Only 65 Sniveling Days Til Xmas

Lil Early To Be Settin Up That Nativity Kvetch, Ain't It?

from JoeUser Forums

bad enuff, we as a society hafta endure a rapidly and constantly expanding sacred holiday gift-buying season (not so long ago, no respectable enterprise woulda crassed the line by transforming its facility into a red-green-and-tinseled gwb's smirk vision of yuletide one minute before 12:00:01 the day after thanksgiving; this year, i'd not be surprised to find santa, reindeer and elf suits being stealthed in as halloween costumes) without being subjected to a buncha pre-december pissing, moaning, unrestrained rumor mongering and outraged wailing about the de-christmasization of the nation. 

i dunno exactly when this year's 'they've damn near banned xmas everywhere when i wasnt looking' crusade began, but over the past two days, i've seen a pair of  impassioned, if not terribly well-conceived condemnations of those foolish enuff to put themselves on front street by suggesting distribution of the holy candycane--a symbol that dates back to the time when jesus' own shepherd's crook was transformed into a delicious confection on that cold night in bethlehem into which he was born--by an 'ends excuse means'  holy witness in a public school classroom seems unlikely to be legal, sensible or even the christian thing to do.   

yall would accrue a great deal more credibility if you were equally as protective (or even sorta close) of the celebration of the most important day on the christian calendar--the resurection--as you are about the whole toybag fulla pagan winter solstice traditions combined with fanciful inanities, the most ancient of which possibly dates  alllllllll the way back to the last golden era (like 1850 years after christ beamed himself up.)

either i missed the big easter fatwa against the heathens who eternally labor day-in, day-out trying to roll the stone back before jesus can fully triumph over death, or yall are bettin the farm (not to mention puttin all your coal in one stocking) hoping nobody else will notice your lack of concern about easter and realize it  exposes the deliberate false witness you bear with your hysterical claims about the purported attack on xmas.  

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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top
Hehe. Nice.

I went to look for some fake blood for Xavier's Halloween zombie costume today, and couldn't find any. I DID find plenty of Christmas cards, ornaments, decorations, and candies tho.
Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top

I DID find plenty of Christmas cards, ornaments, decorations, and candies tho

shoulda bought a buncha that stuff and used it to transform the boy into a truly horrific creature...the ghost of christmas present threatening to hop over the constitutional wall separating church and state.

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Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top
'a symbol that dates back to the time when jesus' own shepherd's crook was transformed into a delicious confection on that cold night in bethlehem into which he was born'
Nice blog, and this line creases me!
Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top
this line creases me!


hopefully bein creased is a good thing.
Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top
If only you would use your magnificent mind for good, istead of evil. heh
Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top

If only you would use your magnificent mind for good, istead of evil. heh

strangely enuff (or not...since you're one of two who inspired my post by seeming  to be either on the holiday catalog schedule*  or driven by an irresistable need to indulge yourself in good ol yuletime 'everyone's pickin on me' a month earlier than everyone else)  i was thinkin the exact same thing about you earlier!

great minds, huh?

*as far as the direct mail & holiday gift catalog biz is concerned, labor day is the first day of the xmas season

Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top

Hint:  Christmas is for all mankind, Christians and non as well.  It is truly a celebration of life (for all even atheists).

Easter is a deeply religious day for all Christians (It has no meaning for others).  It is the day of salvation, and as such, it is not a day for pagan symbols.  Once you understand that, then you understand why Christmas is celebrated  by all ,and Easter is a more somber and personal day for Christians.

Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top
it is not a day for pagan symbols


Like giant egg delivering bunnies, stores full of "peeps," or "holiday specials" such as "Here Comes Peter Cotton Tail."

We reserve that sorta stuff for pagan rip-offs like Christmas.



Actually, my ilk has abandoned "Easter" (purportedly named after the fertility deity Ishtar) for "Resurrection Sunday."
Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top
We reserve that sorta stuff for pagan rip-offs like Christmas


Hehehe....that makes it official. I love Gene.

This article also makes it official that i love Kingbee too.

Everyone knows that I love Furry....he and I are going to run away together some day, right FC?

Although....looks like you've got some competition now!
Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top
I wrote an article last year stating that I firmly believe that sometime in the not too distant future, we'll be able to go to Wal-Mart and purchase Christmas items year-round (and there are many 'Christmas stores' even now, selling the holiday bells and whistles from January to January).

KMart here in town already has Christmas trees and other items on display right next to their Halloween stuff in their Seasonal area.
My wife asked if that might not be a tad sacreligious. I replied that, since none of the crap we use to decorate with actually has ANYTHING to do with the Reason for the Christmas celebration, no, it isn't sacreligious at all. Just tacky as hell.
After all, seeing a cheerfully grinning Santa and Rudolph across the aisle from a display of grinning skulls and horrific gargoyals and demons is just a little surreal for my taste. And hearing "Jingle Bells" intermingled with eerie organ music and "O Holy Night" with the themes from "The Exorcist" and "Halloween" was just too much (heard it the other night, while looking for my costume).

Much as I hate to aree with you, king....good article.

But just for the record, in case I missed a mention of it somewhere on here, the "most imporant day on the Christian calendar" isn't Christmas----it's Easter. After all, everyone is born, but only One of us ever came back after three days dead.
Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top
But just for the record, in case I missed a mention of it somewhere on here, the "most imporant day on the Christian calendar" isn't Christmas----it's Easter. After all, everyone is born, but only One of us ever came back after three days dead.


Yea, I kind of told him that as well. Actually, I like Christmas being for everyman, regardless of belief. Nice to have one time of the year where "Peace on Earth, Goodwill to all men" means something.
Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top
Actually, I like Christmas being for everyman, regardless of belief. Nice to have one time of the year where "Peace on Earth, Goodwill to all men" means something.


Very true. I always thought it was cool that, up until WW2, at least, it was traditional to call a Christmas Truce during times of war, so it could at least be acknowledged amid all the slaughter and horror. Look up the incident at Belleau Wood for a nice story.
Of course, Washington crossed the Delaware and attacked the British on Christmas Eve, so....it wasn't ALWAYS acknowledged.
Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top
Of course, Washington crossed the Delaware and attacked the British on Christmas Eve, so....it wasn't ALWAYS acknowledged.


AH! But it was the eve! Those sneaky americans!
Reply #14 from JoeUser Forums Top
Like giant egg delivering bunnies, stores full of "peeps," or "holiday specials" such as "Here Comes Peter Cotton Tail."


Perhaps you should seperate the childish symbols from the adult ones?

Just a thought.
Reply #15 from JoeUser Forums Top
In spite of my rejection of Christianity when I became an adult, Christmas remains one of my favorite Holidays.


This is just a little hypocritical, though, LW, don't you think?

Have you rejected Christ Himself, or simply the religion built around Him? There is a difference. Modern, organized Christianity can be shallow, materialistic and judgemental, yes, but the Message is still out there, for people who want to seek it out.
Reply #16 from JoeUser Forums Top
~~But just for the record, in case I missed a mention of it somewhere on here, the "most imporant day on the Christian calendar" isn't Christmas----it's Easter.~~

I agree. Christmas, like others said, kinda goes beyond religion now, and is seen as a holiday for family togetherness, generosity, and peace (although, as a Catholic, I do make it a point to remind myself that this is a celebration of Jesus' birth...I do tend to get caught up in all the commercialism sometimes).

btw, ever heard of Big Lots, the bargain store? It's notorious for pushing holidays months ahead of time...it had Christmas stuff up in late September already, and had the Hallowwen/Fall thing going soon after 4th of July.
Reply #17 from JoeUser Forums Top
Hint: Christmas is for all mankind, Christians and non as well. It is truly a celebration of life (for all even atheists).


But just for the record, in case I missed a mention of it somewhere on here, the "most imporant day on the Christian calendar" isn't Christmas----it's Easter. After all, everyone is born, but only One of us ever came back after three days dead


Yea, I kind of told him that as well. Actually, I like Christmas being for everyman, regardless of belief. Nice to have one time of the year where "Peace on Earth, Goodwill to all men" means something.


apparently you both overlooked the entire third paragraph beginning with:

yall would accrue a great deal more credibility if you were equally as protective (or even sorta close) of the celebration of the most important day on the christian calendar--the resurection--as you are about the whole toybag fulla pagan winter solstice traditions

but i'm glad yall agree with me.

with that outta the way, perhaps you can explain how it is the defenders of public religiosity--already gearing up for the good fight this year--have made christmas their posterchild and don't seem to give a damn about how easter being trivialized, perverted and commercialized from all sides.
Reply #18 from JoeUser Forums Top
Perhaps you should seperate the childish symbols from the adult ones?


Actually, my ilk has abandoned "Easter" (purportedly named after the fertility deity Ishtar) for "Resurrection Sunday."


as usual, gene is dead on here. christianity coopted ancient fertility and rebirth festivals and christian merchants have been rakin in the rewards ever since.
Reply #19 from JoeUser Forums Top
KMart here in town already has Christmas trees and other items on display right next to their Halloween stuff in their Seasonal area.


obviously merchants will do whatever they can to make a few bucks. kicking off christmas marketing before the end of dst in the us is not only unseemly...it's unseasonable.

not nearly as telling, however, as is kicking off the pre-christmas complaining-about-perceived-attacks-on-christmas (and by extension all christianity) season in mid-october.

first of all, it's childishly ridiculous to start whining in anticipation. more importantly, it erodes credibility. we have a name for those who believe themselves under constant attack even when they aren't. paranoiacs, by definition, misperceive the world. clearly those who are already moaning about attacks on holiday decorations yet to be hung and carols yet to be sung have forgotten what happens to the boy who cried 'wolf'.
Reply #20 from JoeUser Forums Top
btw, ever heard of Big Lots, the bargain store? It's notorious for pushing holidays months ahead of time...it had Christmas stuff up in late September already, and had the Hallowwen/Fall thing going soon after 4th of July.


makes sense for them cuz their business is built on buying up crap that didn't sell last year. so last year's easter stuff is on its way to them in june, and where better to store it than on their shelves where someone else can buy it from them.

maybe someone should start a forum for the prematurely persecuted, a place where they could endlessly rehash past insults (real or imagined) and call it something like 'big babies' or 'big slights'.
Reply #21 from JoeUser Forums Top
Although....looks like you've got some competition now!


either that or yall are gonna have to run westward.
Reply #22 from JoeUser Forums Top
Hey, I make one heckuva pagan winter solstice primerib!

I don't know what I think about this article yet, but I wanted to stop in and say hello.
Reply #23 from JoeUser Forums Top
don't see how enjoying the tradition of gift-giving, eating Christmas cookies, and enjoying music from my childhood makes me a hypocrite? I celebrate things like summer solstice, and I am not a Wiccan, and I might even be known to take part in Yom Kippur, too, and I am not a Jew.


Good on ya LW.

Very funny article KB.
Reply #24 from JoeUser Forums Top
#11 by Rightwinger
Saturday, October 22, 2005


Haha, I love this reply RW and quite true too!

I don't know, none of the holidays seem to be sacred anymore. These retailers just don't seem to care. I guess it's all about the bucks or being ahead of the competition!

Now if Walmart or Kmart were to have Christmas decorations all year round...why that would just be...there's no word to describe it except it would spoil Christmas!
Reply #25 from JoeUser Forums Top
I went to look for some fake blood for Xavier's Halloween zombie costume today


FYI...I got the fake blood...and not a moment too soon. Friday's costume day at school and he needs to put the fear of zombies into some little Kindergarteners. Hehe.