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Global Warming vs. Pirates

Global Warming vs. Pirates


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The people who blame global warming on CO2 emissions have a lot in common with the people who claim that intelligent design is a "theory". Which is ironic since they politically disagree on almost everything else.

Whenever I get into a discussion on global warming with someone in person, they are almost always, universally, completely devoid of first-hand knowledge on global climate history, other factors that can cause the warming and cooling of the earth.  They often sound, remarkably, like the people who come to my door trying to "save" me.  They refer to various unnamed "scientists" and "experts" who have told them what to think and therefore believe it. 

I can be talked into believing that the Earth's temperature has risen in the past several decades. But I am not convinced that it has anything to do with CO2 emissions.  There's very little evidence that the earth's atmosphere has warmed any measurable amount globally.  But surface temperatures are a different thing.  Urban sprawl and humans covering increasing percentages of the earth's surface with cement and other heat-sink materials could certainly create local increases in temperature.  Go into a city in the summer and you can definitely feel it. 

Incidentally, I'm not arguing that human habitation of the surface is causing global warming either.  I am saying that there may be other explanations to it -- if it's happening.  We are, btw, in an inter-glacial period.  That is, we are actually currently in an ice age. The earth is currently cooler than it has typically been when looking at the earth historically over the past 100 million years.

We simply don't know very much on global climate yet.  That doesn't mean we shouldn't try to decrease our impact on the environment. We should try to cut down all our impacts whether that be CO2 emissions, sulfur emissions, CFCs, etc.  But we shouldn't do it because of global warming.  We should do it because we simply don't know what impact it will have on the environment.

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Reply #26 Top
Which, like so many other issues, depends upon your social or political views.


there is definitely some truth to that. I choose to accept the findings of the vast majority of scientists who warn of global warming. It seems that a vast majority of republicans buy into the admin's denials and report fixings in order to not have to deal with the problem and spend the money it takes to address the issue today. Unfortunately, money that is not spent today will be spent one hundred fold in the future to mitigate the impacts, if in fact they can be mitigated. That is shortsightedness, and it's how this dubya regime does business.
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It seems that a vast majority of republicans buy into the admin's denials and report fixings


Based on the findings of untold numbers of scientists who don't look at the data the same way as the hysterical, enviro whacko scientists your side believes.
There is no "vast majority of scientists" on either side, dabe. For every one of your hysterics, there's one or two on our side who can find a natural explanation and/or refutation of the whole theory.
Stop believing your own propaganda, sweetie......Keanu Reeves, Tim Robbins and Pamela Anderson aren't scientists.
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Dozens of Asian fishermen and their three vessels are being held hostage in Somalia by pirates who have demanded a $1.5 million ransom, officials said.

Taiwan's Foreign Affairs Ministry has said that the Somali gunmen threatened Friday to start killing one hostage a day if the ransom was not paid within 48 hours. The hostages consist of three Taiwanese captains and 45 crew members from Indonesia, China, the Philippines and Vietnam who have been held near the southern port of Kismayo since Aug. 15.

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17 pirates are holding 48 sailors and 3 ships hostage? should we buy warmer jackets?
Reply #29 Top
I say we get Bob Dole to come out and say CO2 emissions cause ED. The streets would be flooded with men on bikes.


But then they'd all get testicular cancer.
Reply #30 Top
But then they'd all get testicular cancer.


not if we had every bike seat in america retrofitted with little co2 powered scrotum coolers
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if you really believe that there are only 17 pirates put it to the test by sailing a slow boat through the Straits of Malacca or the Horn of Africa. Bodgy data I reckon:-)
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Yes, Draginol, CO2 is but one culprit. Methance and CFCs and HCFCs are exponentially better at trapping heat than CO2.

I'll have to give the pirate theory some thought, however. One never can be too sure of the exact cause of anything ... I think the inverse relationship with chastity belts/global warming needs to be given some consideration too ...

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I'll have to give the pirate theory some thought, however

That is how the alarmist use science.  Remember that next time the sky starts to fall.