Separate But Equal

Segregation is still in our society.

from JoeUser Forums

The recent discussions about whether or not homosexuals should be allowed to marry have sparked many to claim that refusing homosexuals the right to wed is equivalent to the segregation laws that took place in the South. After some thought, I realized that segregation still does exist in our world. There are many ways in which segregation still strangles our society, and if we truly want to end this Jim Crow mentality, then we should abolish this behavior that "separate but equal" is all right.


Here are just a few samples of segregation:



  1. Separate bathrooms for males and females.

  2. Separate locker rooms for males and females.

  3. Separate showers for males and females.

  4. Separate departments for males and females in clothing stores.

These are some of the most blatant acts of "separate but equal" facilities to drive a wedge between the genders. I see no difference between segregating bathrooms, locker rooms, gyms, etc. by genders and segregating them by race. It's not as if males and females are unable to use the same bathrooms, clothes, and showers, as they often do in our homes.


So what's the deal? Why do we continue to uphold the will of the KKK and support segregation?

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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top
I for one would totally support men and women sharing bath rooms, showers, etc. ;)
Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top
The only reasonable reason I can come up with for separate departments in stores for men and women is, they don't wear the same clothes--sizes or styles, and that's a pretty good reason if you think of it.. How many guys would want their socks next to womens' pink purses? And how many women would want their bras next to mens' thongs?

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Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top
Can I finally have a gynecologist too !! Separate but equal my azzz! I'm with you 100% Blog on Messy
Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top
Well, I, like Brad, am all for unisex toilet's and locker rooms, but, and let's face it here, the reason there are different departments is because there are different styles.  However, how many men would be willing to wait in the same line women do in order to use a public bathroom?
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Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top
Well, I can see why women and men would have two different bathrooms, etc.,. Men are different than women.

Look at bathroom behaviors: Most men don't talk or even look at each other in bathrooms..It's a quick in, quick out, wash your hands..and get out.
Women go to the bathroom in gaggles..Gossip, etc.,. It's like a social gathering and a pit stop, rolled in one. I don't see that the two behavior patterns would work too well.
Guys would feel uncomfortable being spoke to/around..(not all guys, don't go around protesting my statement. I'm speaking from personal experience, here :p)
And women wouldn't want what little bathroom humor guys have to interrupt their conversations, anyways. Not to mention the possiblity for extreme lewdness. Men and women can't behave as is with things seperate. Just imagine the chaos! lol Would make for interesting noises, for sure. :o>

Seperate departments in stores is so that you can narrow down what you're looking for. Guys (most of them) home in..grab..and go.
Women go on and on and on..Which is okay, just different. You might want to take the time to find your clothes..guys don't need bras and panties interrupting their semi-coherent blinder-induced race to get a new pair of pants. (Yes, I'm being extreme here in the generalizations, but stay with me on this one)

I think you get my point lol We're different, biologically and mentally. I don't think men are any less than woman, but definitly different, ergo..Seperate.
Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top
The first thing the women are going to say is, those ugly things gotta go----urinals i mean!
Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top
Having been in building maintanance for the last forty years I worked,I did a lot of repairs in ladies rooms.The biggest problem I see is in Identifyiny the graffitti. share the urinals I say---charlie poore
Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top
I, too, am fully in support of unisex facilities. Purely for the sake of equality, of course. *coughs loudly*

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Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top
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Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top
Sure, Dan..Sake of Equality... Let me add that to my list of things: How many women would feel safe changing in a room with 6 other men helt bent on getting a free show come hell or high water? lol

And Second of All: How many men would loiter in the unisex bathroom to catch a free show? Work productivity would be DOWN LOL
Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top
I hate sharing the bathroom with anyone. I don't want people smelling me and I sure don't wanna smell them. Keep one thing in mind, we're not dogs, we're people. At least I think some of us still are. GCJ
Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top
Hmm. That would open up to all kinds of peeping tom events. It's also much easier way for sickos to rape women, since they can be in same place, if unosex restroom with more than one factities.
Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top
I think that if the fact that some men might harass women is a valid argument for segregation, then the fact that some homosexual men might harass heterosexual men is a valid argument to segregate people not only by gender, but also by sexuality.
I hate sharing the bathroom with anyone. I don't want people smelling me and I sure don't wanna smell them. Keep one thing in mind, we're not dogs, we're people. At least I think some of us still are. GCJ

That's why I don't use public restrooms.
Reply #15 from JoeUser Forums Top
I read over the responses to this post and I'm assuming you took it all as a joke. I thought it was serious when I read it but now I'm not so sure. Saying that men and women are still segregated is a pretty ridiculous argument, especially since it has nothing to do with gay marriage. I mean, they don't allow 90-year-olds in kindergarten and they don't allow 5-year-olds in nursing homes. Is that segregation? I think separate bathrooms is pretty much because some people would rather not think that some man or woman could just stick their head under a door and see you peeing. Same with showers, dressing rooms, and any other place where a person has an expectation of privacy. But going back to the whole segregation thing, next you'll be saying that churches are segregated because they are divided by religion or that hospitals are segregated because they separate people by severity of injuries. I know, you were just making a joke. I'm just saying some people, myself included, might not realize you're immediately joking. But reading over it now, I say it's pretty funny.
Reply #16 from JoeUser Forums Top
I read over the responses to this post and I'm assuming you took it all as a joke. I thought it was serious when I read it but now I'm not so sure. Saying that men and women are still segregated is a pretty ridiculous argument, especially since it has nothing to do with gay marriage. I mean, they don't allow 90-year-olds in kindergarten and they don't allow 5-year-olds in nursing homes. Is that segregation?


Most 90-year-olds have already finished kindergarten and what kind of nursing home wouldn't allow a five-year-old to see his or her grandparents?

I think separate bathrooms is pretty much because some people would rather not think that some man or woman could just stick their head under a door and see you peeing. Same with showers, dressing rooms, and any other place where a person has an expectation of privacy. But going back to the whole segregation thing, next you'll be saying that churches are segregated because they are divided by religion or that hospitals are segregated because they separate people by severity of injuries. I know, you were just making a joke. I'm just saying some people, myself included, might not realize you're immediately joking. But reading over it now, I say it's pretty funny.


I agree. That's why I think locker rooms, showers, and bathrooms should also be segregated by sexuality. I don't want homosexuals peeping in on me. No reason to disagree, since I'm sure some men and some women would rather not think that some homosexuals could stick their head under the door and see them peeing.
Reply #17 from JoeUser Forums Top
Well, I hate to say this seeing as how I am in favor of gay marriage and opposed to discrimination based on sexuality, race, etc., but you do make a good point about segregation of areas of public exposing. If it was simply a question of privacy so that people's peace of mind was assured then I would not be opposed to it. However, at the same time, as long as no one acts out or does anything unusual, what's wrong with the current system? I mean, a heterosexual person could just as easily peep on someone, the only difference being that they wouldn't enjoy it. Should they have seperate bathrooms for straight male perverts, straight male non-perverts, gay male perverts, gay male non-perverts, straight female perverts, straight female non-perverts, gay female perverts, and gay female non-perverts? I think having pervert and non-pervert rooms is a much better solution than hetero and homosexual rooms.

And the whole 90-year-old and 5-year-old thing was a joke. I was just saying, if you're going to discriminate on something as meaningless as sexuality, why not do it with age as well?
Reply #18 from JoeUser Forums Top
Who's going to wear the Scarlet Letter of Gayness so you know who to let into a bathroom, lockeroom, etc.,.. Are you going to hire someone with Gaydar to sit at the door and say "Hey, you can't go in there, your bathroom is down the hall to the right" ?

Sure, it makes sense, but it becomes crazily unfeasable at that point. :op
Reply #19 from JoeUser Forums Top
There's a problem with contending that differences between men and women fall under the category of "separate but equal."

MEN AND WOMEN ARE NOT EQUAL.

Men urinate standing up; women do not. Different facilities are needed. Men and women have different genital organs. Different levels of privacy are desired (though not by me...). Men wear different clothes from those that women wear. Different sections of the store are allotted.
Reply #20 from JoeUser Forums Top

Men urinate standing up; women do not. Different facilities are needed. Men and women have different genital organs. Different levels of privacy are desired (though not by me...). Men wear different clothes from those that women wear. Different sections of the store are allotted.


In my home, both men and women use toilets. Different levels of privacy might be desired, but why should the majority's desire matter? I'll concede that department stores have decent reasons as to why they separate departments by genders.

Reply #21 from JoeUser Forums Top
why should the majority's desire matter?


It should be considered when designing your restrooms just as a matter of courtesy and convenience, but I don't think it should be mandated by law.