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Bush Hides from Average Americans

November 30, 2005 1:26:07 PM from JoeUser ForumsJoeUser Forums
President Bush has not addressed a audience of average Americans since the presidential debate in 2004. Every time Bush gives a speech it is before either a pre-screened group or the military. Why is the president afraid to address unscreened audiences?
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Reply #1 November 30, 2005 1:42:13 PM
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Last I checked, you anti American loser, the members of the military ARE "Average Americans". Or do you join Murtha in thinking of U.S. troops as "the enemy".
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Reply #2 November 30, 2005 1:46:28 PM
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Oh, please. Get a grip, FCOL.

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Reply #3 November 30, 2005 2:12:46 PM
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Or do you join Murtha in thinking of U.S. troops as "the enemy".

Hardly fair:Murtha tells us many of the "average" Iraqis see us as enemies.
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Reply #4 November 30, 2005 2:14:29 PM
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I wonderif the Col knows any average Americans...
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Reply #5 November 30, 2005 2:16:36 PM
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COL does have a grip. Bush consistently tries to sell the war to those already for it and unquestioning. He tried privitizing social security to "average" Americans and failed.
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Reply #6 November 30, 2005 2:23:04 PM
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I don't remember Clinton addressing a whole lotta "average Americans". Politicians addressing prescreened crowds is pretty much a time honored tradition.

You're slipping, Col. This article has NO meat in it...I'm sure you could do better even if it WAS just with manufactured quotes and innuendo.
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Reply #7 November 30, 2005 2:29:26 PM
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I have proven my love of America by SERVING my country not by deferments like Cheney and hiding in the National Guard like Bush. Say what your SMALL minds can handle, the truth is as I have stated. Bush is out of touch with the VAST majority on almost everything and he is afraid to face any group that does not agree with him. He is bad for this country and we will be suffering from his 8 years in office for decades to come. Yes I support Murtha. Bush and Cheney have not earned the right to to say anything aginst him!
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Reply #8 November 30, 2005 2:32:16 PM
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Hardly fair:Murtha tells us many of the "average" Iraqis see us as enemies.


Still a lie.
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Reply #9 November 30, 2005 2:33:50 PM
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I don't remember Clinton addressing a whole lotta "average Americans". Politicians addressing prescreened crowds is pretty much a time honored tradition.


This is the point. When was the last time any president appeared before an audience that wasn't prescreened, or with a background that wasn't preset?
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Reply #10 November 30, 2005 2:35:17 PM
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I have proven my love of America by SERVING my country not by deferments like Cheney and hiding in the National Guard like Bush. Say what your SMALL minds can handle, the truth is as I have stated. Bush is out of touch with the VAST majority on almost everything and he is afraid to face any group that does not agree with him. He is bad for this country and we will be suffering from his 8 years in office for decades to come. Yes I support Murtha. Bush and Cheney have not earned the right to to say anything aginst him!


Once again you hide behind defending yourself, instead of your point. Yes, Colon Gangrene, I am So-o-o-o Impressed by you. So impressed that I pity your every waking breath.
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Reply #11 November 30, 2005 3:17:16 PM
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I have proven my love of America by SERVING my country not by deferments like Cheney and hiding in the National Guard like Bush. Say what your SMALL minds can handle, the truth is as I have stated. Bush is out of touch with the VAST majority on almost everything and he is afraid to face any group that does not agree with him. He is bad for this country and we will be suffering from his 8 years in office for decades to come. Yes I support Murtha. Bush and Cheney have not earned the right to to say anything aginst him!


So I prove you incorrect once again. Bush is out of touch with a "vast" majority? What would you call our military? A minority? He seems to address them just fine. And they, unlike you back him "almost" to the man. Murtha is a complete idiot!
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Reply #12 November 30, 2005 5:21:33 PM
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Parated2k and Drmiler



You two are just like Draft Dogger Dick and AWOL George. Birds of a feather. I am proud to be on the side of Rep Murtha. I do need your acceptence.I know how I served my country and it was not by disobaying orders like Bush or avoiding service like Cheney. NOTHING you asses say change either my service or the failure of Bush and Cheney to serve their country what it was their time. They can send our brave military into a war that is not making us safer . There were no terrorists linked with 9/11 operating in Iraq until George enabled then to begin operating in Iraq. Bush created the War on terrorism in Iraq. And Yes idiot Drmiler, the several million military are not the majority of the almost 300 million Americans. You are so dumb! Also I can assure you not all the military respect Bush. Anyone that did not obey his orders the way Bush didn't should never have received an Honorable discharge- He did not earn it! More pull from Daddy! Without Daddy, George would be in a durg rehab unit about now.
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Reply #13 November 30, 2005 6:14:12 PM
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When was the last time any president appeared before an audience that wasn't prescreened, or with a background that wasn't preset?


Prescreening is probably, at least in part, a security measure.

Stop throwing invectives around, guys. Yes, it is possible to support Bush and still be sane and intelligent. Yes, it is possible to not support Bush and still be sane and intelligent. What is it about politics that makes us all leave our wits after the tone?

Dan
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Reply #14 November 30, 2005 6:37:45 PM
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I do need your acceptence.


Since I really don't think you are a total idiot, I'll assume this was a typo. ;~D
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Reply #15 November 30, 2005 6:42:47 PM
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Prescreening is probably, at least in part, a security measure.

Stop throwing invectives around, guys. Yes, it is possible to support Bush and still be sane and intelligent. Yes, it is possible to not support Bush and still be sane and intelligent. What is it about politics that makes us all leave our wits after the tone?

Dan


I know it is possible to not support Bush and still be sane and intelligent. I also know that Colon Gene is an empty headed blow hard who couldn't make a decent point if it pit him in the butt.

Colon Gene is also a cowardly pissant who was once probably an excellent officer. His accomplishments are impressive... it's too bad he traded them in for an infantile lust for class warfare and surrender to everything that moves.

He is a credit to the terrorists he roots for.
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Reply #16 November 30, 2005 7:24:34 PM
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Say what your SMALL minds can handle

Take your overinflated mind and stick it. That's pretty much the level of debate you work at.

Hardly fair:Murtha tells us many of the "average" Iraqis see us as enemies.

Did you hear Joe Lieberman discuss Iraq yesterday, steve?

And Gene, since you love polls so much, did you see the one that reported 70% of those "average" Americans believe the sniping of people like you and the Democrats political posturing on Iraq are bad for the morale of our troops and are detrimental to our success? And that 60% are opposed to an immediate pullout?

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Reply #17 November 30, 2005 8:39:47 PM
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Get off the Class Warfare BS. Bush has done more to make the poor worse off and to kill the middle income Americans then any President in 75 years. What he has done is the cause of class warfare. He takes from the poor and middle income workers and gives to the rich. He borrows to make the rich even more wealthy with his tax cuts and then passes that added debt to the next generation.
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Reply #18 November 30, 2005 10:04:07 PM
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George would be in a durg rehab unit about now.


The certainty of hate-filled zealots is remarkable, indeed.

And who exactly is on the Class Warfare BS? (Other than you)

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Reply #19 November 30, 2005 10:57:56 PM
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You are so dumb! Also I can assure you not all the military respect Bush.


True, there were a few, especially those that supported the Democratic party directly due to a personal stake in their political stance on homosexuality, (quietly of course) but most of the ones at my last unit that I discussed it with did. I did. I still do. And I'm going back in.

I'm fairly sure we all know how you feel about Bush by now, how could we not? And those of us who disagree are not going to be convinced by arguing over it. Why don't you DO something if you feel so strongly about him? Besides making angry argumentative blogs? (although I thank you for no longer "shouting" by using all caps.)

How bout something different? What about a post on what you did in the military? Or even just the latest sports game you took an interest in. If I had to judge by your writing, I'd say your only passion in life was politics.
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Reply #20 November 30, 2005 11:31:11 PM
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What is it about politics that makes us all leave our wits after the tone?
Pavlov's Dog.
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Reply #21 December 1, 2005 12:05:37 AM
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Yeah right Colon Gangrene, that is why (yet again) all the economic indicators raised again... even after an over active hurricane season and record fuel prices.

Keep singing your song Colon Gangrene, I'm sure there are a few who don't mind ignoring reality, as long as they can blame Bush for everything they think is going wrong.
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Reply #22 December 1, 2005 12:37:32 AM
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Get off the Class Warfare BS. Bush has done more to make the poor worse off and to kill the middle income Americans then any President in 75 years. What he has done is the cause of class warfare. He takes from the poor and middle income workers and gives to the rich. He borrows to make the rich even more wealthy with his tax cuts and then passes that added debt to the next generation.


And you accuse us of walking around with our heads up our butts. For God's sake don't look in a mirror!
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Reply #23 December 1, 2005 7:45:51 AM
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Daiwa

It was Para Ted 2K that brought up the Class Warfare issue.

Reaction to the Bush BS yeaterday is that about 2/3 of Americans per the overnight CNN poll believe that Iraq will end up being a safe haven for terrorists when we leave. The poll on this issue is of little value. However, if the end result of the Bush invasion of Iraq is to establish a country where terrorists can operate or a government that is ANYTHING like Iran or Seria, ALL the deaths and injuries of the American Military will have been for NOTHING. As bad as the government was under Saddam, there WERE NO terrorist cells, like the ones that caused 9/11, operating in Iraq. NOT UNTIL after we removed Saddam did these terrorist groups begin to operatre in Iraq. Iraq was NOT part of the war on Terrorism until AFTER we invaded and if Iraq continues to be a place were terrorists can operate after we leave, the Bush adventure in Iraq will be a major failure and all the deaths and injuries will have been for NOTHING!!!
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Reply #24 December 1, 2005 11:07:10 AM
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There are STILL no terrorist cells "like the ones that caused 9/11" operating in Iraq, Gene. To pretend or imply they have that kind of scope & reach is pretty pathetic.

I seriously doubt Iraq will be any easier a place for these two-bit terrorist-wannabe's once we are gone than other middle eastern countries that "allow" them to exist and it is unlikely it will be anything like a "safe haven" posing a risk to the US as CNN hopes. They will be in a country whose government opposes them. The only targets they will be able to reach will be local and they already kill almost exclusively Iraqis. They don't have the financing or resources to do anything more than roadside IED's & suicide car bombs. Over the long haul, I doubt the Iraqis will tolerate them - they have a country to rebuild.

At least you agree the poll is of little value.

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Reply #25 December 1, 2005 11:48:22 AM
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Daiwa

I did not say there are no terrorist cells, "like the ones that caused 9/11" operating TODAY. They are opererating today. What I said and what the CIA has said is that THEY WERE NOT OPERATING PRIOR TO Bush invading Iraq , removing Saddam and dispanding their Army. Saddam would not have allowed any such groups to operate. He was the Dictator.

We can train all the Iraqi military and police we want. If after we leave the government that results in Iraq either allows terrorist cells to operate or is a government anything like Iran or Seria, Bush will have exchanged a LESSER evil for a far BIGGER Evil at the expense of American Lives, injuries and $300 plus Billion dollars. That is a very likely outcome in Iraq no matter when we leave.
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