All Is Quiet on the JU Front

I rather suspect that Nuke O'Reilly's outrageous comment on San Francisco has made JU speechless. Apparently the site is too preoccupied with digging up liberal gaffes. Besides, SF deserves a terrorist attack no less than Paris, eh? 
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What has O'Reilly been saying now?
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there is no complaint whip, just more liberal twisting of truth, O'reilly has his entire comment posted on his web site, at no point did he ever say an attack on frisco is warrented or ok, if you take small snippets oof his speech and use them out of context, you can get him to say anything, The leftewing nuts have started a campaign years ago to get rid of bill and his huge audience.

This time they leftwing blogs has posted form letters to send to fox so they do not tax the zombie sheep little tiny brains.
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http://billoreilly.com/blog#733599634464643136

here is the link to bills comments about sewerfrancisco, unedited.
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What about what SF did to prompt his comments, steven? No interest in discussing that?

Cheers,
Daiwa
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Nope, not really. JU seems to have about the same "noise level" as ever. And here I was expecting this to be a decent article...

Dan
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No interest in discussing that?

 

it wouldn't fit into his worldview if he discussed how communities that want to enjoy benefits of government should be expected to contribute to that government along with everyone else.

 

Steven this article is *extremely* lame for you. You have done much better in the past.

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Are you all ganging up on me or San Francisco?
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"hey, SF, if you want to ban military recruiters in your city, fine, just don't expect the military to protect your city from acts of terrorism then."
Echoes of Pat Robertson--I agree not very original; besides, first offenders attempt to protect a city, not the military.

What about what SF did to prompt his comments, steven? No interest in discussing that?

All SF did was to restrict recruitment on campuses--hardly revolutionary.

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And O'Reilly's comments are revolutionary? I also have a minor quibble with O'Reilly's comment, though I understand where he's coming from - I would say, fine, then no Federal funds for SF colleges, pull the military installations, the Federal Reserve Bank, the 9th circuit court, few things like that. SF wants to cherry pick what it's willing to accept from the Feds, the Feds can respond in kind.

Cheers,
Daiwa
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Are you all ganging up on me or San Francisco?


This is an interesting reply coming from the writer of this article titled All Is Quiet on the JU Front . I guess not as quiet as you are.
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All SF did was to restrict recruitment on campuses--hardly revolutionary.

Revolutionary? Or devolutionary?

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Are you all ganging up on me or San Francisco?


Think of it as a strange compliment. Your articles are generally pretty good, and this one, well... wasn't. When you raise the bar, it's more difficult to get away with ducking under it.

Dan
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Fly-Over America is angry, steve. Every time the 9th circuit shoves some Liberal "truth" down our necks or idiot celebrities say that anyone who doesn't agree with them ( a large percent of the population ) is a moron, we get more angry. DOn't forget that a rather nasty war was fought over a particular ethos being shoved down the throats of a marginalized segment of the nation. "States rights" is re-evoked every time California courts decide how people in other states have to proceed.

We aren't really represented unless we win an election, and then Liberal culture pretends that we are the "fringe" or marginalizes us in terms of importance or intelligence. It isn't just San Francisco, it is the "culture" centers of America that have slowly created their own culture and forgotten that they are just a fraction of the whole.
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or idiot celebrities say that anyone who doesn't agree with them ( a large percent of the population ) is a moron,


not that o'reilly isn't an idiot...or saying that anyone who doesn't agree with him is a moron....or even lying about not being able to play his original statement...

CHRETIEN: But you actually left out the part at the end there where you said if Al Qaeda came to San Francisco and wanted to blow up Coit Tower.

O'REILLY: Yes, we have the whole -- we can't play the whole thing. It's five minutes long. And anybody can hear it billoreilly.com. But it was obviously the satirical reference. And even the San Francisco Chronicle knows that.


(it's actually 69 seconds long)
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nope steven, we disagree all the time for me this is just one more disagreement. I have not nor will I gang up on one such as you {compliment}
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granted, king, but if you had asked people in both the north and the south about each issue that created the environment for the civil war; asked them if each issue was worth losing hundreds of thousands of lives, they would have laughed off the idea.

I think the idea expressed is stupid, don't get me wrong, but it isn't a sickness, it is a symptom. People do more and more stupid things the more alienated and marginalized they feel. Look at France now.

Can you expect packs of Conservatives burning cars in the streets? Thankfully, no, but every now and then one of them blows up a building housing the ATF, or they get together and pass a really heinous law that makes even moderates shake in their boots.

I don't think we should cater to people's stupidity, not in the least. But you have to judge how much abuse people can take when you abuse them. You might raz the guy at lunch about how his momma wears combat boots, but you aren't catering to "violent tendencies" when you stop before he knocks your block off. You should care that you are upsetting him to that point needlessly.

People should care that fly-over America feels this way. They should care that somehow political cores have become so detatched, on both sides of the aisle, that most people don't have a voice. When people get this annoyed, they get nasty. Expect people to get nastier before things get better.
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People should care that fly-over America feels this way


am i missing something here? we're still discussing a local initiative that may or may not be enforceable, right?

why or how would it ignite the kinda rage you're describing?
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I just wonder if the folks who want to ban military recruiters are equally as up for banning PETA, Greenpeace, the Animal Liberation Front, Act Up and other militant groups???
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reread the first paragraph of post #18, kingbee.

A pinch isn't much, but continual pinches over time constitute torture. Then the pinchers are taken aback and say "What, all this over a pinch?" If you've been pinched enough, you don't even need to be personally pinched, just seeing the fekkers pinch someone else inspires rage.
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kay...i just couldnt figure out why the 9th circuit was involved. and i'm still unsure this is that far outta line.

it's a response to the nclb requirement that the recruiters be given access to students' names and contact information--without having to ask parents' approval--in order for school districts to get federal funds.
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we've discussed that before, though. All this does is even the playing field, allowing the military the same respect colleges have gotten.

I remember my junior year I started getting tons of information from colleges, and I hadn't requested a bit of it. I'm not sure if my school system sold our names and addresses, or did it out of the kindness of their hearts to get us into college, but they had my information beamed out there nonetheless.

Contact information isn't really "private" anyway, is it? If so, perhaps you woulnd't mind figuring out where the hell these telemarketers keep getting my phone number. I'm unlisted and yet every one that calls knows my name.
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re: the 9th circuit and the rest, this article seems to be about the over-response, not the instance of provocation. My point was that when someone in california does something that makes one of us mad, the response isn't just toward that one instance, it is always going to be the product of the sum of all we constantly hear from there.

wouldn't you say? Does the current response to, say, the whole White Phospherous thing reflect how people feel about white phospherous, or the whole, long saga of the Bush administration and Iraq?


people seem to understand that in terms of terrorism, or crime, or poverty. It seems plausible that saudis long-oppressed would strike out at the butt of Islamic propaganda, and yet it doesn't make sense that American conservatives, after years of being marginalized as brutish and irrelavant would wish secretly that california would just slide into the ocean?

We've been told that we aren't smart or moral enough even to make out own decisions, courts on the other side of the nation have to do that for us. Resentment? You bet. You give us way too much credit, kingbee. Of course people make statements like this one, right or not, and Oreilly simply acts as a talking head, spouting what people who watch him want to hear.
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All SF did was to restrict recruitment on campuses--hardly revolutionary.


No, not revolutionary at all. Just ignorant


The measure will have no effect on military recruiters as they are allowed on school grounds under federal law, according to U.S. Air Force Lt. Col. Ellen Krenke, a spokeswoman for the U.S. Department of Defense.


And btw.....their supposed gun ban? It "already" being challenged in court. Must have Adobe Reader to view.
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It isn't just San Francisco, it is the "culture" centers of America that have slowly created their own culture and forgotten that they are just a fraction of the whole.
You realize, of course, that the extreme right has its share of nut cases as well, and O'Reilly is one of them.
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" You realize, of course, that the extreme right has its share of nut cases as well, and O'Reilly is one of them."


I differ, in a way. I think O'reilly is a talking head who is very perceptive at homing in on the middle, where the "hell yeah" ratings are. If you look at the hate mail the man gets, he gets a ton from people further to the right as well.

I think people should see O'Reilly for what he is, a big thermometer hanging out of the behind of the US. He isn't an originator, or a leader, he's channeling a huge percent of the population for ratings. I don't believe we should cater to nutcases, but as more people are driven to this kind of a blind frenzy, we should at least look at why.

It isn't like Chruchill's "Roosting Chickens". People in the middle east aren't angry at us because of what we do to them, they are angry because they are abused by oppressive governments and greed, and their leaders sit above them making us the scapegoats religiously.

If everyone in the WTC had turned into a saint devoting their life to Middle Eastern charity, not a single person in the middle East would have been bettered, and they still would have hated us. What is happening in California and other "hotspots" is different. They are purposely thwarting the will of the people of their own nation, and daring them to do something about it. People get nasty when they have a target for their angst, and frankly the people most are angry with have legitimately earned it.