Did someone forget to tell Cindy Sheehan that Bush is away?

cindy has become a parody of the hanoijane fonda model for protesting. sad.

The president may not be in Washington, but as long as the press is their treating her like a rock star, she's fat and happy.

She has really fallen off the national radar though. Damn hurricanes and all...

Bush knows what she is doing and so do millions of other Americans. It is only a matter of time until the Iraq War will be back on the front page. It is a storm that will make Katrina and Rita look small.

look small.

Almost as small as a certain little man, right Gene?

I enjoy the venom directed at Cindy Sheehan by mindless warhawks. Their hatred for vocal dissidents who have seen personal loss exposes them as simple emotional individuals simply backing 'their team' refusing to give ground and immediately zeroing in on any that may threaten 'their guy'.

'Flakey' is hardly the term I would use to describe Mrs. Sheehan (yeah, she's actually married, just thought I'd keep everyone up on the matter of fact issues that often clouds warmonger's heads). A dedicated mother who has suffered tragic loss goes cross country to petition the president and raise her objection to his administration's poor decisions whilst putting her life on hold. Flakey? More like a deeply committed individual replete with strong convictions.

Today (Sept. 25, 2005), Cindy Sheehan and a growing body of war protestors including self described republicans marched on Washington numbering almost 100,000 strong.

A counter protest group supporting Bush's Iraq policy met at the marine memorial nearby - their numbers: approximately 150 members.

Fewer and fewer people support the Iraq war as knowledge of it's beginnings filters out to people (no - Iraq didn't attack us on 9/11 - I'm still running into that...) and fewer and fewer people remain hawks as they pay a price they see no return benefit from.

"'Flakey' is hardly the term I would use to describe Mrs. Sheehan (yeah, she's actually married, just thought I'd keep everyone up on the matter of fact issues that often clouds warmonger's heads). "

Hmm, call me nuts, but

"Am I emotional? Yes, my first born was murdered. Am I angry? Yes, he was killed for lies and for a PNAC Neo-Con agenda to benefit Israel. My son joined the Army to protect America, not Israel."

= flakey.

Yep, again, just my opinion, but...

"George Bush needs to stop talking, admit the mistakes of his all around failed administration, pull our troops out of occupied New Orleans and Iraq, and excuse his self from power."

= flakey.

I could go on for hours...

The online defn. of "flakey" describes the slang term as one who is eccentric or odd. Some may believe that failure to follow the agenda and act passionatly is a bit odd in these apathetic times.

I had always held "flakey" as a synonym for "shallow" - again, I don't think that accurately describes Mrs. Sheehan. Perhaps you ascribe to a different definition of "flakey".

Perhaps it goes like this; Flakey: one adamantly out of step with current administration policies and speaks out against them on a regular basis.

Close to the mark?

As for Mrs. Sheehan's PNAC remark, I think you may remember this letter from the Project for a New American Century to Bill Clinton in September of 1998:

http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm

Individuals signing the letter of particular note are Paul Wolfowitz and Donald Rumsfield.

The rest are:

Elliott Abrams Richard L. Armitage William J. Bennett

Jeffrey Bergner John Bolton Paula Dobriansky

Francis Fukuyama Robert Kagan Zalmay Khalilzad

William Kristol Richard Perle Peter W. Rodman

William Schneider, Jr. Vin Weber

R. James Woolsey Robert B. Zoellick


Dick Cheney was a co-founder of PNAC. It is remarkable that many of these people just happen to be in the White House today working to insure administrative policies reflect PNAC whims.

Good to see you're still here, Bakerstreet.

Today (Sept. 25, 2005), Cindy Sheehan and a growing body of war protestors including self described republicans marched on Washington numbering almost 100,000 strong.

Could you please provide a link to your real numbers for the protest.

While the MSM has yet to even post an estimate, but the DC police department report says that the only activity for the day was to keep the less then 5,000 Anti-war protestors seperate from the 3,000 War supporters.

Here you go, good to see you Lee.

"Police Chief Charles H. Ramsey, noting that organizers had hoped to draw 100,000 people, said, "I think they probably hit that."

"Supporters of Bush's policy in Iraq assembled in smaller numbers to get their voice heard in the day's anti-war din. About 150 of them rallied at the
U.S. Navy Memorial."


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050925/ap_on_re_us/war_protest

Well, Lee, I'm having trouble getting the link to work here at JU.

If you go to the yahoo news section, the title of the piece is:

Anti-War Demonstrators March on Washington

by...

JENNIFER C. KERR, Associated Press Writer

If you would like, I can simply repost the article here.

Let me know if you cannot reach the source and I will repost it.

try this link....

Link

Fact is, it really doesn't matter that dubya was out of town. Were it not for the hurricane, he'd likely be at his ranch, rather than face Cindy in DC. She's no fool. She knows that, along with everyone else.

What is more important that dubya being out of town, as he is but a stupid empty soul anyway, is that the rest of government, Congress and the Judiciary see the numbers of people who are against the war and this neocon administration. I think 100,000 is a pretty respectable showing of people, whether dubya was out of town, or not.

To denigrate Sheehan because dubya was out of town is so missing the point, it's ridiculous. But, that is so typical of a neocon supporter. Points and facts are meaningless.

Terptan 1980

You must be talking about Bush and those that support him when you say "Small Minds" They are also dangerous.

Reuters article about the demonstration Link

National Park Service officials said they were not tallying the crowd size, but authorities with the Washington police said the organizers may have reached their predicted turnout of 100,000 protesters. The demonstrators traveled to the capital from around the country to take part in a showcase demonstration that marched past the White House and the US Capitol.

Ya'll missed 2 key words here!

The online defn. of "flakey" describes the slang term as one who is eccentric or odd. Some may believe that failure to follow the agenda and act passionatly is a bit odd in these apathetic times. I had always held "flakey" as a synonym for "shallow" - again, I don't think that accurately describes Mrs. Sheehan. Perhaps you ascribe to a different definition of "flakey". Perhaps it goes like this; Flakey: one adamantly out of step with current administration policies and speaks out against them on a regular basis. Close to the mark?

Not even deference! But here's the "current" meaning. All of which could be used to describe her.

Conspicuously or grossly unconventional or unusual - bizarre, eccentric, freakish, freaky, flakey, gonzo [N. Amer], off-the-wall, outlandish, outré

If a tree falls in the woods and there is the whole Washington press corp there to report it, yet only a hand full of close shot pictures, did it realy happen?

Even with the Rita coverage, every news agency has this as a foot note. Even the NY Times, Boston Globe, and LA Times does not have it noted on the front page.

It is interesting that the only wide shots of the national mall has empty areas of crosses, picture on the ground, and vending booths. It looks like it was well organized, but the turn out is much lower then 100,000. There is an average of 20,000 tourist there on a cloudy day. I think that 100,000 is to repersent world wide, not just DC.

If your wanting to say "Well the press was busy else where". That don't hold water. Check out the picture of Cindy with her trademark puppy dog eyes, and her face between the fence bars at the Whitehouse. She was sitting in a sea of reporter, microphones, and cameras.

Big fucking deal. and a yawn to boot.

Good to see you again too, Deference.

Dick Cheney was a co-founder of PNAC. It is remarkable that many of these people just happen to be in the White House today working to insure administrative policies reflect PNAC whims.

Yes, you see to the folks on the Left the Iraq war is all about proctecting the "dirty joos!". "Dick Cheney must be in league with Israel. Down with the Zionists" and all that right? Made it interesting to watch the White power movement coalesce their support for Sheehan. (Who is as flakey as a bowl of cereal by the way).

Nice to see that COL Gene et al can't wait for this nasty bit of hurricane coverage to stop in the hopes that the media will pay attention to a very tired story again. The people looked at Cindy and saw a woman wracked with grief who is sadly no longer balanced. They also saw extreme left wing organizations take advantage of this. They didn't like it.

Here you go, good to see you Lee.

Thanks Def, and good to here from you too.

and thanks Mano also for your link.

Articles on this subject is hard to find, but I am sure that the Rightwing radio talk show hoste will be all over this with their own number on Monday. Just to muddy the waters even more, ya know.

I may just have to split the difference if their numbers are solid.

and thanks Mano also for your link.

anytime....

Not even deference! But here's the "current" meaning. All of which could be used to describe her.

A war protestor who's son has died in Iraq is
conspicuously or grossly unconventional or unusual; bizarre, eccentric, freakish, freaky, flakey, gonzo [N. Amer], off-the-wall, and outlandish?

Only in warhawk land where docile lemmings willingly goose - step their way to unrationalized death.

To me it seems very conventional and not at all off the wall that one person affected by a tragic personal loss will turn against the cause for it.

For other cases where this is exemplified see the Lance Armstrong and Christopher Reeves stories.

War Supporters Follow Anti-War Rallies

By ELISABETH GOODRIDGE, Associated Press Writer



To the west, near the Washington Monument, workers were taking down the stage used for Saturday's marathon anti-war protest that attracted 100,000 people according to police estimates.

A few hundred people in a counter demonstration in support of Bush's Iraq policy lined the protest route near the
FBI building. The two groups, separated by a police line, shouted at each other.

If anyone can provide additional links as to the supposed number count, that would be wonderful. Perhaps we'll have a better idea of how many people were there.

I'm only asking for this to give us a better idea of the actual numbers. One never knows with the media, I find I actually have to read a story many times from several different sources before I feel I've got a semi-accurate picture of an event.Link