Iraqi's vote on (and seem to pass) constitution w/o violence

Multiple news sources are available for this one, so please feel free to choose your own slanted news source if you'd like more details.

In my case, I'm going off of info that was posted at MSNBC.com, but again, I could have chosen any of several sources to tell me the same basic thing -- Iraqi's have voted on their constitution, and apparently passed it -- despite attempts by large blocks of Sunni voters to vote no (not in large enough blocks in enough provinces though) -- with little or no violence during the voting.

While there have been continuing acts of terrorism leading up to the vote, and while security for delivering the ballots to the polling places was extraordinary, the voting itself came off with little or no violence. Sunnis, Shiites and Kurds were all able to get to the polling places if they desired, and were able to vote their consciences. If they really didn't want the constitution to pass they could vote no -- as many Sunnis did in a few provinces. Unfortunately for those Sunnis, who used to rule with Saddam's iron fist from their minority stake, they now find themselves in the minority in the country, and they are having to live in a democracy where their votes are no over-valued in relation to their status in the country.

There's still room for concern that the Sunnis won't accept the vote or the constitution that it leads to. They could instead try to incite a civil war against both the Kurds and Shiites, but doing so could lead to genocide against them as their numbers are completely drowned out by the numbers of their countrymen (and countrywomen). They could choose to continue to bleed off the majority numbers of their neighbors through acts of terror and cowardice, but if they do that and get caught they face death or other severe punishment. If they use suicide attacks, they dwindle their own numbers. And regardless of which potential disruptive tactics they may use, they could very well find themselves squashed by the majority of the country via rule of law or just revenge seekers among the majority.

Iraq seems to be headed for a democractic destiny with no chance of avoiding it now.
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The Iraqis get the constitution they deserve.

That is a good thing.

If the Sunnis won't accept it, they can start a civil war and lose. They can become a part of Syria and the oil stays with the Kurds and Shi'ites. It's their choice. You don't need exclusive political power to lead a happy life. You need peace and stability, and the Shi'ites and Kurds with the help of the US and the UK (and others) can offer that. The fascists cannot.
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There is always the Cindy Sheehans and her ilk.  She is still trying to enslave them as are her buddies.

At least the Iraqis dont have to listen to her.

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The Sunni clerics encouraging opposition to peaceful engagement in the governmental process are doing their followers no favors. I hope they come to their senses soon. Maybe, just maybe, this was their last-gasp effort to derail the train (though pointless violence and acts of terror will continue) and they'll concede "defeat" and get on about the business of living. They would do well to recognize how benignly the majority they once so brutally oppressed are treating them.

Cheers,
Daiwa
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Sunnis, Shiites and Kurds were all able to get to the polling places if they desired, and were able to vote their consciences.


We witnessed a modern miracle in Iraq. From a pipedream, to hope, to reality in under 4 years.

Everyone who loves freedom should be celebrating today!!!
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They would do well to recognize how benignly the majority they once so brutally oppressed are treating them.


That is something that they really should recognize, but they seem to be doing everything possible to ignore it. Would they rather be completely and totally oppressed under a Shiite majority? Or perhaps a Kurdish one?

As things sit, they can participate and have their voices heard peacefully. If they want change it would be their best option. If they try to change things any other way, they are doomed to failure.
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As things sit, they can participate and have their voices heard peacefully. If they want change it would be their best option. If they try to change things any other way, they are doomed to failure

The winds of bin Laden blow strong.  Even as he struggles for life.  We can hope they dont see the thing, but there is no guarantee.  Forrest gump lives and breathes - all over this world.

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Iraq seems to be headed for a democractic destiny with no chance of avoiding it now.


Impossible. Col told me Iraqis don't want freedom and democracy. Why would he lie?

I hope one day when the Iraqis have a fully functional democratic society, that they look back and see people like the liberals, col, and Saddamds friends in France, Germany, and the U.N., would still have them living under Saddam.
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