Not everyone fits the labels that others try to apply....

Everyone can thank Myrr for the inspiration on this one.

See the comments in this thread/blog entry: where Myrr wrote the following:


Here's my question: why are most of the conservative blogs here on JU just reprints of what Drudge puts on his site? I mean, I check Drudge once every couple of days and sure enough, it's exactly the same things people like Terpfan, Guy, etc. are posting as "articles."

You didn't need to include "via Drudge" up at the top there Terp, we already know who ghostwrites your blog. Really, the only thing worse is drmiler's cut and paste blog -- at least you wrote some somewhat original commentary.



and I answered with:


No Myrr, you don't "already know" who ghostwrites for me.

Nice try at the liberal trick of flinging accussations to see if they stick.

As it turns out, not all conservative blogs are just reprints of Drudge, not all of the people you label as conservatives are, and not all people that even consider themselves conservatives are... but that is a blog rant that will show up momentarily thanks to your mis-placed inspiration here.




I'm going to expand a bit on those comments, even if I am accused of getting it ghost written by Ken Mehlman and the GOP...

There are far too many people that are too quick to make stupid assumptions and accusations like Myrr did in the original thread. Myrr seems to have labelled my blog as a "conservative blog" and/or labelled me as a "conservative blogger".

No offense taken at that label really. I admit myself that I tend to lean conservative, at times quite heavily so, but at other times I can just as quickly tilt right back to what would seem to be the most extreme position on the other side. Anyone that thinks that I'm always blogging the conservative side has not been paying attention, and probably has instead just decided to occassionally step in, troll a comment or two and then go back to their favorite blogs where they feel more comfortable.

Understand, this isn't meant as an attack on Myrr, it's meant to be an attack at those that would be so quick to label. Hell, I know I throw labels around at times myself. I'm known as one that sees the L word as dirty. No, not the Lesbian word, the Liberal word. But with that said, there are plenty of people that throw labels around mistakenly, and/or misuse labels for their own purposes.

There's a certain Clueless Old Liberal for example that claims to be a conservative or perhaps a moderate. As if! Most people that lean to the right would be very quick to file mis-use of label charges against that individual.

There are times when I've seen great bloggers like Gideon or Draginol discuss topics taking sides that most people would never expect to see them take and/or defend. Drag's comments about Wealth/inheritance taxes as a prime example.

My point is that the label-makers amongst JoeUsers (and the world in general) are not doing themselves any favors, in fact, just the opposite. They've probably missed a wealth of information because they don't want to read "conservative blogs" or "liberal blogs." And they've robbed many others of the possibility of seeing balanced conversation, rather than just a few people seemingly parroting the "right on!" "you got it" and other similar comments.

For the record, Myrr is woefully underestimating the wealth of sources I comb through to find something to occassionally make a comment on, or use for making a point. Admittedly, Drudge does provide much fodder that could be used, but it's far from the only source I would use. And I do make every effort to let others know where I find materials so that I don't take the yellow journalistic tact of taking others work and claiming it as my own.

Of course I also have to admit that I would rarely read articles that Myrr might write, because over time I've found that there are far too many things I could argue about in his writings, and I'd rather not get into a confrontational relationship that would be counterproductive. Instead, like with most articles by a certain so-called "truth teller" I ignore the content and leave the writers of some blogs to preach to a dwindling audience of their own parrots and lemmings.
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Nice try at the liberal trick of flinging accussations to see if they stick

You can correct me if I'm wrong but have you not just labelled Myyr a liberal with this comment? You can't have it both ways
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Nice try at the liberal trick of flinging accussations to see if they stick

You can correct me if I'm wrong but have you not just labelled Myyr a liberal with this comment? You can't have it both ways


No. I've accused and/or stated that someone has used a trick that has clearly been a part of the liberal arsenal of late: fling an accusation, even if it's not based in fact and can't necessarily be proven, and hope to see it stick and cause damage to the reputation of the individual that was targetted.

Liberals have been using that tact much more in the last few years, even after complaining bitterly that conservatives have committed all sorts of evils against them in the past (especially during the Clinton administration). It's become an absolute art, and more and more are trying to practice it.

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LW: I could join you quickly with the bristling at that label also...

I'm white bread, meat and potatoes, and I'm definitely not anti-Christian, but am far from "right wing ultra conservative Bible thumping."

I have all sorts of questions about the possibilities of a higher power.... none of which have ever been adequately answered by any clergyman or their representatives. I've carried on many conversations with friends that were "believers" and just as many with others that will probably never believe. I don't claim to know that there's fire and brimstone waiting for anyone, or clouds and wings waiting for others.

Anyway, again, that's part of the mis-labelling that some are too quick to do.


And I'm right there with you on the misunderstandings about class and status....

My more liberal friends look at me and question my support of President Bush and admiration of President Reagan and wonder "WHY?" in big bold letters. I'm not a rich man by any stretch of the imagination (not poor, but far from rich). I'm far more "blue collar" than "white" in my lifestyle, though admittedly I work more towards "white collar" than "blue."

But my family has seen struggle, as did I growing up. My sister and brothers continue to work hard to take care of their families as do I. We may occassionally be able to afford a slight luxury like a nice family vacation somewhere, but normally it's come via coupon clipping and other measures to help cut costs as much as possible so we can continue to afford to eat, light our home, and power a few computers so that I can occassionally blog or play a MMORPG with some friends.
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I dont mind labels, when accurate.  Like LW, I am not a stereotypical right wing cristian, althoug I do proclaim to be a conservative, just not a republican.  I find no insult in people calling me what I am.  I do have a problem with people who derisively dismiss an article because they do not like a source.

I think I have used Drudge twice in all my writings.  And that lables me as a Drudge repeater?  Guess so for some.  I heard a news story this morning on TV, and then Googled it to find a print source that I could link to.  I may get ideas from Drudge, but I try to google confirmation before reporting them.

Just because one does not like the slant, does not mean the data contained therein is in error.

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truth be known I could care less about some label, I know who I am and how I think.
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7 by little_whip
Friday, July 22, 2005


truth be known I could care less about some label, I know who I am and how I think


I think the point terp was making was not whether we (we, as in the ones being labeled) should care, or are even hurt by such labeling. The point was that those doing the labeling hurt themselves by automatically closing their minds to our thoughts and ideas by doing so.


he made the point quite nicely, whip, closed minds are the hallmark of the left today.
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I think the point terp was making was not whether we (we, as in the ones being labeled) should care, or are even hurt by such labeling. The point was that those doing the labeling hurt themselves by automatically closing their minds to our thoughts and ideas by doing so.


Most eloquently and succinctly stated, thanks LW.

Well worth an insightful!
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Do I have your permission to refer people back to this article every. single. time. I am called a liberal or a bleeding heart liberal or you liberals etc, etc, etc?

I agree with the gist of what you're saying (particularly when little whip put it so succinctly in her comment), but do you really not see that you do it too?

In your article on the teacher's dismissal, you replied to my comment with a string of "liberal this" and "liberal that"...liberal, liberal, liberal. I GET SO SO SO SICK OF HEARING ABOUT SOME SORT OF LIBERAL INFLUENCE, LIBERAL CONSPIRACY, LIBERAL MINDSET EVERY TIME SOMEONE DOES SOMETHING STUPID, EVEN WHEN IT'S NOT A POLITICAL SORT OF STUPID!!!!!

Liberals are not possessed of a collective consciousness. We're individuals just like the conservatives. I dare the conservatives here to go a day without using the words liberal or democrat. I doubt you guys could do it. Your brains would short out!!!!

GAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

(I'm a bit high-strung today, can you tell? )
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I agree with the gist of what you're saying (particularly when little whip put it so succinctly in her comment), but do you really not see that you do it too?


Tex, I am sure that I do toss labels around far too frequently also, though many times I think the labels I'm tossing around do fit

There are too many times when people clearly are exercising a liberal agenda, and unfortunately many times the results of those exercises tend to be just the opposite of what a liberal is normally thought of as espousing and defending.

Free speech is fine, except when it comes from a conservative. Legal hairsplitting is fine, except when it comes from "Stinky" (the President's brain, right hand man, etc.). Following the law is great when it applies to same, but not when it could and should be applied to say Sandy Berger, or William Jefferson Clinton.

As to going without tossing the labels, I'd take the bet, especially over the next few weeks when I go off and hand my money away to a few places where I hope to enjoy a famliy vacation
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JU is all about labels by default. By going after Myr, you slapped a label on him.

The righties do it, the lefties do it. It seems to me that a lot of the folks here are here only to do it. I wish i had a buck for everytime a rightie caled me a "Loony Loopy Luddite" when in actuality, i'm a moderate. It's all armchair politicing if you ask me.

And I wouldn't go crying about how the lefties are always on the attack against the poor, picked on righties on JU. Seems as if the majority of the time they are on the ones on the attack.

People in glass houses, ya know?


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Liberals are not possessed of a collective consciousness. We're individuals just like the conservatives. I dare the conservatives here to go a day without using the words liberal or democrat. I doubt you guys could do it. Your brains would short out!!!!

GAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

(I'm a bit high-strung today, can you tell? )

I have tried to categorize liberals (as others have conservatives) and I try to qualify my responses to the strata I am speaking of.  At times I forget to qualify or print a disclaimer, so I am as guilty as the rest of them.  Does that mean I think all of you are mind numbed robots marching in lock step with the leadership?  Hell no!

But it does get tiring when writing of one group to have another group get insulted because I did not qualify it.  Anyone reading me on even a semi regularly basis, can easily distinguish.

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The righties do it, the lefties do it. It seems to me that a lot of the folks here are here only to do it. I wish i had a buck for everytime a rightie caled me a "Loony Loopy Luddite" when in actuality, i'm a moderate. It's all armchair politicing if you ask me.

Just for my own benefit, have I ever called you one?  If I did , I appologize.  You are not.  I would not call you a moderate, but definitely in the lower 2/3rds of the left (my stratification is LLL, Liberal, and Left Center).