Why does it always come down to ABORTION?

a TEASING TEX BUMP.

What else do you expect from a losing party?

Because they look at Michael Moore and HIllary and say... "This is what makes it through when we leave abortion up to the states? Never again!!!" ;~D

#2 by Island Dog Tuesday, September 13, 2005

What else do you expect from a losing party?

more than this, try to remwember the left WAS my party for 36 years.

3 by ParaTed2k Tuesday, September 13, 2005

Because they look at Michael Moore and HIllary and say... "This is what makes it through when we leave abortion up to the states? Never again!!!" ;~D

ooooooooooooooo a great PUTDOWN, I love it.

It's a sign of our priorities. With all the horrors at hand in the world, the lynchpin issue for these secretary-banging boozehounds is ALWAYS going to be whether they can affordably cover their indescretions. Do you really think pappa Ted gives a damn about women's rights? Hell no, it is HIS right to go and quietly have an embarassment 'taken care of' should the need arise.

Pardon my french, but Biden is an asshole of grand scale. I've been watching for the last half hour or so, and he's done nothing but partisan bulldog garbage. He has on three or four occasions interrupted him, and then defended it by saying he already knew what he we going to answer. I can't believe a Democrat with half a brain could watch his behavior and not be completely embarassed.

It goes to show how fair we are in the US that someone from such a piddly state could be such a mouth in the Senate.

and adhering to president.

I hope you meant " precedent"

IG

Pardon my french, but Biden is an asshole of grand scale. I've been watching for the last half hour or so, and he's done nothing but partisan bulldog garbage. He has on three or four occasions interrupted him, and then defended it by saying he already knew what he we going to answer. I can't believe a Democrat with half a brain could watch his behavior and not be completely embarassed.

baker 1/2 brain? you give the left to much credit! heh.

good points btw.

7 by InfoGeek Tuesday, September 13, 2005

and adhering to president. I hope you meant " precedent" IG

point taken and corrected thank you for the kind and gentle correction.

MM

I know...weird, ain't it? Of all the things they find wrong with this country, abortion is the one the want to pound away on.

For me, at least, a lot of what is wrong with the Left does come down to abortion.... because of the hypocrisy.
This is the side, after all, that vehemently opposes the Death Penalty in virtually all cases. It is also the side that takes under its robes the animal rights whackos, who would save a deer at the expense of a hunter; the environmentalists who stand in the way of bulldozers to save a snail or insect in danger of having its habitat erased to make way for a hospital or houses.
They also try and claim the mantle of 'compassion' and 'right-to-life', but think absolutely nothing of killing an utterly innocent, barely formed child. Notice that I didn't call it a fetus.
Maybe not what you're aiming at, Modman, but just a few thoughts from me.

It's interesting to me that only men responded to this article.

Personally, the right to choose what I do with my own body is central to my political affliations. It's not a method for grand-standing the political area, or throwing a wrench in an otherwise effective political structure--it is something that honestly effects me and my rights.

So while it may not be that important to you--it is very important to some of us.

But it's not the only thing that the left is doing--currently the Democrats have brought the Mercury pollution rules to the floor of the Senate--so,the same could be asked of you: why are you focused on only one issue?

Also, MM--you'd get more flies with honey than vinegar. Insulting all democrats (by calling them base) is probably not a good way to open a discussion (if that's what you were after).

#10 by Right winger Tuesday, September 13, 2005

They also try and claim the mantle of 'compassion' and 'right-to-life', but think absolutely nothing of killing an utterly innocent, barely formed child. Notice that I didn't call it a fetus. Maybe not what you're aiming at, Modman, but just a few thoughts from me.

I call it a child too. and not really aiming at anything, just showing the hypocrisy of the left.

#11 by shadesofgrey Tuesday, September 13, 2005

It's interesting to me that only men responded to this article. Personally, the right to choose what I do with my own body is central to my political affliations. It's not a method for grand-standing the political area, or throwing a wrench in an otherwise effective political structure--it is something that honestly effects me and my rights. So while it may not be that important to you--it is very important to some of us. But it's not the only thing that the left is doing--currently the Democrats have brought the Mercury pollution rules to the floor of the Senate--so,the same could be asked of you: why are you focused on only one issue? Also, MM--you'd get more flies with honey than vinegar. Insulting all democrats (by calling them base) is probably not a good way to open a discussion (if that's what you were after).

first point. I support a womans right to choose, I do not have to like it.

second point. With all the horror happening in america why is the judicial commitee concentrating on abortion?

point three. with all the trasshing of rightwing people here I feel it's fine to trash the left.

As soon as I see you chastize the left the same way you chastize me I will stop.

I think it is hypocritical that some think "a woman's right to choose what she does with her own body" is the same as "a woman's right to choose what to do with an unborn child." As if the child is universally accepted as being some vestigial organ until it pops out.

If you could convince me a fetus is no more than an unnecessary part of a woman's body, I might agree. There's no great "truth" that makes it so, though, and pretending we all agree on that is a blind spot to pro-abortion folks. They accept it as a given fact, when in reality, it is far more than just debatable.

#14 by BakerStreet Tuesday, September 13, 2005

I think it is hypocritical that some think "a woman's right to choose what she does with her own body" is the same as "a woman's right to choose what to do with an unborn child." As if the child is universally accepted as being some vestigial organ until it pops out.

so do I baker. But the left has no real issues or stances to take so the abortion issue will have to do them.

I think it is hypocritical that some think "a woman's right to choose what she does with her own body" is the same as "a woman's right to choose what to do with an unborn child." As if the child is universally accepted as being some vestigial organ until it pops out. If you could convince me a fetus is no more than an unnecessary part of a woman's body, I might agree. There's no great "truth" that makes it so, though, and pretending we all agree on that is a blind spot to pro-abortion folks. They accept it as a given fact, when in reality, it is far more than just debatable.

Ditto.

'right-to-life'

Oops...sorry..have to retract that one. It's us.
What I meant to say was that they're supposed to have all the concern for humanity. Sorry.

I think it is hypocritical that some think "a woman's right to choose what she does with her own body" is the same as "a woman's right to choose what to do with an unborn child." As if the child is universally accepted as being some vestigial organ until it pops out. If you could convince me a fetus is no more than an unnecessary part of a woman's body, I might agree. There's no great "truth" that makes it so, though, and pretending we all agree on that is a blind spot to pro-abortion folks. They accept it as a given fact, when in reality, it is far more than just debatable.

Bakerstreet--we are never going to agree on this issue. I was answering the question MM presented from my point of view. You did see the word "personally", right? To me, it is an extremely important issue because I believe it is about a woman's right to choose. I have yet to be convinced that the fetus has a soul.

As soon as I see you chastize the left the same way you chastize me I will stop.

I wasn't chastizing you, merely pointing out why a lot from the "other" side might not want to comment.

16 by HC... Tuesday, September 13, 2005

Ditto

I see your ditto and raise you 2 exactlies!

I support a womans right to choose, I do not have to like it.

---Modman

I agree....besides, you 'choose' (barring rape, of course) to engage in the sex act, too. No matter what kind of protection is used, there's always the chance of failure.
As someone once said "if you're adult enough to make'em, you're adult enough to raise'em." Call that old-fashioned, but it's what I believe.

I think it is hypocritical that some think "a woman's right to choose what she does with her own body" is the same as "a woman's right to choose what to do with an unborn child." As if the child is universally accepted as being some vestigial organ until it pops out.

If you could convince me a fetus is no more than an unnecessary part of a woman's body, I might agree. There's no great "truth" that makes it so, though, and pretending we all agree on that is a blind spot to pro-abortion folks. They accept it as a given fact, when in reality, it is far more than just debatable.

---Baker

Well put.

#17 by Rightwinger Tuesday, September 13, 2005

Oops...sorry..have to retract that one. It's us. What I meant to say was that they're supposed to have all the concern for humanity. Sorry.

yeh right! heh.

20 by Rightwinger Tuesday, September 13, 2005

support a womans right to choose, I do not have to like it. ---Modman I agree....besides, you 'choose' (barring rape, of course) to engage in the sex act, too. No matter what kind of protection is used, there's always the chance of failure. As someone once said "if you're adult enough to make'em, you're adult enough to raise'em." Call that old-fashioned, but it's what I believe.

while I agree in principle I still support a womans right to choose.

wasn't chastizing you, merely pointing out why a lot from the "other" side might not want to comment.

ok shades, I appreciate the pointing out then.

But I never expect the other side to comment. they are afraid of the truth and cannot stand it in the light of day {most not all}

If they cannot figure out a way to blame bush they have no comment.

ok shades, I appreciate the pointing out then. But I never expect the other side to comment. they are afraid of the truth and cannot stand it in the light of day {most not all} If they cannot figure out a way to blame bush they have no comment.

MM--I'm the other side--did you see me blame bush? Do I appear to be afraid of the truth?

But if you don't want "us" to comment, I'll bud out.

It keeps coming down to abortion because like certain people on this site who shall remain nameless (colon gene). They are fast becoming "one trick ponies"!