People need to stop acting like they are owed.

SEE what entitlements HAVE WROUGHT

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While watching the horror in New Orleans unfold I was struck by several things.

That our government DOES NOT have a handle on disasters, be it of the natural kind or man made {terrorist}
They have been slow in responding and allowed lawlessness to run amok. I am dissappointed in the response time lag.

Then watched as the poor blacks in New Orleans DEMANDED food, money, water.

No they did not ask for help. They behaved like since we are being taken care of by the government, we are entitled to help.

Give me this, give me that.

It's your job to take care of me.

This is the result of generations of people on welfare, they can no longer look out for themselves, they HAVE to be cared for by the rest of us. I for one am tired of having people, DEMAND i take care of them because they are to lazy, to stupid, strung out on drugs or spit babies out with no thought for the child's future.

These same folk DEMANDING aid instead of asking for help are nothing but a drain on society.

I watched looting, now fires in my opinion being set, just to watch things burn.

Black leaders saying if the cities white people needed things they would already be there and the reason things are taking so long is because of covert racism.

I watch the left use this tragedy as another way to launch attacks against the president, the left and black leaders should be ashamed of using this horrific event as a tool for partisan behavior.

I have never been ashamed to be an american but today I am ashamed and disgusted.
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I am as well.  And thank you for my next item.  Did you get the Best movie line I sent?
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Some of these people haven't had food, water, or bathroom facilities for three days. They are tired, hot, hungary, have lost everything they have ever had. They don't have anywhere to go or anyway to get there if they did. I don't think there is anything wrong with wanting the government to provide the basics for survival after a natural disaster. The government should be providing food and water at minimum.

That being said there is something completely wrong with people thinking that shooting at the military helicopters, running amok, stealing guns and electronics. That certainly isn't helping anyone or anything. Actually I think it will severely hurt fund raising efforts. I know that when I see the thugs on TV, I want to be assured that my donation isn't going to help them except maybe into handcuffs.
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pathetic government apologists. Sheesh............
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#1 by Dr. Guy
Friday, September 02, 2005


I am as well. And thank you for my next item. Did you get the Best movie line I sent?


have not read my email yet will get to it.
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2 by Locamama
Friday, September 02, 2005


Some of these people haven't had food, water, or bathroom facilities for three days. They are tired, hot, hungary, have lost everything they have ever had. They don't have anywhere to go or anyway to get there if they did. I don't think there is anything wrong with wanting the government to provide the basics for survival after a natural disaster. The government should be providing food and water at minimum.

That being said there is something completely wrong with people thinking that shooting at the military helicopters, running amok, stealing guns and electronics. That certainly isn't helping anyone or anything. Actually I think it will severely hurt fund raising efforts. I know that when I see the thugs on TV, I want to be assured that my donation isn't going to help them except maybe into handcuffs.


I know this loco, but when did it become mine and you JOB to help? To DEMAND HELP IS ridiculous, to ask is human. I will help because I was asked, not because I have to.
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3 by dabe
Friday, September 02, 2005


pathetic government apologists. Sheesh............


could you be a little more specific? I aploigize for no ones behavior but my own, I am ashamed to see the government hapless and helpless.
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I know this loco, but when did it become mine and you JOB to help? To DEMAND HELP IS ridiculous, to ask is human. I will help because I was asked, not because I have to.

Exactly.

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The problem is, there ARE people in government whose job it is mitigation, preparedness, response and recovery before, during and after a disaster. People should expect them to do their jobs.

On the other hand, down in the disaster area there are too many people who didn't listen to the government before the disaster, and now blame the government for their own poor decisions.

Yes, one of the apparent gaping holes in the emergency plan was evacuation of people who don't have the means to get out of the area or to shelters. Just think how much more smoothly this would run if all the rescue workers had to worry about were those who couldn't get out.

Government promises certain things, and the people have every right to expect what is promised... however, Emergency Services is not about hand holding, it is about working the problem.
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The problem is, there ARE people in government whose job it is mitigation, preparedness, response and recovery before, during and after a disaster. People should expect them to do their jobs.


It was my understanding that many of the reserves that would have been there are now off in Iraq. No one could predict the future.

On the other hand, down in the disaster area there are too many people who didn't listen to the government before the disaster, and now blame the government for their own poor decisions.


There was only what? 12-18 hours notice to empty a million plus people on a few select highways. That would be tough in anyone's book,especially for those with no car.
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What Americans should be ashamed is the responses of Dr Guy; moderatemen and ParaTed2k. You are all pathetic excuses for human beings. God save this country for the likes of you people.
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There was only what? 12-18 hours notice to empty a million plus people on a few select highways. That would be tough in anyone's book,especially for those with no car.

There was about 2 days.  The storm was headed for a bullseye on NO until the last 6 hours when it veered east.

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What Americans should be ashamed is the responses of Dr Guy; moderatemen and ParaTed2k. You are all pathetic excuses for human beings. God save this country for the likes of you people.

Sorry, if you demand, I dont give. If you ask, I am very generous.  You are off my charity list, which since you are a charity case, is your bad.

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The difference between my response and yours COLON GENE, was mine was the informed response coming from experience and yours was the fart of a Hyperactive Colon.


Slander:
It was my understanding that many of the reserves that would have been there are now off in Iraq. No one could predict the future.


Good reply, but I wasn't refering to the military, I was refering to the Emergency Management Officials, Emergency Services, Mayors and Governors. Emergency Management is a local responsibility.

There was only what? 12-18 hours notice to empty a million plus people on a few select highways. That would be tough in anyone's book,especially for those with no car.


Yes, but look how many people chose not to respond to the call for evacuation. Yes, as I've said before, there were holes in the Emergency Management Plan and one of the gaping ones was evacuation... Especially of those who do not own cars. Imagine how much smaller the problem would have been if the rescue could focus on those who couldn't evacuate instead of including those who could, but chose not to.

It is not uncommon for people who live in cities to rely solely on mass transit to get around, any Emergency Protocols for evacuation should have reflected that.
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What Americans should be ashamed is the responses of Dr Guy; moderatemen and ParaTed2k. You are all pathetic excuses for human beings. God save this country for the likes of you people.


You know what, I've about had enough of you. As far as I know, all three of the men you mentioned have gone into combat situations to defend your dumb ass. they've endured things that you can only imagine so that you say sit on your arse and sling insults at them. They are more American than you will ever be, because they've put their money where their mouths are and they've GONE and DONE instead of just talked.

YOU and your ilk are what's wrong with America. You epitomize everything that's dragging this country down. All you do is blame blame blame, and you blame anyone but yourself.
You make me want to hurl.

Sorry, MM, but I am thoroughly dusgusted with his attitude and his insistence on making EVERYTHING anti-government and anti-Bush.
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Male Pattern Baldness and Erectile Dysfunction are Bush's fault too, yanno.


Really? can I sue him? Now where is John Edwards when you need him? Has anyone heard from him since November 2004? Maybe he is with Dick Cheney. Ya think Dabe?
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Reply By: ParaTed2kPosted: Friday, September 02, 2005The problem is, there ARE people in government whose job it is mitigation, preparedness, response and recovery before, during and after a disaster. People should expect them to do their jobs.On the other hand, down in the disaster area there are too many people who didn't listen to the government before the disaster, and now blame the government for their own poor decisions.Yes, one of the apparent gaping holes in the emergency plan was evacuation of people who don't have the means to get out of the area or to shelters. Just think how much more smoothly this would run if all the rescue workers had to worry about were those who couldn't get out.Government promises certain things, and the people have every right to expect what is promised... however, Emergency Services is not about hand holding, it is about working the problem.


wonderfull synopsis ted.
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Reply By: COL GenePosted: Friday, September 02, 2005What Americans should be ashamed is the responses of Dr Guy; moderatemen and ParaTed2k. You are all pathetic excuses for human beings. God save this country for the likes of you people.


I am sorry, but could you maybe explain why I a man that BLED, for his country, pays taxes, is law abiding, gives to charities, donates time to the old and infirm, am a pathetic excuse?
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Reply By: ParaTed2kPosted: Friday, September 02, 2005The difference between my response and yours COLON GENE, was mine was the informed response coming from experience and yours was the fart of a Hyperactive Colon.Slander:It was my understanding that many of the reserves that would have been there are now off in Iraq. No one could predict the future. Good reply, but I wasn't refering to the military, I was refering to the Emergency Management Officials, Emergency Services, Mayors and Governors. Emergency Management is a local responsibility.There was only what? 12-18 hours notice to empty a million plus people on a few select highways. That would be tough in anyone's book,especially for those with no car.Yes, but look how many people chose not to respond to the call for evacuation. Yes, as I've said before, there were holes in the Emergency Management Plan and one of the gaping ones was evacuation... Especially of those who do not own cars. Imagine how much smaller the problem would have been if the rescue could focus on those who couldn't evacuate instead of including those who could, but chose not to. It is not uncommon for people who live in cities to rely solely on mass transit to get around, any Emergency Protocols for evacuation should have reflected that.


exaCTLY TED, ONE IS DIAGREEMENT WITH INFORMATION, THE OTHER IS JUST more hot air and sour grapes.
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Reply By: little_whipPosted: Friday, September 02, 2005Be careful, MM, or the mean old liberals here will gang up on you and call you bad names!


bring it on, mission accomplished, and a huge bronx cheer for anyone that does not like it THHHHHHWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Reply By: dharmagrlPosted: Friday, September 02, 2005What Americans should be ashamed is the responses of Dr Guy; moderatemen and ParaTed2k. You are all pathetic excuses for human beings. God save this country for the likes of you people.You know what, I've about had enough of you. As far as I know, all three of the men you mentioned have gone into combat situations to defend your dumb ass. they've endured things that you can only imagine so that you say sit on your arse and sling insults at them. They are more American than you will ever be, because they've put their money where their mouths are and they've GONE and DONE instead of just talked.YOU and your ilk are what's wrong with America. You epitomize everything that's dragging this country down. All you do is blame blame blame, and you blame anyone but yourself. You make me want to hurl.Sorry, MM, but I am thoroughly dusgusted with his attitude and his insistence on making EVERYTHING anti-government and anti-Bush.


DO NOT be sorry D< I just get all hot and bothered to see "da ladies" kick some ass. heh
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Reply By: little_whipPosted: Friday, September 02, 2005Male Pattern Baldness and Erectile Dysfunction are Bush's fault too, yanno.Ask dabe, she suffers from both I hear.


ummmmm I am trying to communicate with dabe.. yeh I know MM never gives up on anyone.
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Reply By: Dr. GuyPosted: Friday, September 02, 2005Male Pattern Baldness and Erectile Dysfunction are Bush's fault too, yanno.Really? can I sue him? Now where is John Edwards when you need him? Has anyone heard from him since November 2004? Maybe he is with Dick Cheney. Ya think Dabe?


guys guys guys,,,,, no dabe bashing as long as she behaves here>


PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE dat goes fer u 2 whip.

pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Moderateman, I understand where your frustration comes from, but I disagree. Completely.

These are American citizens. We do not know that they are welfare recipients (as was suggested). For all we know, these people have been paying taxes for their entire adult life--paying for the government to respond to situations like this. And for every "thug" I've seen on tv (looting, rioting, whatever) I've seen moms with kids, elderly women, the sick and infermed.

We watch time and time again as the US helps other countries--as citizens we should expect them to do 10 times more for our own. They should not have to ask for services that they have been paying for (through taxes)--they should expect it.

Couple that thought process with (as locomama said) dehydration, hunger, tiredness, unhuman conditions (like walking through raw-sewage to evacuate) and I am not surprised that people are expressing frustration. [This in NO WAY condones or justifies shooting at helicoptors or engaging in any other anti-social behavior].

It's very easy to judge--but since I've never had to walk a mile in their shoes, I think at this point my empahty is needed much more than my scorn.
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#25 by shadesofgrey
Friday, September 02, 2005


Moderateman, I understand where your frustration comes from, but I disagree. Completely.


disagreement is welcome shades. point taken.

We watch time and time again as the US helps other countries--as citizens we should expect them to do 10 times more for our own. They should not have to ask for services that they have been paying for (through taxes)--they should expect it.

Couple that thought process with (as locomama said) dehydration, hunger, tiredness, unhuman conditions (like walking through raw-sewage to evacuate) and I am not surprised that people are expressing frustration. [This in NO WAY condones or justifies shooting at helicoptors or engaging in any other anti-social behavior].


I agree we should help, from our own heart... not to be made to help. I give with an open heart, But I do not do "someone demanding" very well.

I have said for years we should be helping our own people, stop being the police for the entire world. Keep the billions in aid we give to other countries, rebuild our own infrastructure.
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26 by little_whip
Friday, September 02, 2005


saw a woman that had been sheltered in the SuperDome on FOX news today. When interviewed she complained bitterly about conditions inside, and I admit, they sounded pretty bad.

BUT--when asked if they had at least been given adequate food and water, she admitted that they had, but had the GALL to complain that they had been given no ice for their water and no way to heat the MRE's.

Biggest disaster ever to hit this nation and she complained about warm water and cold food.

~rolls eyes~


I can top that, people complaining about shit on the walls and toilet paper strewn all over, well who put the shit on the walls and who threw stuff all around? what do they expect? MAID SERVICE?

clean up your own mess for crying out load.