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I just cannot let this on pass,someone elses thoughts,Libs.

I just cannot let this on pass,someone elses thoughts,Libs.

Jesse jackson rides again

August 06, 2005
40 Years After Passage, Voting Law Is in Dispute
Liberals oppose law requiring identification to vote:

yep time for jesse to continue making victims of the blacks and minorities, God forbid they have real identification to prove who they are. Only jesse can make a reasonable request turn into racist behavior

Today marks the 40th year of the Voting Rights Act, and civil rights activists poured into sticky-hot Atlanta for a march that harks back to the thunderous demonstrations and rallies that led to the act's signing on Aug. 6, 1965.
But black, Hispanic and Asian American leaders who plan to link arms in front of the Georgia Capitol said this protest is no historic reenactment. They are fighting a law passed by the state's Republican-controlled legislature in March that requires voters to obtain one of six forms of photo identification before going to the polls, as opposed to the 17 types of picture and non-picture ID they currently use. Georgia officials say the changes -- which experts say will make the state's screening measures the strictest in the nation -- are needed to prevent fraud.


This is what is currently allowed as ID to vote in Georgia:

(1) a valid Georgia driver's license;
(2) a valid identification card issued by a branch, department, agency, or entity of the State of Georgia, any other state, or the United States authorized by law to issue personal identification;
(3) a valid United States passport;
(4) a valid employee identification card containing a photograph of the elector and issued by any branch, department, agency, or entity of the United States government, this state, or any county, municipality, board, authority, or other entity of this state;
(5) a valid employee identification card containing a photograph of the elector and issued by any employer of the elector in the ordinary course of such employer's business;
(6) a valid student identification card containing a photograph of the elector from any public or private college, university, or postgraduate technical or professional school located within the state of Georgia;
(7) a valid Georgia license to carry a pistol or revolver;
(8) a valid pilot's license issued by the Federal Aviation Administration or other authorized agency of the United States;
(9) a valid United States military identification card;
(10) a certified copy of the elector's birth certificate;
(11) a valid social security card;
(12) certified naturalization documentation;
(13) or a certified copy of court records showing adoption, name, or sex change;
(14) A copy of a utility bill;
(15) A bank statement (will be kept confidential);
(16) A government check or payment with name and address; or
(17) A government document that shows the name and address of the elector.

It's not hard to imagine the hodge-podge of leftist groups providing fake utility bills allowing a group of fringe dwellers to vote repeatedly.

Awareness of the legislation was raised this week with the release of memos written by Supreme Court nominee John G. Roberts Jr. from his days as a young aide in Ronald Reagan's Justice Department. Those memos revealed that Roberts forcefully advocated a policy that would shorten the law's reach. The policy sought to bar only voting rules that discriminated intentionally, as opposed to barring rules that have a discriminatory effect.
This is code for "Roberts doesn't want the downtrodden to vote".

As Congress deliberates reauthorizing the act, which is set to expire at the end of next year, some conservative critics argue that two key provisions should be modified, if not dropped altogether. One of those provisions, Section 5, requires states to draw minority-controlled congressional districts if black and Hispanic voters dominate certain residential areas.
Section 5 also required election officials in nine states, mostly in the South, to submit any voting rules changes that might affect minorities to the Justice Department for pre-clearance.


Just let it die.

That is why Georgia's new identification requirement awaits a decision by Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales, who could approve or challenge its implementation in the coming weeks. Rural black voters, many of whom are too poor to own cars, have said they can't get to one of the state's 56 driver's license offices to get a photo ID. Black legislators stormed out of chambers to protest the change.
Union thugs deploy each election day to drive society's victims to the polls. Why can't they be deployed to drive these losers to get a photo ID?

Kathay Feng, executive director of California Common Cause, recalled going to a senior citizen center there and seeing Chinese immigrants lined up to vote during the presidential election in 1996.
White poll workers didn't understand their Cantonese language, or even the way they pronounced their names. Finally, one worker asked if they could step aside "so that we could first help regular voters," Feng said.

"The law is still needed," she said.



Posted by joey at August 6, 2005 08:01 AM

24,003 views 77 replies
Reply #26 Top
Gotta love how kingbee takes a single sentence out of an entire article and hijacks this thread with a discussion of whether or not the unions are corrupt...etc.

I thought we were talking about presenting ID to vote, kingbee, all the union bs aside, how do you feel about that?


just like what I already said, talking head points, toeing the leftist line, propaganda.


nice try yall

heres what i had to say initially. drmiler was the one who got all obsessed bout unions and then proved he don't know shit about them

for a so-called moderate man you sure grab on quickly to extremist--and, in this case, racist--propaganda.

a significant section of the item you posted was taken verbatim from a washington post article dated august 7th so i don't know how 'joey' managed to post it on august 6th. in any event, he took darryl frears' article and added his own editorial comments--without indicating one from the other.

to compound that lil bit of intellectual dishonesty, he pointedly left out the following (referring to the two voting rights provisions in question):

In a speech last week, Gonzales said he would work for the reauthorization of both provisions, according to the Justice Department. Republicans in the House and Senate have so far been supportive. President Bush has remained neutral on the issue, saying he would support any resolution that seemed fair.

this is the part i like the best tho:

Union thugs deploy each election day to drive society's victims to the polls. Why can't they be deployed to drive these losers to get a photo ID?


which union? which union in america has the funds to hire thugs? to whom is he referring as losers?

and why is it that the state of georgia has decided to make its voting laws the 'most restrictive' in the nation? has there been a plague of voter fraud there? not that i recall.

what exactly is the motivation?
Reply #27 Top
Seems he is forgetting about Wisconsin and Michigan as I would say most since they dont spend any for recruitment.


the so-called author if the article mm posted alleged that union thugs were delivering 'losers' to polling places in georgia.

my understanding is there aint enuff union members in georgia (not counting those bullshit employer unions) to hire a crossing guard.

what michigan and wisconsin have to do with that is beyond me--unless you're saying union employees drive down there every election to do their evil work.
Reply #28 Top
I have to show My Id to vote or my voter registration card, why can't minorties


in modesto (or wherever you're living) you have a voter registration card? we don't have em in la. i havent had to show any identification in any election since i moved here and i've yet to miss one.

i take along the lil booklet i get from the registrar in the mail which includes a sample ballot and lists my polling place. i hand it to the first of the three people checking lists and she finds the correct page. the next person finds that page and checks off my name...then has me sign my name on the same line as my name. the third person hands me a ballot.
Reply #29 Top
as long as the republicans keep doin this shit, it's no wonder minorities want nothing to do with em.


the minorities want nothing to do whith the republicans because they cannot get hand out from them, the republicsans believe you should work for you money.
Reply #30 Top
the minirities are quick to whine racisim because it works to to collective white gulit.
Reply #31 Top
in modesto (or wherever you're living) you have a voter registration card? we don't have em in la. i havent had to show any identification in any election since i moved here and i've yet to miss one.


and yet I have no problem showing ID, why do they??
Reply #32 Top
the minorities want nothing to do whith the republicans because they cannot get hand out from them, the republicsans believe you should work for you money.


yeah george w. bush shonuff did labor a long hard time to get his money. as did dick cheney. the only connection between tom delay, money and work is the funding he's received from the sweatshop owners of saipan and the mariannas.
Reply #33 Top
and yet I have no problem showing ID, why do they??


it's not the id. its the idea that georgia--where they used to make black people correctly guess how many jellybeans were in a gallon jar in order to be able to register to vote and get their heads stove in for attempting to actually cast a ballot--feels the need to pass the most restrictive law in the nation a mere 40 years later.

sorta like germany requiring everyone to register as an aryan or non-aryan in 1985.
Reply #34 Top
Reply By: kingbeePosted: Wednesday, August 10, 2005and yet I have no problem showing ID, why do they??it's not the id. its the idea that georgia--where they used to make black people correctly guess how many jellybeans were in a gallon jar in order to be able to register to vote and get their heads stove in for attempting to actually cast a ballot--feels the need to pass the most restrictive law in the nation a mere 40 years later. sorta like germany requiring everyone to register as an aryan or non-aryan in 1985.


you have offically won the mosy inane comparrion talking points kingrr, retire with thst titkle intact.



MM
Reply #35 Top
you have offically won the mosy inane comparrion talking points kingrr, retire with thst titkle intact.


yassuh boss
Reply #36 Top
I have to show more ID to get a membership a blockbuster than to vote. Lets see, I didn't show nothing to vote, or register to vote, just checked a box. The ladies at the polling station knew me, I asked if she needed my ID and she said no and I was off. Less than 5 min from start to finish. Takes longer to apply for a job, less ID than getting the job, less than getting a drivers lisense/SS card/birth certificate. Heck, I could have gone to other polling stations and they wouldn't have noticed. My sister is automatically registered.

Personally, I think that a state issued ID would be a good idea, if they backed it up with a computer that would read the ID just that the person had voted (nothing more) so that other polling places would know that said person had voted and said person could not spend the day going from place to place voting over and over again. Keeping a seperate system for the actual vote registering so that the voter information was seperate from the actual vote.
Reply #37 Top
and yet I have no problem showing ID, why do they??


it's not the id. its the idea that georgia--where they used to make black people correctly guess how many jellybeans were in a gallon jar in order to be able to register to vote and get their heads stove in for attempting to actually cast a ballot--feels the need to pass the most restrictive law in the nation a mere 40 years later.


they should make it a federal law and then we'd all have to do it.
Reply #38 Top
if theyre really worried about vote fraud, then don't award contracts to companies owned by party supporters.

you can commit a lot more fraud a lot easier and with less chance of being caught by messing with the machines. especially computers without a paper trail.


the idea is to make voting reasonably hassle-free to encourage people to vote rather than making it a pain in the ass so only some stubborn mofos like me will show up.

i still want someone to explain to me how come the republicans in georgia felt this law needed to be passed this year.

they should make it a federal law and then we'd all have to do it.


30 years ago, if you indicated your support for something as potentially repressive as a national voting id card law, no respectable conservative woulda ever trusted you again.

the difference now is that what passes for conservative today is repression.
Reply #39 Top
BTW I am getting real tired of being called a racist, could you choose another term? how about just plain old warmonering neo-con?
Reply #40 Top

first of all, you're talking about a state in which, for nearly a century, black people were made to jump thru all kinda hoops before being told they couldnt register to vote.

Oh, Like Mass?  Seems I remember the bussing riots back in the 70s in South Boston......MASS.

Time for ALL Jim crow laws to be gone.  Racism exists in the hearts of man, and in the last 30 years, most of that has been in the "free" states.

Reply #41 Top

my understanding is there aint enuff union members in georgia (not counting those bullshit employer unions) to hire a crossing guard.

Guess it is a mis-understanding, not an understanding then.

Reply #42 Top
47 by Dr. Guy
Thursday, August 11, 2005


Oh, Like Mass? Seems I remember the bussing riots back in the 70s in South Boston......MASS.


oh yeh boston the bastion of liberal thought, did they just last month finally repeal the LAW that stated no indians are allowed in boston proper?
Reply #43 Top

did they just last month finally repeal the LAW that stated no indians are allowed in boston proper?

I heard they were talking about it, but you know politicians, they always lie!

Reply #44 Top
BTW I am getting real tired of being called a racist


stop your whining. the only person who's been called a racist in this entire thread is me.

if you'll look back thru it, you'll see i didn't even call the plagiarist who claims to have written the piece you posted a racist altho i did characterize his 'work' that way.

perhaps you're feeling someone shoulda called you on this comment:

the minorities want nothing to do whith the republicans because they cannot get hand out from them. the republicsans believe you should work for you money.


but that's between you and your conscience.
Reply #45 Top
Key words here are USED TO. What does that have to do with requiring simple identification TODAY?


'used to' for a 100 years. stopped only because they were forced to do so 40 years ago. and there is simple identification already in use. what egregious incidence of vote fraud compelled the georgia legislature to decide it was imperative they institute the most restrictive voting laws in the country this year?
Reply #46 Top
Totally bogus argument


if someone hit you with a colostomy bag every day for 10 years and then stopped tossing colostomy bags at you for the next four years, how would you react to learning he suddenly decided to start stacking up colostomy bags within tossing distance of the route you use to pass by him?
Reply #47 Top
Well, I don't know who drove the busses here in Richmond, but the Dems were out here collecting street people by the dozen on election day, even lying to them and telling them they didnt have to be registered in order to vote. That's technically true, you don't.

However, if you want your vote to be counted, you have a set period of time after casting that vote to prove residency in that precinct. When the vast majority of them didn't, "disenfranchisement" was the battle cry.


what's that got to do with union thugs ferrying losers from deep in the country to polling places?
Reply #48 Top
I think implying that these 'po black folks' are incapable of accomplishing so basic a task as acquiring a single piece of identification, especially when its being offered free and delivered to their doorstep, is pretty damned racist on your part.


the only person who's saying anything similar to that is good ol plagiarizing joey (the purported author of the piece). mm is saying the minorities are too lazy to work. you've blatantly accusing black people (or maybe just the black people in your neighborhood) of voting fraud and strongly suggesting they're too stupid to understand how the law works.

you've falsely accused me of hijacking the thread (easily refuted) and cuz that didnt work you're tryin to turn spin it 180 degrees?

dig yourself.
Reply #49 Top
Lord knows dem po old darkies just aint capable of gettin demselves one o dem dere newfangled ID thingys, even if'n we gives it to dem free and delibers it to they doe's.

Dey be disenfranchised, dey will. Po ol darkies.


i truly hope hilary clinton does win the nomination cuz i recall you vowing to work actively against her. it would be so worth the cost of a trip to virginia to see you knockin on doors and then puttin on a real live minstrel show like this to demonstrate why your black neighbors should vote republican. (actually considering two of my favorite women in the world live in da ol dominion, even if your first performance turned out to be your last, the trip wouldnt be a total loss).
Reply #50 Top
Oh, Like Mass? Seems I remember the bussing riots back in the 70s in South Boston......MASS.


i hope you can see the difference between the concerted power of the state violating its citizens' civil rights and a mob of hateful irish-american racists foolishly trying to protect turf they only think they own...sorta like a buncha gangbangers.

blame nixon for bussing. he could have as easily done the right thing and brought all public schools up to the same level. without stirring up hatred between two members of the same economic people mighta noticed what he was doing earlier along with spiro 'kick me back some bucks' agnew.