administration. ;~D
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Reply #7 December 11, 2005 6:18:26 PM
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"The worst economy in 50 years" two campaigns in a row without contradicting themselves... even among those who remember the economic fiasco that was the Carter administration. ;~D


That is kind of funny to those of us who lived through the malaise years!
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Reply #8 December 11, 2005 6:19:26 PM
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I notice they won't answer Leauki's question.
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Reply #9 December 12, 2005 9:04:07 PM
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Still no answer.
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Reply #10 December 13, 2005 7:56:02 AM
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Where is the col's outrage? The President lied, right?
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Reply #11 December 16, 2005 8:59:18 AM
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Col, Clinton linked al-qaeda and Saddam. Where is the outrage?
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Reply #12 December 16, 2005 10:30:56 AM
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you won't get him over here....unless it is something to do with...well, you won't get him over here
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Reply #13 December 16, 2005 10:49:22 AM
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Col modos are "repetition is the key to success" and "if you can't beat them, repeat yourself till you beat them".
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Reply #14 December 16, 2005 10:54:37 AM
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or...."repeat yourself until they get tired and bored, and just simply leave....then declare victory and total political triumph"
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Reply #15 December 16, 2005 11:00:01 AM
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or...."repeat yourself until they get tired and bored, and just simply leave....then declare victory and total political triumph"

You mean he thinks he beat me because I ignore him now?

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Reply #16 December 16, 2005 11:43:27 AM
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it's not that the left are hippo crypts it's just a simple case of democratic dementia
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Reply #17 December 16, 2005 11:43:27 AM
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it's not that the left are hippo crypts it's just a simple case of democratic dementia
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Reply #18 December 19, 2005 8:06:03 AM
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Question for liberals:

Did Bill Clinton LIE when he said that Saddam had WMDs and that there was a connection between Saddam and Al-Qaeda.

Did George Bush lie when he said the same?
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Reply #19 December 19, 2005 11:05:13 AM
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Question for liberals:

Did Bill Clinton LIE when he said that Saddam had WMDs and that there was a connection between Saddam and Al-Qaeda.

Did George Bush lie when he said the same?


Hey klink....Answer the damn question will ya? If not just go away.
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Reply #20 December 19, 2005 11:27:57 AM
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Both Clinton and Bush were wrong about Saddam and al-Qaeda. Bush not only tried to link Saddam with al-Qaeda but tried to link Saddam with 9/11 which is not true! Bush had Intel that said many of the things he presented as FACT might not be true. That is especially true of his claim about a nuclear program Bush and Cheney insisted existed in Iraq. The Mushroom Clouds over our cities was the worst example of scare tactics about something that Bush was told was not correct. Bush ignored the Intel that did not support his desire to invade Iraq. The arguments Bush used have been shown to be almost 100 % incorrect. That says a lot about his judgment. How could he be almost totally wrong?
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Reply #21 December 19, 2005 11:44:59 AM
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I assume that President Clinton also had access to intelligence reports?

Now, did they lie or not?
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Reply #22 December 19, 2005 11:57:36 AM
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I can not say if they lied. But Bush presented things as FACT that has Intel said might not be TRUE. Is that a lie? You tell me. Bush also went to War predicated on arguments that he knew might not be true. Is that a lie?
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Reply #23 December 19, 2005 11:57:56 AM
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Both Clinton and Bush were wrong about Saddam and al-Qaeda. Bush not only tried to link Saddam with al-Qaeda but tried to link Saddam with 9/11 which is not true!

Prove it.

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Reply #24 December 19, 2005 1:29:18 PM
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I would like to know why Col Gene is so determined to say that Saddam and Al-qaeda were not connected. Do you somehow believe that Saddam was evil, just not evil enough to do such a thing? Do you believe the same about Osama? How can you be so sure that they weren't linked somehow? There may not be solid proof of their connection (at least I don't know of any), but there is no proof of them not being connect either. It's interesting how Col will defend people like Saddam and Osama over our President simply cause he hates him. It's his right to dislike our Commander in Chief but to defend the enemy simply to hurt one of your own for personal taste is disgusting.
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Reply #25 December 19, 2005 9:48:14 PM
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I would like to know why Col Gene is so determined to say that Saddam and Al-qaeda were not connected.


Col doesn't care about anything but blaming Bush for something.
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