Island Dog

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Able Dange

Will the left realize that terrorism was made worse by democrats?

It was in October of 2003 that Clinton National Security Adviser Sandy Berger stole classified documents from the National Archives and destroyed some. Mr. Berger allegedly was studying documents in the archives to help prepare Clinton officials to testify before the September 11 Commission. Was he removing references to Able Danger? Someone should ask him before he is sentenced next month.

After having first denied that staff had been briefed on Able Danger, commission spokesman Al Felzenberg said no reference was made to it in the final report because "it was not consistent with what the commission knew about Atta's whereabouts before the attacks," the AP reported.

The only dispute over Atta's whereabouts is whether he was in Prague on April 9, 2001, to meet with Samir al Ani, an Iraqi intelligence officer.

Czech intelligence insists he was. Able Danger, apparently, had information supporting the Czechs.

The CIA, and the September 11 Commission, say Atta wasn't in Prague April 9, because his cell phone was used in Florida that day. But there is no evidence of who used the phone. Atta could have lent it to a confederate. (It wouldn't have worked in Europe anyway.)

But acknowledging that possibility would leave open the likelihood that Saddam's regime was involved in, or at least had foreknowledge of, the

September 11 attacks. And that would have been as uncomfortable for Democrats as the revelation that September 11 could have been prevented if it hadn't been for the Clinton administration's wall of separation.

The September 11 Commission wrote history as it wanted it to be, not as it was. The real history of what happened that terrible September day has yet to be written.

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Daiwa

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I've been reading through a bunch of articles about this and, while it's admittedly a bit convoluted, it raises serious questions about Jamie Gorelick's conflict of interest and whether her staffers may have been the ones to bury this. It was her directive in 1995 that raised the barrier to information sharing between the CIA, military intel, and the FBI even higher than the law had required, which was too high already.

There were a number of people who felt she had an irreconcilable conflict and should not have accepted the appointment in the first place, obviously knowing of her own role in the leadup to 9/11, and should certainly have resigned once Ashcroft confronted her with her own directive. It also makes you wonder what was in those documents Sandy Burger forgot were in his BVD's & then destroyed.

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Island Dog

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It's a very interesting, but confusing story. From what I have read there are "missing" documents". The FBI should be taking Berger in right now and investigate this again.

But what really is interesting is how the left accuses Bush of causing Sept. 11, but they totally ignore things like this.

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It's a very interesting, but confusing story. From what I have read there are "missing" documents". The FBI should be taking Berger in right now and investigate this again.

The reason they aren't is that they'd have to bring Clinton in too. That would hurt Shillary in 08.

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Island Dog

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A competing series of revelations--from Time magazine, Curt Weldon's book, the Bergen Record, and even from the Commission itself (just four days after stating that they had no recollection at all of the July 2004 briefing)--has cast a shroud of doubt over everyone's credibility, including Weldon. Moreover, it has given momentum for those who felt that the Commission's final report left a significant part of the story untold. Noting that Able Danger, or any other data-mining program, gets no mention at all but that the Commission recommendations include expanding existing data-mining efforts and providing better coordination among them (pages 388-389), critics have begun searching for other data points left out of the Commission's analysis.

THEY MIGHT START with a few cryptic media reports from March 2001 regarding two arrests made in Germany. The BBC and Reuters both noted the capture of Iraqi intelligence agents in Heidelberg. Both reports gave essentially the same minimal data on March 1:

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Daiwa

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Thanks for the link, ID.

This is very interesting stuff. Perhaps the Bush critics who've been clamoring forever that there was no Iraqi connection to terrorism or al Qaeda would like to chime in on this. This more than meets the "36 degrees of separation" proof of guilt standard they apply to the Bush administration (any Republican, for that matter) all the time.

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Daiwa

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