The ads in todays papers were pretty much dominated by advertisements for the XBox 360.  I also saw that some stores are opening early just for this event.  I'm just interested on many WC visitors are going to buy their XBox 360 this week.

"Many retailers say they are expecting walk-up interest to exceed the number of Xboxes for sale on Tuesday. But not all retailers say they expect a problem.

"We're not aware of any shortages," said Karen Burk, a spokesperson for Wal-Mart, the country's largest chain of retail stores. "We're anticipating being able to meet the demand."

For those retailers that do expect more demand than supply, like Toys 'R' Us, Circuit City and CompUSA, early-morning visitors should expect long lines and systems designed to notify those in line whether they actually have a chance at getting an Xbox or not. "

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Here is another article I thought was interesting.

"Minutes after Microsoft's next-generation game console went on sale Friday afternoon at CircuitCity.com, the site was hobbled by a deluge of traffic.

A representative for the online counterpart to electronics retailer Circuit City said the company's site saw a "tremendous" traffic spike at 2 p.m. ET, when the company began taking Internet orders for the eagerly awaited Xbox. (Specific traffic numbers were not immediately available from Comscore, which tracks Web use.) Microsoft has predicted it will sell 3 million consoles within the first three months following the Xbox 360's release.

Other retailers had taken preorders for the Xbox, but Circuit City was the only online store selling the consoles Friday. "

http://news.com.com/Xbox+360+mania+slams+CircuitCity.com/2100-1043_3-5961443.html?tag=nefd.top

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no Xbox when it first came out - no Xbox with this release either. I'll wait for PS3 and nintendo revolution. (only play those platforms anyways - love nintendo have NES, SNES, N64, original green screen Gameboy *huge gray thing*, Gameboy color, GameBoy advance, Nintendo DS ~ and my PS2 & PSP)
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I'm not going to get a 360 either. I know the PS3 will outperform it in terms of hardware and the PS3 has a bigger selection of games.
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I was all for XBOX 360 especially because of the price advantage (I wan't gonna get it till next year and I am sure that whatever the PS3 is sold for... some say 400+ or 500 just for SONY to make a profit... it is going to be a hundred dollars less than the PS3) but I don't know anymore... I really liked my PS2 and I am a fan of Playstation.

Then again...
Plus with that whole rootkit fiasco with SONY... I was really just not getting the PS3.

But the games!!!!


They got the exclusive for GTA 4 and of course Grand Turismo VISION. Plus, it is said to be backward compatible for all games not just a select few (not that I have any XBOX games). As for the technology, from what I read it is simular to XBOX 360.

XBOX might have less titles, but they got XBOX Live and some cross platform titles like Final Fantasy and EA Sports games. Halo and some others too. Plus they have that connect to your PC thing going for it. if you want to, you can have a really nice entertainment hub at home.

I know you can do that with the new PS2, but it seems from what I ead so far, you don't have a choice. One system, no options to opt out of all of the extra stuff you won't use. XBOX 360 allows you to opt out and buy later.
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No one knows squat about the PS3 really, so speculating that it'll be better or worse than the 360 or Revolution (another mystery system) is silly really. Game selection is also completely unknown at this point so saying one will have more games than another (excepting the backwards compatability, but if you really care about the older games, just keep the old console).

The 360 is the only "known" item in the next gen console wars. The PS3 has already experienced feature cuts in an attempt to get it shipped in a reasonable time frame. Right now, rumors are it's being pushed back as far as 2007, which gives MS a HUGE lead to get a solid game selection out there. It'll also be able to compete on price better.

The fact is, Sony fans will buy the PS3 regardless of whether or not the system is better, or the games are better. Same for XBox and Nintendo fans. Actual merits of a system or games available don't matter a whole lot. Then there's those of us who will just have multiple consoles when all is said and done (I'm an XBox and Nintendo guy myself... never dug the Playstation games much at all)
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I will get all three but I think the only one I will buy at release will be Revolution since its A) less expensive B) guranteed to have good first party games and C) trying something different
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My 360 is pre-paid at the local EB Games store, but I may wind up waiting a while (not my choice) because of supply issues.

Wal*Mart (mentioned in the original article) may be talking the talk, but they most likely will not have supply to meet demand either, and once people figure out which stores have supply and which don't, there's gonna be a run on those stores too.

Anyone that wants the 360 for the holiday's and didn't prepay or at least pre-order soon enough is gonna be paying a premium to speculators/scalpers that bought extras and will have enough to sell on eBay or elsewhere.


As to the PS3 or other systems, price, games, features and a lot of other things will determine how well those systems sell. I can be a fan of multiple systems, and don't see sense in bad-mouthing either system. They each have reasons to buy them, provided I have enough money available. I'm buying the 360 first because it was out first, not because I think it will be the best of the bunch. If the PS3 had been out first, I probably would have gotten it, provided the games on it look as good as what I've seen of the stuff on the 360.
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No one knows squat about the PS3 really


Sony published the system's hardware a while back. You can look it up on the net. The Cell CPU will outperform the CPU in the 360.
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I'm going for the Xbox 360 -- most of the information I've heard about the PS3 is that it is better performance-wise, but they are talking about putting so much "extras" into it that, quite frankly, I probably wouldn't use. I'm also a huge Halo fan and I'm definitely excited about the cross-platform Final Fantasy game coming. The higher price tag has also turned me off to the PS3, despite the "better" performance.
The inclusion of Xbox Live in the premium package appeals to me -- I live on a campus that supports alternate systems on the network, such as the Xbox, so it's definitely something I'd use.

Anyway, I guess we'll find out soon how good the 360 really is and how high Sony has to jump to get over the bar.
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cross-platform Final Fantasy


What cross platform Final Fantasy? I haven't heard about this. Last time I checked Square Enix was loyal to Sony.
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I'm going for the Xbox 360 -- most of the information I've heard about the PS3 is that it is better performance-wise, but they are talking about putting so much "extras" into it that, quite frankly, I probably wouldn't use.



EXACTLY. To quote another from this thread:
The PS3 has already experienced feature cuts in an attempt to get it shipped in a reasonable time frame. Right now, rumors are it's being pushed back as far as 2007
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In other word, PS3 had evrything but the kitchen sink and of course it is easy sto speculage much like mny gamin and tech sites have from what they said they were putting in it.

I am not surprised that they are taking out stuff (if that is true) and I am not suprised about a 2007 release with everything they were talking about putting in. They DEFINAITLY was not talking about having options... one price for everything. No choices.

That right there put me WAY off. I don't even know what they could comeout their mouths and say something like that.



Kona, as far as I know Final Fantasy is on XBOX 360 unles they changed their minds.

XBOX got allot of cross platform junk. I'm a PS2 fan and DEFINATLY a PSP fan, but I am not sure about the total entertainment experience of the PS3.
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absolutely going to be picking up a 360. Even though I have a gamecube - Nintendo loyalty dies hard - Xbox has certainly become my gaming mainstay over the past couple of years. Of late, Microsoft has managed to carry a lot more exclusive titles that I am very interested in than Sony, such as Halo and KOTOR. The biggies tend to end up on both systems anyway, even if GTA:SA came out on PS2 well in advance.

I'm definitely looking forward to the ability of the Revolution to play all of the old NES, SNES, and N64 games through download. Old school Mario action. Righteous.

\m/ \m/
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*goes and plays old snes*
i skipped a generation of platforms cause of my computer but i might get an xbox 360
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I'll wait for PS3


ditto
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so its out... who bought it?
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Well, DoctorNick and Vip off of #stardock on IRC both had theres within an hour of its release. Hopefully Nick will step in and show some pics!
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I'm holding off for now, one I'm getting a new comp and two there is nothing I'm dying to play on it.


Also has anyone heard about condemned coming to the pc? I heard a rumor a few months back about it.

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Here ya go Drool away.

I got the Core system. No, I did not put a reserve down. Yes, I have one. So HAH. (I got really lucky)


Yeah...that is my ipod plugged into it...and it does play I can't wait for people to start yelling about that!


The Dashboard playing music The "Carbon" theme looks much cooler than the sterile white.


The tray magically holding the disc. With the wireless controller you can actually turn it on without touching the machine.


The Perfect Dark Intro...(totally awesome)


And the title screen. The game looks very shiny, and although the gameplay is mediocre it's still fun. I can't wait for Halo 3
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I still think you all will be regretting the purchase of a 360 when the PS3 comes out.
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Yeah...that is my ipod plugged into it...and it does play


Not that I don't believe you or anything, but I would never think the iPod would have a place to interface with the XBOX 360!!! I bet that will be /.'ed and +Digg'ed in a few minutes.... I spoke just in the nick of time...
http://www.joystiq.com/entry/1234000373068936/
Joystiq is alking about it now, and it is already on Diig.com


I still think you all will be regretting the purchase of a 360 when the PS3 comes out.



I am begining to think many people will buy both. Exspecially since the last date I heard Sony to put its PS3 out is somewhere in 2007.... 2-0-0-7!!!

Some people will regrete it though... because the XBOX makers will most likely cut the price in half when the PS3 comes out. (Well, maybe not in half, but a 20-50 dollar reduction would be hot.)
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Some people will regrete it though... because the XBOX makers will most likely cut the price in half when the PS3 comes out. (Well, maybe not in half, but a 20-50 dollar reduction would be hot.)


I was thinking on this again the other day....

Microsoft has to be kicking themselves in their own butts over their pricing.

Why do I say that?

Look at the hype over the system availability.

People are paying $1200 (give or take) for a 360 via eBay. Don't you think Microsoft would not have loved to have some of that extra $800 on a Premium system.

I know that they have to keep their prices in line and can't raise prices too much as it would curb some demand, but I think Microsoft missed an opportunity here. They knew that hardcore gamers, and spoiled rotten children of parents with too much disposable income were going to buy this system no matter what. That tells me that they could have set the prices on the box at least $100 higher and still have sold plenty.

That additional $100 for the first (give or take) 3 million units would have helped make the boxes profitable, or cut the supposed loses that Microsoft suffers on each hardware sale that much more. It also would have done wonders for Microsoft in the race vs. Sony.

Why do I say it would have helped in the race? Heres the thing. They (Microsoft) could have priced the boxes higher for the 4th quarter of this year, and most of the first quarter for next year. Especially given the limited supplies. It would have helped control the demand a little (the higher prices would have turned off a few customers, but not that many), but it would have looked like a stroke of genius if they then dropped the price by $100 going into the President's day period in late fall, early spring next year.

That would have gotten the price back to what they originally targetted for, which would have helped spur sales again at a time when they should have caught up with early demand and at a time when more hype would be starting for the PS3.

Then later, as most expect, they could have dropped the price again going into late spring/early summer when the PS3 hits.

Using laws of averaging, the early sales at the higher price would be helping to offset some forecasted loses a little later down the road that would be made to keep up demand and keep a strong competition going against Sony.

Just my $.02
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Well it seems MS has problems with the 360. Did you all see this link from another thread?

http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/11/23/138200
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Well, you might have a point there terpfan1980. Price doesn't seem to be an issue for many hardcore fans and those with more disposable money. They were going to buy it anyway.

Plus, being the first Next-Gen system out the gate, they could have made a premium on the price.

But here is why they didn't.
1 - To look better than PS3 even a whole year later. They are putting a lot of pressure on Sony to have the same amount of gear in their gaming system as in the XBOX because basically everyone knows how much the technology costs. According to many gaming sites, the PS3 and XBOX are about the same system wise. Selling the XBOX for a consistent price helps with making sure they put Sony PS3 into keeping their tech gear the same as XBOX... if they add more the cost goes up to the predicted 400-500+ area.

2 - More buzz. Just like I bulked at a 400-500+ price tag with Sony, I would have had many a question about an XBOX at 400 to 500 dollars instead of the 300 to 400 (in stores) that it is selling now.


I read about the problems XBOX is having and crashing games and junk. I am not sure if its getting blown out of proportion because it is Microsoft or that it is a legit news. I'll be the first to admit that I don't expect a gaming system to crash because... well its not a freakin OS or something... its a gaming system. Even if I looked at it as a 'entertainment system', just like my radio in years past, I don't expect it to explode when I turn on the knob.



Well, sometime in 2006 (or 2007) we will see what the Sony 'the rootkit' PS3 will do. It might sell for 500 I bet, taking the high road and calling itself the entertainment system. If you can sel a PSP portable for 300, you can sell a 'desktop' version for 500. Plus PS3 has that processor chip that might be able to use the internet for more processing power from other PS3's. (I thought that was cool).

Still rather get an XBOX though... but I am the one who will have to wait and see cause I don't have that type of money.
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hard to complain about the price, really, when MS is losing over 100 bucks PER console. If the video in the XBOX is what people are claiming it is, it would cost you about as much just to buy just that videocard for a PC.