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To Court with Limbaugh and Rove

To Court with Limbaugh and Rove




Last Wednesday, circuit Judge Thomas Barkdull III, handed some of Rush Limbaugh’s medical records to Palm Beach prosecutors, ending his 19 month battle to keep his medical records from being used to determine if he illegally obtained prescription drugs. Limbaugh, obtained four prescriptions from four different doctors during the same period of time for prescription narcotics. He is an admitted drug addict and the delivery of some of his medical records to the Palm Beach prosecutor by the court should provide the information needed to charge him with, “doctor shopping”.

Rush had a banner week after he repeated the idiotic statements of the Mayor of London who said the attack on London 7/7 /2005 “didn’t succeed in doing anything”. The reason Rush Limbaugh repeated that ridiculous statement is to make light about the concern that the war on terrorism is not going well. The Islamic terrorist group claiming responsibility made it clear it was in retaliation for the British actions in Iraq. This whole concept that the war in Iraq is helping fight in the war on terrorism has been shown to be a farce with the London attack of 7/7. What is true is that the Iraq war has made the war on terrorism more intense and has provided yet another location for Islamic militants, who hate us, a place to train for future attacks. For Rush Limbaugh to repeat that an attack which brought the transportation system in London to a stop and either killed or injured a thousand people accomplished nothing shows the extent to which this ideologue will go to make it look as if the policies of the right are succeeding.

Last week was also a big week for another right wing conservative giant, Karl Rove who was finally identified as the person in the White House that revealed that Valerie Plame was a CIA agent. This was after her husband, Ambassador Wilson debunked the Bush claim that Saddam Hussein had attempted to buy yellow cake uranium in Africa. At the time Mrs Plame’s name was revealed in the Bob Novak article, President Bush pledged the full support of his administration to find out who perpetrated the illegal act of identifying a CIA agent’s name. He directed his staff to fully cooperate with the FBI to determine the name of this person. Evidently Karl Rove must not have gotten that instruction of the president.

It is now time for both Rove and Limbaugh to face the music. They should both be charged and tried in court. To ignore Limbaugh’s obtaining illegal drugs through doctor shopping or Karl Rove’s illegal act of outing the name of a CIA agent, would be 100% WRONG. We cannot allow these right wing ideologues who either help make policy or influence people with their radio program to not face the same consequences as other Americans who break our laws. Please do not tell me neither Rove or Limbaugh have been convicted. The issue is to bring them to trial and determine their GUILT or INNOCENCE!

It will be very telling of George W. Bush as to what he will do now that Karl Rove has been identified by one of the reporters as the person who released the name of our CIA agent. Although Bush cannot cover it up like Nixon in Watergate, the question is will the Bush administration support Rove being charged and brought to court or if he’s found guilty will Bush pardon him for breaking the law that Bush himself said was a serious offense. As for Rush Limbaugh, his 20 million listeners every day need to understand that their right-wing guru is subject to the same laws and penalties for breaking the laws as everyone else. Last week very definitely documented the values of these two influential right wingers in America. They have shown total disdain for our laws and for the values that has made this country great. It is time for Rove and Limbaugh to face the music.
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Reply #126 Top
"What it says is, Karl Rove wasn't the leaker, he was actually the recipient of the information, not the provider," Republican National Committee chairman Ken Mehlman said on Fox News. "So there are probably a lot of folks in Washington who have prejudged this, who have rushed to judgment who are trying to smear Karl Rove."


ES&S arsehole.
Reply #127 Top
My suggestion is to shift this conversation to Kingbee's discussion on the subject. There, at least, you have a blogger who knows the situation and is willing to acknowledge alternate perspectives even when he doesn't agree. Here you just validate someone who is looking for an excuse to reiterate the same ignorance over and over. Stop feeding the bot.
Reply #129 Top
Excuse me? I don't believe I was talking to you


--I know that, i was just making a comment that ColG is now being called a klink, you know, like: "oh, so he is called that name now...ok..."

Reply #130 Top
Now Time makes it CLEAR, that Karl Rove was the "First person to identify the wife of Wilson as a CIA Agent" to Cooper. It also looks as if Libby, Cheney's CoS, was the second person that Novak used to writre his article. I can not believe either Bush or Cheney did not know their staff were not part of this issue for the past two years. All along Bush, Cheney, Rove and the White House Press Sec all stated that Rove was NOT part of oiting Plame. Thoes are ALL LIES!!!!!!!!. We have another Watergate in the White House and another Vietnam in Iraq. Those who fail to learn from history will repeat it! HOW TRUE!
Reply #131 Top
Thoes are ALL LIES!!!!!!!!. We have another Watergate in the White House and another Vietnam in Iraq. Those who fail to learn from history will repeat it! HOW TRUE!


That has to be the most stupid thing I have ever heard on this forum.

This doesn't compare to Watergate in any way. Iraq does not resemble Vietnam in any way. You are showing your true self again col.
Reply #132 Top
The cove up and lies about the Plame case are the very same as the lies of Watergate and the attempt to cover it up. Bush and Cheney never expected the court to force the reporters to give up their sources.

The Iraq war is a war that the majority of Americans no longer support and in that it is just like Vietnam!

We have the TOP staff menbers of the President and most likely the VP as LIERS! The next issue will be when did Bush and Cheney learn that Rove and Libby were the sources of the outing of Plame?
Reply #133 Top
The cove up and lies about the Plame case are the very same as the lies of Watergate and the attempt to cover it up. Bush and Cheney never expected the court to force the reporters to give up their sources.


First of all col, there is no "coverup". Second, there is absolutley no evidence Bush had any idea what supposedly went on. Get your facts straight before you make your stupid allegations.


The Iraq war is a war that the majority of Americans no longer support and in that it is just like Vietnam!


That's two amazingly stupid posts in one day. You have no idea what Americans support. Let me guess, you get your ideas from media polls of 1000 Americans, right col?


We have the TOP staff menbers of the President and most likely the VP as LIERS! The next issue will be when did Bush and Cheney learn that Rove and Libby were the sources of the outing of Plame?


Most likely. In other words, you don't have facts to back up your claims.

The only liar here is you col. You are a pathetic partisan liberal who has no shame in the lies and propaganda you constantly put on this forum.
Reply #134 Top
Island Dog

NOTHING I have said is untrue. Rove did lie about not outing Mrs Plame. The testamony of Cooper and Novak before the GJ prove that. That will be part of the Time article. It also looks as if Libby is the second source Novak used. If you believe Bush and Cheney DID NOT know they were the sources of the info Novak and Cooper used, you would follow that white rabbet with the pocket watch.

Wake up. It is not one poll that shows the majority do not support the Iraq War. Why do you think Bush is making all these addresses to bolster his position on the war. Almsot every day another attack make it clear this was a BIG mistake and only people that blindly support Bush will not open there eyes to the truth about this war. I am not the liar. We have liars in our government and a President that believes the END JUSTIFIES THE MEANS!
Reply #135 Top
NOTHING I have said is untrue. Rove did lie about not outing Mrs Plame


DID NOT LIE! You better start reading the papers, Klink. Even the press is saying that he did nothing wrong. NOVACK CALLED Rove asking about Plame. Which means he ALREADY knew her name.The following is from YOUR much used NYT! Read and be dismayed!


Robert D. Luskin, Mr. Rove's lawyer, said Thursday, "Any pertinent information has been provided to the prosecutor." Mr. Luskin has previously said prosecutors have advised Mr. Rove that he is not a target in the case, which means he is not likely to be charged with a crime.


The only liar around here is the person who is replying to this.
Reply #136 Top
Not So. As Cooper will report in Time, Rove was the FIRST to identify Wilson's wife as a CIA Agent to him! The issue of Rove violating the complex law about identifying CIA Agents is an open question. The fact that Rove lied for the past two years about not outing Mrs Plame as a CIA Agent has been established by Cooper as you will read in Time tomorrow! YOU ARE WRONG AGAIN BOYS! We still need to confirm if Libby is the second source and if Bush and Cheney also lied when they said they did not know Rove, and possibely Libby were the sources of the informaton.
Reply #137 Top
NOTHING I have said is untrue


Most of what you said is untrue. Rove did not "out" her. In order to "out" someone you must give a name, he did not.



Wake up. It is not one poll that shows the majority do not support the Iraq War. Why do you think Bush is making all these addresses to bolster his position on the war. Almsot every day another attack make it clear this was a BIG mistake and only people that blindly support Bush will not open there eyes to the truth about this war. I am not the liar. We have liars in our government and a President that believes the END JUSTIFIES THE MEANS!


Col, as I have said before, polls mean nothing. They are mostly taken by biased media sources and do not represent the true opinoin of America. They poll 1000 Americans and expect you believe that is the opinion of millions.

Will you finally admit you are nothing but a liberal who is just out to blame Bush for everything?
Reply #138 Top
Not So. As Cooper will report in Time, Rove was the FIRST to identify Wilson's wife as a CIA Agent to him!


Once again col, Plame was not an agent. That has been made very clear. The report I read from Cooper says no such thing. Rove said Wilson's wife "worked in the agency". That's it col. No crime, no coverup, just the usual bs coming from you and the media.

YOU ARE WRONG AGAIN BOYS!


Col, you have been proved wrong so many times in this post alone I can't keep track of all of them. You still refer to Plame as a CIA agent, which she is not. You can't even get this simple fact.
Reply #139 Top
Why donate points to someone who spreads lies and propaganda? You guys are just bumping him to where he wants to be every time, helping him keep his message in front of people.

Good lord, take a hint, he doesn't care what you think. Smearing is the point, and by keeping his smear on the top 5 you jsut help him. Ignore him and let him drift down to the bottom with the rest of his ilk.
Reply #140 Top
Not So. As Cooper will report in Time, Rove was the FIRST to identify Wilson's wife as a CIA Agent to him! The issue of Rove violating the complex law about identifying CIA Agents is an open question. The fact that Rove lied for the past two years about not outing Mrs Plame as a CIA Agent has been established by Cooper as you will read in Time tomorrow! YOU ARE WRONG AGAIN BOYS! We still need to confirm if Libby is the second source and if Bush and Cheney also lied when they said they did not know Rove, and possibely Libby were the sources of the informaton.


Did you "read" the highlighted quote? I think not! Let me help. Courtesy of "The New York Times":

Mr. Luskin has previously said prosecutors have advised Mr. Rove that he is not a target in the case, which means he is not likely to be charged with a crime.
Reply #141 Top
First, the CIA said Plame WAS AN AGENT and is the reason why this case was taken to the Dept. of Justice and the reason why a SP and the FBI have opened a major case about this issue. I would believe the CIA not any JoeUser as to the status of Mrs Plame. There would not be a story or investigation if Plame were not a CIA Agent

The issue is NOT IF LUSKIN has said Rove is to be charged. First, the investigation is not complete. The issue is the ROVE LIED which has nothing to do with if he will be charged with a crime. Bush said anyone in his admiin that was part of the outing of Plame would be FIRED. Yesterday Bush said that a staff member must be CONVICTED of a crime to be discharged. Bush has gone BACK of his statement now that it is Rove.

Today another poll shows 25% believe the White House is telling the truth and handling this case properly. 75% believe Rove should be fired! Your BOY has his a*s in trouble on this one and it is not going to go away!!!!!!!