Discrimination and Server Response headers

If I remember correctly a few key members here use Opera and have no problems whatsoever.

On the other hand - why not just use IE?

First off kona, I guarantee you nontroppo knows his stuff. I visit the Opera forums quite often, and he is most knowledgable (unlike some who constantly inject their uninformed opinions) If he says he has found a problem, you can take it to the bank.
Secondly... you remember incorrectly.

On the other hand - why not just use IE?

*sigh*

Well - forgive me then. Nevermind my comments.

On topic: could this have something to do with the fix for the menus that were getting cut off a few weeks ago?

Off topic: Nontroppo or Koasati....I use a registered version of Opera 8.01, but I keep a copy of Maxthon on my computer for those sites that don't play nice with Opera. For some reason I cannot get Opera to stay as my default. Whenever there is a call from a program (like say in the "About" menu) it brings up Maxthon. I don't have Maxthon set as the default in it's options. In Opera I have the html and url files associated with Opera. I do use Outlook for mail and Xnews for newsgroups and RSS readers for RSS and XML associations. Occasionally it will open Maxthon even when Opera is already open. Any ideas?

K-

Will you or an Admin get this info where it needs to go?

Sounds awfully useful to me.

You bet I will Corky..... if T-Man, or one of the other site coders doesn't respond to this thread, I call it to their attention on the Admin board.

Lantec... I don't know what might be causing that problem. You may need to ask on the Opera forums.

Just a bit more info. It may not be your programming, but something IIS/6.0 does automatically. The specific page I use for testing was https://www.wincustomize.com/Skins.aspx?LibID=28

I used Ethereal to monitor responses, and Proxomitron set to rewrite HTTP user agent headers (no other rules were active in the Prox filter list) as they left the browser. Ethereal allowed me to search all response headers that had gzip or deflated content. I found 4 compressed responses normally, 2 serverd by IIS/6.0 and 2 by a server software called Cafe (I assume they were from an adserver).

The main document server actively checks for Opera and then doesn't compress the content causing Opera to require some ~80kb more bandwidth to get the page. On broadband this slows down page loading by up to a couple of seconds.

Wizop: thanks!

On the other hand - why not just use IE?

Do you(http://www.stopie.com/) really want(http://browsehappy.com/) me to(http://channels.lockergnome.com/news/archives/20040615_why_you_should_dump_internet_explorer.phtml) answer that(http://nontroppo.org/wiki/WhyOpera)? (http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=16922)

Mostly use Firefox myself, with a few exceptions: this site (some tools only work in IE), my online bank account (logon only works in IE) and Windows Update. Rest of the time it FF all the way

On topic: could this have something to do with the fix for the menus that were getting cut off a few weeks ago?

No, this is related to the server itself, not the code that is sent.

For some reason I cannot get Opera to stay as my default. Whenever there is a call from a program (like say in the "About" menu) it brings up Maxthon. I don't have Maxthon set as the default in it's options. In Opera I have the html and url files associated with Opera. I do use Outlook for mail and Xnews for newsgroups and RSS readers for RSS and XML associations. Occasionally it will open Maxthon even when Opera is already open. Any ideas?

Nontroppo - I understand your security issues with IE6. I myself have never had a problem with security or viruses while using IE6.

Anyhow let's hope IE 7 is better and addresses alot of the problems people have with IE6.

Any update from the esteemed Wizops about this?

Nontroppo - I understand your security issues with IE6. I myself have never had a problem with security or viruses while using IE6. Anyhow let's hope IE 7 is better and addresses alot of the problems people have with IE6.

My major problem personally has been the deliberate and inexcusable attempt to make the web a proprietary domain of a single company. I LOVE the Internet, it is an amazing evolution of human interaction and culture. I deeply believe no company should have control of which direction it will go. Politically an open Internet is essential. Microsoft don't share that view and IE is their wrecking vehicle to do so. The rendering engine of IE phenomenally breaks interoperability. As a sometimes web developer, having to work around an horrifically shoddy IE rendering engine to use such elegant technologies as CSS is painful in the extreme.

Just to be clear, the OS doesn't interest me. I haved loved Win 2K (XP is making me more upset the longer I use it). I don't care one way or the other about the company, which company is irrelevant to me. But don't mess with our Internet. IE7 will be more of the same. Their task to make the rendering core of IE finally respect web standards and interoperability is large, and they have shown little commitment publicly (I'd love to be proved wrong!) The security mess that is IE has sadly made the web a much more hostile place, but that is secondary IMO to the political implications of making the internet the playground of a(ny) single company.

I would expect IIS to play foul. I don't get gzip-ed content either (Mozilla), so it's not just Opera.

Any update from the esteemed Wizops about this?

I've pointed to this thread on the Admin board........ but that's all I can do. We'll just have to wait and see.

We use a third party utility for our site compression.  The product claims to work with Opera but it appears that this may not be the case.  I'll drop their support an email and see what they say.

nontroppo,

Their support personell is asking what version of Opera you are using and also what is the User-Agent strings you are using so that they can try and reproduce the issues.