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Island Dog
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Reply #26 December 10, 2005 8:20:30 PM
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"Yes, you're right that is about the same as someone coming to your door and forbidding you to celebrate Christmas. Maybe you should send you child to a private school then. Then they will even be able to sing such classics as Oh Holy Night, Away In A Manger, and other Christmas songs."


It's cute how faux liberals pretend to care about freedom of expression until it is something they don't want to hear. A Christian doesn't want a particular song in school, and they're up in arms because someone's morality is being imposed. Now they have their secularist morality demanding no one be able to express themselves in any way they oppose.

There's a tipper gore in all of them, if you ask me.
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Reply #27 December 11, 2005 12:50:33 AM
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Yes, you're right that is about the same as someone coming to your door and forbidding you to celebrate Christmas. Maybe you should send you child to a private school then. Then they will even be able to sing such classics as Oh Holy Night, Away In A Manger, and other Christmas songs.


And just why pray tell should he have to do that?
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Reply #28 December 11, 2005 2:44:58 AM
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I didn't say he had to do anything. However, if the holiday song choices for his child are too limited in the public school system, then it might be good to look into a private school.
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Reply #29 December 11, 2005 2:57:18 AM
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" I didn't say he had to do anything. However, if the holiday song choices for his child are too limited in the public school system, then it might be good to look into a private school."


But that means that public school is just private school you are required by law to pay for, and yet have no say in. If you don't like it, keep paying for it and pay extra to send your kid elsewhere. What happened to the "public" in public school, after all? Don't pretend we don't pay to send our kids there, we do. Being government run, it seems we should have MORE of a say in its function.

If it were private it would be like any other business. We could agree or take our business elsewhere. We have to pay for public school, though; we have to be a shareholder. SHouldn't we have some sort of influence?
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Reply #30 December 11, 2005 9:54:44 AM
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We do have some influence in how public schools are run. That's what local school boards are for. You can attend school board meetings and make your opionion known. You can also vote for members of the board that share your beliefs.
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Reply #31 December 11, 2005 10:01:31 AM
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However, if the holiday song choices for his child are too limited in the public school system, then it might be good to look into a private school.

Why should I double pay?  I am already paying for Public Schools.  How about you refund my tax money going to the schools, and I will put them in private ones.  Deal?

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Reply #32 December 11, 2005 10:02:37 AM
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That's what local school boards are for. You can attend school board meetings and make your opionion known. You can also vote for members of the board that share your beliefs.

Number 1, sure, and get arrested! And Number 2, not everywhere.  Better research that a little better.

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Reply #33 December 11, 2005 11:21:02 AM
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Number 2, not everywhere. Better research that a little better.


Research it yourself. I'm talking from my personal experience of places where I've lived.

Get arrested? It's illegal to attend school board meetings? I'm sure we could all find some instances where people have gotten out of hand and been arrested, but you could find the same thing in all other areas too.
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Reply #34 December 11, 2005 12:43:26 PM
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Yes, you're right that is about the same as someone coming to your door and forbidding you to celebrate Christmas. Maybe you should send you child to a private school then. Then they will even be able to sing such classics as Oh Holy Night, Away In A Manger, and other Christmas songs.


There is absolutely no reason a child shouldn't be able to sing a Christmas song in public school. We did it when I was in school and it didn't endorse a religion nor did it "offend" anybody. Why should I have to change schools for my child because a few, and I mean a very few people, get offended by Christmas. Liberal tolerance at it's best.
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Reply #35 December 11, 2005 12:48:46 PM
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Number 2, not everywhere. Better research that a little better.


Research it yourself. I'm talking from my personal experience of places where I've lived.

Get arrested? It's illegal to attend school board meetings? I'm sure we could all find some instances where people have gotten out of hand and been arrested, but you could find the same thing in all other areas too.


Well then your experiences are a little limited. In some school districts the meetings are "closed", which means you're not allowed in. If you do enter you could be arrested. Same with number 2....in some districts board members are "not" elected. They are appointed. Which would mean you have no say in who represents you. So he's right. Before you make such a generalization, you should do a little more research.
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Reply #36 December 11, 2005 1:22:26 PM
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Research it yourself. I'm talking from my personal experience of places where I've lived.

I dont have to. Elected School boards are not in every locality of Virginia, so you lose - again.

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Reply #37 December 11, 2005 1:24:18 PM
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Get arrested? It's illegal to attend school board meetings?

YOu did not say attend.  Try again, or do you need it in another language?

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Reply #38 December 11, 2005 4:13:15 PM
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That's what local school boards are for. You can attend school board meetings and make your opionion known. You can also vote for members of the board that share your beliefs.


YOu did not say attend. Try again, or do you need it in another language?


Ummm....looks like I did in fact say attend. You don't have to try another language, english does well...but it's hard to understand your talking out of your ass all the time. It gets a little muffled along the way.
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Reply #39 December 11, 2005 4:16:48 PM
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I dont have to. Elected School boards are not in every locality of Virginia, so you lose - again.


I didn't lose anything. I clearly stated that I was referring to places where I've lived. I don't know how you backwards people in VA do anything, nor do I care. My statement was to Island Dog and not to your bumpkin virginia ass anyways.
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Reply #40 December 11, 2005 4:20:14 PM
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Well then your experiences are a little limited. In some school districts the meetings are "closed", which means you're not allowed in. If you do enter you could be arrested. Same with number 2....in some districts board members are "not" elected. They are appointed. Which would mean you have no say in who represents you. So he's right. Before you make such a generalization, you should do a little more research.


I didn't make a generalization. I was addressing someone directly. If that's not the case where he lives, he's free to let me know. I wasn't addressing you. I never said that in ever school district in this country things are as I stated. I didn't even say in most.
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Reply #41 December 11, 2005 6:39:24 PM
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Ummm....looks like I did in fact say attend. You don't have to try another language, english does well...but it's hard to understand your talking out of your ass all the time. It gets a little muffled along the way.


Yea, after the fact! LOL! You are a lousy spinner!
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Reply #42 December 11, 2005 6:40:08 PM
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I clearly stated that I was referring to places where I've lived.


Which means squat! Wrong again!
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Reply #43 December 11, 2005 6:41:12 PM
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didn't make a generalization. I was addressing someone directly. If that's not the case where he lives, he's free to let me know. I wasn't addressing you. I never said that in ever school district in this country things are as I stated. I didn't even say in most.


Whirrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!
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Reply #44 December 11, 2005 7:56:45 PM
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We do have some influence in how public schools are run. That's what local school boards are for. You can attend school board meetings and make your opionion known. You can also vote for members of the board that share your beliefs.


That's my post...how is that "after the fact"?

Which means squat! Wrong again!


Wrong? You are so childish.
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Reply #45 December 11, 2005 8:04:00 PM
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Wrong? You are so childish.


Wrong! You're childish! Naa Naa N Naa Naaaa

(I just thought I'd beat him to it. )
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Reply #46 December 12, 2005 7:48:48 AM
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Wrong! You're childish! Naa Naa N Naa Naaaa

(I just thought I'd beat him to it. )

Nah, he is not worth the effort.

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Reply #47 December 12, 2005 8:29:17 AM
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I see that nobody has given a good reason why Christmas songs should not be sang in schools.
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Reply #48 December 12, 2005 8:40:11 AM
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"I see that nobody has given a good reason why Christmas songs should not be sang in schools."


There is none. I remember singing hannukah songs in elementary school, and had I not I probably wouldn't have known a thing about it until much later.
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