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MEDIA/DNC NICKNAME 'SCALITO' SEEN AS RACIALLY INSENSITIVE
Mon Oct 31 2005 08:42:57 ET

Before Judge Samuel Alito was even officially announced as President Bush’s next Supreme Court nominee, he met a wave of racial discrimination from numerous corners of the mainstream media and the Democrat Party. Because of Judge Alito’s conservative and Italian-American background he is often been compared to Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, and has been nicknamed by the mainstream media "Scalito."

This morning, on CNN’s AMERICAN MORNING host Soledad O’Brien said, "we've heard the nickname ‘Scalito’…. which is of course combining the Scalia, Justice Scalia and Alito. Let’s talk a little bit about their similarities."

On CBS’EARLY SHOW host Harry Smith claimed: "[Our next guest] will be on to talk about Alito, who some people are calling ‘Scalito’ because of his close resemblance to Antonin Scalia at least ideologically."

Meanwhile, the Democratic National Committee sent out talking points this morning titled: "Judge ‘Scalito’ Has Long History Of States Rights, Anti-Civil Rights, And Anti-Immigrant Rulings." More from the DNC’s anti-Italian American talkers: "Alito is often referred to as ‘Judge Scalito’ because of his adherence to Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia’s right-wing judicial philosophy."

One outraged Republican strategist claimed, "If Alito were a liberal there would be no way Democrats and Washington’s media elite would use such a racially insensitive nickname. Italian-Americans should not have to face these types of derogatory racial slurs in 21st century America.
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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top
there is no italian race. and what's with this 'italian-american' stuff? shouldn't it just be 'american' or perhaps he should move back to italy?
Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top

there is no italian race. and what's with this 'italian-american' stuff? shouldn't it just be 'american' or perhaps he should move back to italy?

Perhaps the MSM and the liberals should quit talking the talk, since they are incapable of walking the walk. Italians may not be a race, but that is a bigoted and insensitive label that smacks of narrowmindedness.

Galactic Civilizations IV
Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top
They wouldn't be doing it if he was black, or a liberal.
Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top
Haven't you heard, liberals, democrats and the MSM have received their "as bigoted as you want to be" license. Only conservatives and republicans can have bigotry held against them. Just ask Jesse and Al.
Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top
there is no italian race. and what's with this 'italian-american' stuff? shouldn't it just be 'american' or perhaps he should move back to italy?


kb, you subtle dog you.

Cheers,
Daiwa
Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top
Sure, the MSM are going to do every underhanded thing they can think of to make him out to be the next coming of Attila the Hun. An experienced judicial scholar with impeccable personal and professional credentials who has twice been confirmed to the Federal Bench by unanimous consent of the Senate scares the bejesus out of them. OMG, someone who might... be a fair judge and adhere to a strict interpretation of the constitution. No matter how they try to Bork the guy, my bet is he'll get confirmed.

Personally, I think Bush, after having the Miers pick so roundly drubbed, is challenging the conservative Republicans to put up or shut up with this one. He rightly considers the Democrats whiny bit players taking pot shots from the sidelines. Who knows, maybe he's been misunderestimated again & this was his tack all along. Maybe Rush, Will, Krauthammer, Kristol, Hannity & the rest were in on it from the gitgo - now there's a VRWC for the DU whackos to chew on.

Cheers,
Daiwa
Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top
Here's another tasty morsel from the MSM - the deification of Valerie Plame has officially begun:

Link

Cheers,
Daiwa
Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top
Please tell me again how the media is not biased.
Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top
It isn't as if the MSM anointed him "Scalito". Lawyers appearing before him are the ones who started calling him this.

How exactly is this term derogatory or a slur? I would think conservatives would be fond of this name, considering it is roughly translated as "Little Scalia". Isn't Scalia the epitome of what conservatives want in justices?

How does pointing out similarities between them, make someone anti-Italian?

I'm really not trying to start a fight, I just think this is making a mountain out of a molehill. I'm confident there will be plenty of real issues to argue about regarding his nomination in the near future.
Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top
considering it is roughly translated as "Little Scalia".


Error number 1. It is a combination of Scalia and Alito. And no, the lawyers did not start doing that. The DNC did. Do you need Tinactin for your tongue?
Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top
I realize it's a combination of the two names smart guy. I'm talking about the actual italian name "Scalito". In several languages "ito" is used as a diminuitive. "Scalito", would therefore mean "little scalia".

I know for a fact that that lawyers have called Alito this for years. My ex, a paralegal worked on an immigration case before the 3rd Circuit 4 years ago. They called him Scalito then. What's the earliest reference you have from the DNC using the term Scalito? Today? Do a little research.
Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top
I realize it's a combination of the two names smart guy. I'm talking about the actual italian name "Scalito". In several languages "ito" is used as a diminuitive. "Scalito", would therefore mean "little scalia".


Why dont you just call him a wop then? Hey Dumb guy?

And I know for a fact your ex is full of shit or you are. My Wife IS a paralegal. So get a life, and dont try to be so condescending to me in the future unless you want to battle wits.

When is not the issue. How is. Try getting a second opinion next time.
Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top
What does "little scalia" have to do with calling someone a "wop"? Little Scalia is derogatory int he same sense as wop?

Neither I, nor my ex is full of shit, and the fact that your Wife IS a paralegal proves nothing.

You are the one who said the DNC are the ones who started calling him Scalito. Stop trying to act tough and show me the first time the DNC used that term. You won't do that because you apparently don't like to use facts in arguments. You talk in generalities and then start getting all hostile and try to intimidate people who offer facts in response to your BS.
Reply #14 from JoeUser Forums Top
I know for a fact that that lawyers have called Alito this for years. My ex, a paralegal worked on an immigration case before the 3rd Circuit 4 years ago. They called him Scalito then. What's the earliest reference you have from the DNC using the term Scalito? Today? Do a little research.

I've been reading through many articles today from yahoo, msnbc, time, etc. . There are many that have mentioned the origin of the Scalito nickname as being one given to Alito because of his similarity to Scalia in his judging and conservative stance by fellow attorneys. I've also seen the Alliance for Justice PAC refer to him by this nickname but no prominent (or otherwise) Democrats refer to him in this way. I'd say somebody jumped the gun in blaming Democrats or 'liberal press' for this little bit, not that it really matters, as this nominee has got the goods, and this time, the support to pull through.
Reply #15 from JoeUser Forums Top
And I know for a fact your ex is full of shit or you are


what an egotistical and arrogant thing to say. reminds me of mussolini's brand of 'homo supremo'.
Reply #16 from JoeUser Forums Top
Davad -

Who first coined the term is irrelevant. The point is not that the term itself is derogatory, except that it is being used in a calculated way in an effort to minimize his personal and professional qualifications and accomplishments. The MSM, faithful hod-carriers for the left, are being fully complicit in this effort. Scalia is one of the left's prime bogeymen and playing this 40-degrees-of-separation game is SOP in trying to demonize whatever target is in their sights at the time. It is, of course, entirely transparent and pathetic, but then that's the sum & substance of the Democratic Partic these days.

Cheers,
Daiwa
Reply #17 from JoeUser Forums Top
Who first coined the term is irrelevant

Hardly, unless one simply wishes to bash the media for passing the name along. Nearly every article I've read regarding Alito has mentioned his nickname and it certainly does not seem to be in any manner that is derogatory.

I think time will prove this harmless little nick is simply a part of the story behind the man himself, and luckily, that time will come soon enough for JU visitors to remember some said so correctly.
Reply #18 from JoeUser Forums Top
Daiwa,

I don't agree with you but I truly appreciate the way you've stated your opinion. Some of the other conservatives here could learn a thing or two from you in that regard.

I really don't think anyone is using this term to minimize any of his qualifications and accomplishments. Even the most left of thinkers agree that he's qualified and capable of the job, they just question his ideology and the direction he could take the court, given who he will be replacing.
Reply #19 from JoeUser Forums Top
Island Dog, could you please provide your source for the article you posted?

Thanks.
Reply #20 from JoeUser Forums Top
Drudge.
Reply #22 from JoeUser Forums Top
Who first coined the term is irrelevant

Hardly, unless one simply wishes to bash the media for passing the name along. Nearly every article I've read regarding Alito has mentioned his nickname and it certainly does not seem to be in any manner that is derogatory.

I think time will prove this harmless little nick is simply a part of the story behind the man himself, and luckily, that time will come soon enough for JU visitors to remember some said so correctly.


Hey, Def.

The media is doing a lot more than just "passing the name along" as even you recognize - "Nearly every article I've read has mentioned his nickname..." I'd be willing to accept the premise of your last paragraph if this "harmless little nick" were not the lead-in to virtually every news story & TV news segment since his nomination. How many lawyers or paralegals have tagged him with this "nick"? Do we have to do a survey of all the lawyers who've ever had contact with him to determine what percentage consider him "Scalito"? The press would have you believe they all do. And they are adopting the standard technique - repetition, repetition, repetition.

Mind you, I applaud your recognition of his qualifications and probable confirmation, which is the reasonable position I think the majority will take. I'm only talking about the media's continued demonification of conservatives. They've created this fiction that the coutry is half liberal and half conservative and that the Court must somehow be "balanced". This was never their argument when the Court was packed with liberals. Noone can pretend that the media aren't trying to influence events as opposed to reporting them, at least not with a straight face.

Cheers,
Daiwa
Reply #23 from JoeUser Forums Top
davad -

Thanks, and see my reply #22 to Deference. Props to you also for your recognition of Alito's qualifications.

Cheers,
Daiwa
Reply #24 from JoeUser Forums Top
You talk in generalities and then start getting all hostile and try to intimidate people who offer facts in response to your BS.


Hahha. Classic. Its his long established pattern borne out of his need to be seen as something more than the tiresome, mediocre hack that he is.

The amusing aspect to watching gimps like Guy, is the predictable way in which their drama inevitably unfolds. So penned in are they by their feelings of inadequacy that they will jump at the chance to try and smite anyone holding views contrary to their own. All in the name of some vein (double meaning intended), yet ineffectual attempt to assert themselves as having any kind of authority or insight into the matter at hand and perhaps gain some smidgen of respite from their aforementioned inferiority complex.

Of course when that fails as it usually does due to a fundamental lack of familarity with the topic at hand there is the inevitable appeal to authority:

My Wife IS a paralegal


Really? Then you'd best be giving her your pants so she can come down here and fight your battles for you. God knows its the only way this chump could ever plausibly assert anything.



Failing this of course (what women wants to fight her unmanly husbands battles for him), he again, inevitably, resorts to outright personal attacks. Ineffectually attempting to fend off the avalanch of fact based retorts coming back from all those better informed, better connected, more experienced and let face it, most likely better endowed opponents he'd previously dismissed in his usual derogitory yet typically bumbling argumentative ways.

It goes without saying therefore that you can usually guarantee that any thread in which DG participates decends from what could have otherwise have been a fairly level headed subject-based debate among people with opposing views into statements and sentiment something like :

And I know for a fact your ex is full of shit or you are


..

In other words, the Guy is a doosh. As evidenced by his ill-informed, ill-conceived and unsubstantiated output.
Reply #25 from JoeUser Forums Top
The media is doing a lot more than just "passing the name along"

I'm certain the connotation being made between Scalia and Alito will play as a huge 'tip-off' to Democrats who see Alito's decisions as damaging to their agenda, that is not lost on me, I simply don't think that was the original intent behind his nick'.

I'm no fan of the MSM myself, but if I were to fault them for their repetition (same stories, same clips repeated every fifteen minutes and echoed almost to a 't' on every other major news network) I would be attacking the least problematic of their practices. One of them being simple omission.

Did you hear of the Phillipino spy in the White House two weeks ago downloading classified information before he was caught red-handed by the FBI?

Was there one peep from any major news network of Hugo Chavez at the U.N. showing his documented proof of 'Operation Balboa', the supposed U.S. military plan of action regarding Venezuala?

Have you heard of Sen. Ted Kennedy's Hate Speech Bill he's attempting to pass (which failed last year, Senate Bill 1145) which would basically allow the Federal government more power to prosecute individuals for 'hate speech' if they were to even protest gay rights groups by reading from the Bible?

Have you heard of the "Biodefense and Pandemic Vaccine and Drug Development Act of 2005"(S. 1873)bill which eliminates citizens' abilities to sue the makers of vaccines gone wrong?

Hell, I'm still trying to convince people that we will have a new National ID card next year simply because they've not heard it mentioned in the MSM - probably because the MSM is too busy talking about b.s. like Alito's nickname and whatever nose Micheal Jackson is now sporting (I exaggerate, but it wouldn't surprise me...) .

My point in mentioning all this is because while the MSM is busy distracting us with all this superficial crap, the real agendas, the real substantive stories aren't being reported as Americans are simply fed one mindless distraction after another.

Really, though it seems Alito does have many credentials, experience, and seems highly qualified, it is because of his judgement calls on the bench that I agree with that encourage me to lend support to his nomination.