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Bush Hits back - Dems Reveal hand

Bush Hits back - Dems Reveal hand

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,175878,00.html

Bush and Cheney have been on the offensive lately.  Some say it is way overdue.  They are refuting the claims of the Democrat leadership that they were in the dark.  (Yea, I know, they are always in the dark).

But Rep Murtha played their hand today.  He called for a complete and utter retreat from Iraq.  Forget the 2000 Americans and the other allies losses!  Time to pull out!

So the democrats are finally getting honest, if not smarter.  Murtha has shown that the democrats, who voted for the war before they voted against it, have one simple agenda.

The defeat of America will mean the defeat of Bush!  So let us pack up and leave and admit defeat so we can say Bush was defeated!  Forget all those men and women who sacraficed for the 30 million iraqis!

Forget the fact that while the bacteria still exist and continue to target more innocents than troops are losing.  Forget the fact that we have liberated a country where a despot routinely slaughtered those he did not like.  Forget all that!

Let's cut and run!

You know what is more sickening than not having a policy, as the democrats have not had for 5 years.  What is more sickening is that they detest the troops so much that they want to trash them to get to Bush.

That is what is truly sickening!

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Reply #126 Top

Bush trashed McCain during the election of 2000. Try this one:



Commentary: Bush turns to men he trashed

Col, I asked for a link, not an example of cut and paste,  And if you read the article, you will see the only thing that the Bush campaign (it does not say Bush himself) is accused of is misrepresenting his support of Cancer research.  I know that has NEVER been done before in the history of Political campaigns (sorry, I still cant find the sarcasm tags).

You said Bush trashed the MAN.  I said link.  So far, you are 0 for everything.

Reply #127 Top

ONCE AGAIN you do NOT address points made. I never said Bush didn't trash McCain DID I? NO I didn't.And just what in Gods name did you expect?

I said it.  ANd I do beleive I was clear.  I stated that he was trashed politically, not personally as Col Klink insinuated. BIG DIFFERENCE

Reply #128 Top

I was giving Dr Guy post #120 his reference. If Bush killed someone on national TV you guys would tell us that it was the fault of the person killed for being at that place not that Bush was wrong. What a piss poor bunch that defent Bush!

No you did not.  You said (or insinuated) that Bush (not his supporters, not his campaign, Bush himself) trashed McCain the Man, not his politics.  You are dead wrong.  Period.

Reply #129 Top
Bush is responsible for his campaign including what his staff does. Bush and his staff DID TRASH MaCain and I gave you a source just as you requested. So just stuff it DR.Guy et al!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reply #130 Top
By HASSAN M. FATTAH
Published: November 22, 2005

CAIRO, Nov. 21 - For the first time, Iraq's political factions on Monday collectively called for a timetable for withdrawal of foreign forces, in a moment of consensus that comes as the Bush administration battles pressure at home to commit itself to a pullout schedule.
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The announcement, made at the conclusion of a reconciliation conference here backed by the Arab League, was a public reaching out by Shiites, who now dominate Iraq's government, to Sunni Arabs on the eve of parliamentary elections that have been put on shaky ground by weeks of sectarian violence.

About 100 Sunni, Shiite and Kurdish leaders, many of whom will run in the election on Dec. 15, signed a closing memorandum on Monday that "demands a withdrawal of foreign troops on a specified timetable, dependent on an immediate national program for rebuilding the security forces," the statement said.
Reply #131 Top

Bush is responsible for his campaign including what his staff does. Bush and his staff DID TRASH MaCain and I gave you a source just as you requested. So just stuff it DR.Guy et al!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No, again you did not.  Even his campaign did not trash the man.  They trashed his politics.  So we will stuff it as soon as you can produce it.  But sorry, shit dont count.

Reply #132 Top

About 100 Sunni, Shiite and Kurdish leaders, many of whom will run in the election on Dec. 15, signed a closing memorandum on Monday that "demands a withdrawal of foreign troops on a specified timetable, dependent on an immediate national program for rebuilding the security forces," the statement said.

Ok, good!  Now post the rest of the article.  Like the part that says when their Military is up to 100%?  Missed that part didn't you?  When did Murtha say that?  Can you link to his conditions?  I think not.

Reply #133 Top
About 100 Sunni, Shiite and Kurdish leaders, many of whom will run in the election on Dec. 15, signed a closing memorandum on Monday that "demands a withdrawal of foreign troops on a specified timetable, dependent on an immediate national program for rebuilding the security forces," the statement said.


Like the part that says when their Military is up to 100%?


Bush's criteria for withdraw of Iraq has been:

When a Democratically elected Government is in place
When a Democratically elected Government request the US to depart.
The Iraqi Army is trained.
When the Iraqi Army can conduct missions on their own.

In December there will be the last elections to install a Democratically elected government. Check to #1

After the 15th of Dec, if the above leaders that are elected vote again for withdraw. Check #2

The Iraqi Army is about trained, (but do not have the experience) Check #3

Iraqi Army has become the majority of troops used in counter insurgent operations and have started conducting major operations without American ground troop support. Check #4

Sounds like we are close to reaching the timetable that the MSM and the left refuse to recognize as a timetable given by Bush.
Reply #134 Top
Once again Colon Gangrene lies through his wormy little teeth to try to make a point!

The leaders of Iraq NEVER said "GET OUT!".. all they did was provide information on what their assessment of the "time table" may be. They also talked about what they plan on making happen during that time table. Link

Guess what Colon Gangrene, while you were whining like a stuck pig, the Iraqi government has been hashing out a plan to secure their own nation... the free nation that you resent, but most of us think is a pretty awesome achievement.

Live with it, wimp!
Reply #135 Top

Sounds like we are close to reaching the timetable that the MSM and the left refuse to recognize as a timetable given by Bush.

I agree.  And even the Iraqis understand that.  Even tho they are subhuman to some people.

Reply #136 Top

Once again Colon Gangrene lies through his wormy little teeth to try to make a point!

I think he is just ESL.  I asked for a hotdog, and he gave me a lemon!  Go figure.

Reply #137 Top
My post quoted the Iraq officials saying," demands a withdrawal of foreign troops on SPECIFIC TIMETABLE" That is what Bush has refused to do. Do you Bushies not understand english? You must have all gone to the Bush BS school of spin.
Reply #138 Top

My post quoted the Iraq officials saying," demands a withdrawal of foreign troops on SPECIFIC TIMETABLE" That is what Bush has refused to do. Do you Bushies not understand english? You must have all gone to the Bush BS school of spin.

Do you understand english?  And drop the Bushie crap.  We already know you are a screaming liberal, that just makes you look stupid.

Now, do you want to reread Lee1776's reply?  CAN YOU?  Do you Need Garrett Morris to read it to you?

Reply #139 Top
Lee lists a series of events not a timetable. Some of the events on the list may NEVER take place i.e. the last two.
Reply #140 Top
Murtha was called a coward by a fellow "MARINE"! There was a letter sent and read on the floor. The text was...."Cowards cut and run, Marines NEVER do!" So if you want to take umbrage with the statement then I would suggest you take it up with the actual person that said it!


Murtha was NOT called a coward by a fellow Marine. He was called a coward by Jean Schmidt, who has since been caught in a lie. It seems the Marine she referred to never used the word coward and never even discussed Murtha with her.Link
Reply #141 Top

Lee lists a series of events not a timetable. Some of the events on the list may NEVER take place i.e. the last two.

Try again!  That is worse than lame!  Now try, for once in your life, to debate the facts.

Reply #142 Top

Murtha was NOT called a coward by a fellow Marine. He was called a coward by Jean Schmidt, who has since been caught in a lie. It seems the Marine she referred to never used the word coward and never even discussed Murtha with her.Link

Congratulations!  You finally found out how to debate!  However, I will point out 2 things.

1: When DrMiler made the statement, it was 'alleged' to have come from a Marine.  He was just relying on the testimony of another.

2: The Marine in question did say coward, however he did not call Murtha one, nor any Marine one.  So you are only paritially right.

But you got a point!  See how easy it is?

Reply #143 Top
The "testimony" of another? LOL Yes, we should all know better than to trust anything from the mouth of a Republican. Sorry, couldn't resist that one.

Actually, I was trying to not be too nit-picky, as Drmiler said it was a quote from a letter, but she actually said she received a call from the marine.

The text was...."Cowards cut and run, Marines NEVER do!"

But that's all beside the point.
Reply #144 Top

as Drmiler said it was a quote from a letter, but she actually said she received a call from the marine.

That is also correct.

Reply #145 Top
and she did look as if she was wearing her 1976 cathy rigby wanna-bee warmups
Reply #146 Top

and she did look as if she was wearing her 1976 cathy rigby wanna-bee warmups

She probably could have filled them out in 1976.