Daily Dose (of reality?)

Yup. US society cares more about the lives of embryos (little clumps of cells smaller than this period ".") and people in vegetative states than it does healthy, living Americans...

I think a lot of the jesustards don't realize that stem cells come from embryos ("." remember?) and not a fetus. And even that fetus ain't much, man, it ain't much. But hey, keep 'em alive until they can hold a gun and then ship 'em off! Hooray for the USA! USA! USA! USA!

Blah. Thanks for the cartoon.

Myrrander, your grief for the victims of 9/11 and the recent London bombings hasn't changed your mind about how to solve the problem. Why do you expect--demand, even--that our grief over soldiers and their families change our mind aobut how to solve the problem?

You seem to think that because you are not willing to make a sacrifice, that those who are willing do not actually care about the sacrifice being made.

What if Bush went on national television and wept--openly, honestly, and at length--for all the lives that have been lost because of his decisions as commander in chief. What if, in tears, he apologized publicly for each and every soldier's death, and for all the collateral deaths as well? What if he spoke with heartfelt sorrow and more tears, about the "ripple effect" and the impact on American society. What if, in short, he displayed in public the most sincere and complete remorse a human is capable of expressing?

And what if, when he was done, he wiped the tears from his face, blew his nose, looked straight into the camera with those red-rimmed eyes, and said "But let me be clear about this: as much as I truly regret the sacrifices that must be made, and as much as I weep for all that we have lost and will lose in this battle, I believe it is the right battle. I believe that the victory is worth the sacrifice, and I believe that victory is possible. If I had it all to do over again, I would do the same."

Would that answer your objections? Would it make any difference to you?

doonebury was an instument of the liberal left during vietnam too, with little or not so little jabs at the government, the more things change, the more they stay the same.

Bush can sob his lil heart out over the soldiers lost and maimed in Iraq. But, until he apologizes for taking this country to a war based on self-serving lies, those sobs are meaningless. In fact, even sorry don't walk the dog.

As for comparing Doonsbury's jabs at Iraq with that of Vietnam, you sure aren't the first to make the comparison of the similarities between these two American quagmires. All Doonsbury is doing is staying true to form - that being liberal, yes, and anti-bullshit wars for no goddamm reasons.

But, when all you hear are stem cells crying, no wonder you fail to see the connection.

MONKEY: He sure seems sincere.

PANTS: Well, he's not sincere.

MONKEY: Really? How can you tell? Because he sure seems sincere to me.

PANTS: I can tell, because I disagree with him. So he must be lying.

MONKEY: Oh. Well, that makes sense, I guess.

PANTS: Really? Because you don't seem very sincere about that at all.

Also, I don't see how it follows that caring about stem cells means being unable to care about soldiers. I seem to have no difficulty caring about both. But since that doesn't fit your stereotype of conservatives, you'll probably conclude that I'm lying.

Way to align your worldview with the comics page, Zink. Let me know if that ever works out for you.

Bush can sob his lil heart out over the soldiers lost and maimed in Iraq. But, until he apologizes for taking this country to a war based on self-serving lies, those sobs are meaningless. In fact, even sorry don't walk the dog.

There were no lies. Why don't you post your proof in the post that I have been asking for?

#4 by zinkadoodle Sunday, July 10, 2005

As for comparing Doonsbury's jabs at Iraq with that of Vietnam, you sure aren't the first to make the comparison of the similarities between these two American quagmires. All Doonsbury is doing is staying true to form - that being liberal, yes, and anti-bullshit wars for no goddamm reasons. But, when all you hear are stem cells crying, no wonder you fail to see the connection.

these was no quagmire in vietnam, I should know I was there, and I hear the stemcells crying "zink get a opinion of your own"

"I think a lot of the jesustards don't realize that stem cells come from embryos ("." remember?) and not a fetus. And even that fetus ain't much, man, it ain't much. But hey, keep 'em alive until they can hold a gun and then ship 'em off! Hooray for the USA! USA! USA! USA!

You're certainly proof that they don't always end up as much, regardless, Myrrander. Fuck you, you asshole. You are and always will be jesusstayscrunchy, no matter how many "Dr. Jekyll" poses you make to get off blacklists.

P.S. Ayone that wants to blacklist me or ban me for saying it is welcome to do so.

Bakerstreet, you really are a dumb fucker.

Bakerstreet, you really are a dumb fucker.

That statement added to fact that you are actually dabe, will get you a nice exile.  Thank you for visiting.

Bakerstreet, you really are a dumb fucker.

Good-bye zink ( you stupid clown)!

I missed this one the first time around.  She parodied my Daily Dose series!

I am honored!

You're certainly proof that they don't always end up as much, regardless, Myrrander. Fuck you, you asshole. You are and always will be jesusstayscrunchy, no matter how many "Dr. Jekyll" poses you make to get off blacklists. P.S. Ayone that wants to blacklist me or ban me for saying it is welcome to do so.

Touch a nerve there, Baker? I'm afraid I don't understand your hostility. Before birth, these clumps of cells are sacred to the righties in this country. Afterward, well, better hope mom isn't on welfare -- she's just bilking the system. And we, of course, need constant cannon fodder for our wars.

Fuck me? Nah, I could do without the hypothermia of the penis that screwing you would give me...

Doonesbury used to be my least favorite comic when I was little. Now it is my favorite.

Bakerstreet, you really are a dumb fucker.

Followed by "you never learn, you stupid clown, you will be exiled", let's all rejoice.

Myrrander. Fuck you, you asshole.

Followed by...nothing. Oh wait, Zink tried to defend him...Zink was quickly eliminated...interesting...

Still, nothing for Baker, huh? I suppose Baker can tell anyone to fuck off, cuz he's umm...special, right?

I was responding to a bigoted statement about my beliefs, philomedy. I'm a "jesustard".

Even if you can stomach the idea that a 'fetus ain't much', it's nice of you to take issue with the word 'asshole' and just skip over the slurring of my religious beliefs. I'm sure if he had said something about 'towel heads' you'd have been up-in-arms, but then, that's what makes you a hypocrite.

I said it up there, and I'll say it down here, if anyone wants to ban/blacklist me, have at it. Had Myrrander been standing nearby, he would have lost teeth, and I'd happily taken my punishment for it. I think I can stand a little 'troll'.


The language wasn't even the point, anyway. She outed herself as zinkadoodle with that statement. Dabe said such stuff probably a hundred times before any action was taken, and it wasn't taken because of language, it was taken because she is a troll.

She would wander in and say something like "Bush is an asshole", when the topic had nothing to do with it. Some people had a problem with her language, sure. I don't think it was her language that got her exiled, though.

Of course Baker is a favored one, so what?

So I'm confused...is there bias or not?

I was responding to a bigoted statement about my beliefs, philomedy. I'm a "jesustard".

Even if you can stomach the idea that a 'fetus ain't much', it's nice of you to take issue with the word 'asshole' and just skip over the slurring of my religious beliefs. I'm sure if he had said something about 'towel heads' you'd have been up-in-arms, but then, that's what makes you a hypocrite.

I didn't see anyone say "Bakerstreet is a jesustard", did you? Did anyone else? No? I didn't think so, either. What's that? You took a statement that was made about a group of people and decided that it was aimed at you? That's what I thought.

And even if your thoughts on stem cells happen to be in accord with the jesustards that Myrr mentions, let's remember that you and I have had this fight before. From what I see, Myrr talked about a group of people and the opinios that they have. He never addressed you, he never mentioned your name. You responded by telling him (not his argument, or the group he belongs to) but him, to fuck off. But then again, that's what you like to do, isn't it?

Someone says something you don't like, they're assholes and they can fuck off. It saves you the trouble of actually having to debate, I guess.

"And even if your thoughts on stem cells happen to be in accord with the jesustards that Myrr mentions, let's remember that you and I have had this fight before. From what I see, Myrr talked about a group of people and the opinios that they have. He never addressed you, he never mentioned your name. You responded by telling him (not his argument, or the group he belongs to) but him, to fuck off. But then again, that's what you like to do, isn't it? "

Does that pass when someone comes in and starts talking about Jews or Muslims? Hell no. I don't see anyone saying "Now, he said Jew, not your name." That is a patently transparent dodge.

Me? I don't even think you bothered to see what I was even addressing. You just saw the 'f' word and hopped on percieved 'injustice'.

You can sit and spin this however you like. If you want to make a little stink and try to bang up a LW style feud with me, you've picked someone with a tad too much self-respect to take part. Myrrander knew exactly what he was saying, and who he was saying it about. And yes, he was an asshole to do it.

AGAIN. Blacklist me, ban me, whatever, but grow a backbone and stop spreading your little whine all over the messageboard. Email the admins, have them exile me. You DO have something you want to come from this, right? Other than your little stink?

You have your troll button, and you have your little blacklist button. Feel free to use them.

Myrrander knew exactly what he was saying, and who he was saying it about. And yes, he was an asshole to do it.

Yeah, everyone's out to get you. You're the king, you know. We all want your shiny crown.

If you want to make a little stink and try to bang up a LW style feud with me, you've picked someone with a tad too much self-respect to take part.

Yeah, that's what I did.

AGAIN. Blacklist me, ban me, whatever, but grow a backbone and stop spreading your little whine all over the messageboard.

So blackmailing you, which would be, in effect, running from you by taking away your voice, is how I grow a backbone? As opposed to confronting you? What world do you live in? Oh right, the one where you're the monarch and everyone wants your kingdom...

You have your troll button, and you have your little blacklist button.

Sorry, I'm not gonna run (unlike some people).

Maybe the same one your hero dabe lives in, Phil. She's had me blacklisted forever, in spite of the fact that she sits on her blog and yaps about me constantly.

When have I defended dabe when she's done her stuff? If anything, by making my arguments incoherently, she's weakened my stance!!! Do I have to put my criticism of her behavior here in bold for you to see it? Reread my article, its all there. I said they're both at fault.

Oh, and I'll be getting off the puter shortly, because contrary to some people's opinion, I do have a life, (and I'm right at home, too.)

Yeah, you should get back to arguing about points.