Test..

How liberal are you?

from JoeUser Forums
http://www.dennisprager.com/areyouliberal.html

Just a simple test yet very revealing about the person taking it.

out of the 23 questions I agreed with 2.
politics
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Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top
I agreed with number 6 and number 18.

think it was wrong to war with saddam in the first place.

agree law should stop smoking in public places {resteraunts in this case}
Sins of a Solar Empire: Rebellion
Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top
I only completely agreed with one. (I might give a partial to another.)

Some of the wording is coming from a Conservative slant, though, so I don't think it's a very good test.

Speech codes on college campuses are good and American values are bad.


Shouldn't those be separate?

No culture is morally superior to any other.


If Liberals believe that, then how can "American values (be) bad"?
Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top
#4 by Gene Nash
Sunday, September 25, 2005


Speech codes on college campuses are good and American values are bad.


Shouldn't those be separate?


good point.
No culture is morally superior to any other.


If Liberals believe that, then how can "American values (be) bad"?


um because the left is mind dead? their mantra, america bad has destroyed any sense they had?
Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top
Goose egg hee too!
Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top
6 by drmiler
Sunday, September 25, 2005


Goose egg hee too!


well doc I am MODERATEMAN. heh forgive me? lol
Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top
um because the left is mind dead? their mantra, america bad has destroyed any sense they had?


I didn't mean to imply they don't believe it, just to point out the inconsistency in beliefs.
Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top
8 by Gene Nash
Sunday, September 25, 2005


didn't mean to imply they don't believe it, just to point out the inconsistency in beliefs.


why do you think the left drives me up a wall gene, it's the inconsistancies of their platform and what is sad they do not see it.Just blindly go on their merry way.

btw fuzzy update please.
Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top
and what is sad they do not see it.Just blindly go on their merry way.


My standard response for certain "inconsistencies" people try to point out in the Bible is, "That's not inconsistency; it's complexity." I imagine that would also be the Liberal response to many of their inconsistencies. After all, they are the keepers of the intellectual flame. Complexity is their forte. (And sarcasm is mine....)

fuzzy update please.


Nothing new to report. Conditions are pretty much the same as my last update article. He still occasionally whimpers after going, but not as often.

I do figure he is feeling better, though, because he is getting into major mischief. He also just had his first post-hospital bout of "kitty madness," running from one end of the house to the other, fighting imaginary foes.

They've had me give him an extra week of antibiotics. (Oh the joy of force feeding a cat medicine for three weeks.) He has a follow up/check up Tuesday. They are going to give him some kind of test which requires he not use the bathroom for more than four hours beforehand.So, I'll know more then.
Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top
6 by drmiler
Sunday, September 25, 2005


Goose egg hee too!


well doc I am MODERATEMAN. heh forgive me? lol


Okay....but "just" this "one" time!
LMAO
Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top
They've had me give him an extra week of antibiotics. (Oh the joy of force feeding a cat medicine for three weeks.) He has a follow up/check up Tuesday. They are going to give him some kind of test which requires he not use the bathroom for more than four hours beforehand.So, I'll know more then.


been there done that, had hands repaired surgerically, lmao

good news a cat on the prowl, defending his space even against imaginary foes is a happy cat.
Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top
I never claimed to be libral but I do agree with 19 and 20. 19 as long as it is not the only thing taught. 20 because look at what happened in OK City.
Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top
#13 by lostintexas
Sunday, September 25, 2005


never claimed to be libral but I do agree with 19 and 20. 19 as long as it is not the only thing taught. 20 because look at what happened in OK City.


I would venture to guess agreeing with 2 out of 23 does not a liberal make. heh
Reply #15 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: Awed in Space(Anonymous User)Posted: Sunday, September 25, 2005I agree with only 1. The Death Penalty.


again, agreeing with one or two makes ya more likely to be conservative than liberal.
Reply #16 from JoeUser Forums Top
Bilingual education for children of immigrants, rather than immersion in English, is good for them and for America.

Yes. I don't think it's harmful to America's "melting pot" culture for immigrants to pay homage to their home language and culture.

A married couple should not have more of a right to adopt a child than two men or two women.

Yes. I think there are far more important factors to look at when placing a child than the gender arrangement of the potential parents.

The Israelis and Palestinians are morally equivalent.

I agree.

High schools should make condoms available to students and teach them how to use them.

I think making students aware of the availability of condoms while maintaining a comprehensive, and even abstinence promoting, sex education program is a good way to discourage unsafe sex.

Racial profiling for terrorists is wrong -- a white American grandmother should as likely be searched as a Saudi young male.

It's not so much that racial profiling for terrorists is wrong as it is that we don't want to overlook any other possibilities.

There's five I agreed with. And I agree, the test was very skewed because of the wording.

Texas Wahine = Liberal
Reply #17 from JoeUser Forums Top
Texas Wahine = Liberal


Texas Wahine= wanna be liberal..


last time!!! yer notta liberal.

ya make sense, make common sense decisions, think things throught to there logical outcome.. none of that is liberal thinking!!

now go to yer room and write 1000000 times " I tex am NOT a liberal"
Reply #18 from JoeUser Forums Top
1. Standards for admissions to universities, fire departments, etc. should be lowered for people of color.

No.
2. Bilingual education for children of immigrants, rather than immersion in English, is good for them and for America.

TESL or teaching English as a second language is a good transition program for those already speaking a language other then English. Think of how difficult your spainish, latin, or german classes in your american high school might be if from the first day your teacher taught only in a foreign tongue. Beyond that, bilingual education simply retards the young student's growth into a proficient English speaking citizen.

3. Murderers should never be put to death.

That is correct. Too many times our justice system has put the innocent to death - that punishment cannot be rescinded and our consequences should make room for human error.

4. During the Cold War, America should have adopted a nuclear arms freeze.

Absolutely.

5. Colleges should not allow ROTC programs.

Private Colleges should have their choice, of course, but ROTC is a major benefit, particularly to those wishing to keep their student costs down.

6. It was wrong to wage war against Saddam Hussein in the Gulf War.

Had Donald Rumsfield not given 50 million dollars in aid to Saddam, perhaps he would not have had enough money to fund an army to invade the country he owed interest on loans to.

Bottom line, we should not have had to deal with the situation in the first place.

7. Poor parents should not be allowed to have vouchers to send their children to private schools.

Good luck getting the federal government, or even further yet, state and local governments to cough up the money for everyone's child to go to the top private school in the area. Vouchers are a great but inherently flawed concept designed to simply make it a more feasible option for parents who can already afford private institutions.

8. It is good that trial lawyers and teachers unions are the two biggest contributors to the Democratic Party.

Is it great that oil companies and big defense contractors are the largest investments made by members from the Republican party? Of course not, the parties should beholden unto the people, but the people have become apathetic, so here we are. Seriously, however, how dangerous are teachers and trial lawyers? (don't answer this question if you're a juvenile delinquent)

9. Marriage should be redefined from male-female to any two people.

Of course not.

10. A married couple should not have more of a right to adopt a child than two men or two women.

Evidence supporting one over the other needs to be provided for an accurate assessment of this scenario.

11. The Boy Scouts should not be allowed to use parks or any other public places and should be prohibited from using churches and synagogues for their meetings.

It is the choice of the caretakers of those places, presently, to allow the presence of the scouts Mr. Muckraker.

12. The present high tax rates are good.

I suppose we don't get what we pay for. High Pork Barrel spending has led to record deficets. If one doesn't care about America going further and further in to debt and the consequences that follow then let's take the current graduated tax and simply abolish it for every one.

13. Speech codes on college campuses are good and American values are bad.

Speech codes are an admonishment to 1st Amendment Freedoms but not necessarily at odds with 'American Values'.

14. The Israelis and Palestinians are morally equivalent.
Actually, yeah, I kinda' think the bullshit is equally deep on both sides and I don't care WHO started it, it needs to stop. (oh, yeah, we helped institute the state of Isreal pissing off the Palestinians after World War 2).

15. The United Nations is a moral force for good in the world, and therefore America should be subservient to it and such international institutions as a world court.

Certainly a question begging for discussion and much more worthy of something more then yes / no answers. Let's not 'O'Reilly-ize' this.
16. It is good that colleges have dropped hundreds of men's sports teams in order to meet gender-based quotas.

Nope.
17. No abortions can be labeled immoral.

Morals are personal, ethics are supposedly universal. So this is a personal decision without absolutes to judge 'correct' answers by. I personally believe nearly all abortions to be a morally incorrect decision.

18. Restaurants should be prohibited by law from allowing customers to choose between a smoking and a non-smoking section.

People should make the decision through their local and state representatives to set community standards, though I personally believe the business owners themselves should be able to make the decision..

19. High schools should make condoms available to students and teach them how to use them.

It should be parents' decision if they cared enough to engage in instructing their children they will care enough to have their children opt out or engage in changing law to allow children to graduate without the 'health class' credit.


20. Racial profiling for terrorists is wrong -- a white American grandmother should as likely be searched as a Saudi young male.

Yep.

21. Racism and poverty -- not a lack of fathers and a crisis of values -- are the primary causes of violent crime in the inner city.

There are many contributing factors, but racism is hardly one of them.

22. It is wrong and unconstitutional for students to be told, "God bless you" at their graduation.

How about ending the graduating ceremony with 'Praise Allah'? No? Why? How about a majority vote? No? Because it's too much trouble? Is that why most schoolboards simply avoid the situation?

23. No culture is morally superior to any other.

I guess it depends upon the qualifiers...but really, have you *seen* American culture these days?


Reply #19 from JoeUser Forums Top
#19 by Deference
Sunday, September 25, 2005


hiiiiiiii deference, nice to see yer name around.

looks like you are the most liberal so far.
Reply #20 from JoeUser Forums Top
Hello, Moderateman.

Most liberal around so far! That's a trolling point right there, buddy!



Just kidding, it's nice to see all 'the gang' here. I simply hope I never run in to Sir Peter...
Reply #21 from JoeUser Forums Top
the wording is a little sketchy...

1. Bilingual education for children of immigrants, rather than immersion in English, is good for them and for America.
2. Murderers should never be put to death.
3. It was wrong to wage war against Saddam Hussein in the Gulf War.
4. Marriage should be redefined from male-female to any two people.
5. A married couple should not have more of a right to adopt a child than two men or two women.
6. The Israelis and Palestinians are morally equivalent.
7. High schools should make condoms available to students and teach them how to use them.
8. Racial profiling for terrorists is wrong -- a white American grandmother should as likely be searched as a Saudi young male.
9. Racism and poverty -- not a lack of fathers and a crisis of values -- are the primary causes of violent crime in the inner city.
10. No culture is morally superior to any other.

Even some of those I am hesitant to say yes to--but if you ignore the spin and look at what they are really going for--this is my response.
Reply #22 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: DeferencePosted: Sunday, September 25, 2005Hello, Moderateman.Most liberal around so far! That's a trolling point right there, buddy! Just kidding, it's nice to see all 'the gang' here. I simply hope I never run in to Sir Peter...


I do believe sir petah! has been exiled {thank God}

oh yeh old joeusers do not die we just blog away! lol
Reply #23 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: shadesofgreyPosted: Sunday, September 25, 2005the wording is a little sketchy...1. Bilingual education for children of immigrants, rather than immersion in English, is good for them and for America. 2. Murderers should never be put to death. 3. It was wrong to wage war against Saddam Hussein in the Gulf War. 4. Marriage should be redefined from male-female to any two people. 5. A married couple should not have more of a right to adopt a child than two men or two women. 6. The Israelis and Palestinians are morally equivalent. 7. High schools should make condoms available to students and teach them how to use them. 8. Racial profiling for terrorists is wrong -- a white American grandmother should as likely be searched as a Saudi young male. 9. Racism and poverty -- not a lack of fathers and a crisis of values -- are the primary causes of violent crime in the inner city. 10. No culture is morally superior to any other. Even some of those I am hesitant to say yes to--but if you ignore the spin and look at what they are really going for--this is my response.


thank you for playing "who's the most liberal" heh, I could not really decifer what you were saying yes or no to, remember I am a conservative/moderate and I need things spelled out slowly. use small words . lmao
Reply #24 from JoeUser Forums Top
thank you for playing "who's the most liberal" heh, I could not really decifer what you were saying yes or no to, remember I am a conservative/moderate and I need things spelled out slowly. use small words . lmao


I was sort of saying yes to those ten. The wording is weird--for example, I don't really want "marriage" changed, but I believe in civil union--so I said yes. I answered in the spirit of the question.
Reply #25 from JoeUser Forums Top
#25 by shadesofgrey
Sunday, September 25, 2005


was sort of saying yes to those ten. The wording is weird--for example, I don't really want "marriage" changed, but I believe in civil union--so I said yes. I answered in the spirit of the question.


there is no doubt in my mind you are a liberal shades, and I say this with the most RESPECT I can muster, I have found you to be kind, level headed and not obnoxious about your politics, you stand up for your beliefs and are not shy about firing back on us um not liberals, heh

You have earned my respect and best wishes.

elie