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Accusations without proof or evidence

July 6, 2005 12:56:10 PM from JoeUser ForumsJoeUser Forums
It never ceases to amaze me the accusations democrats and liberals constantly make with no proof or evidence to backup their claims. Here is a quote I'm am borrowing from Dr. Guy. His article about this is here.

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"The president is a liar," she continued. "Dick Cheney, the chief architect of the Big Lie, is not only a liar, he is a thief." She accused Cheney of helping his former company Halliburton rake off illicit war profits in Iraq.

Now this lie that she is telling is common among the lefitst. Here are a few of the repeated accusations made against Bush and Republicans.

Bush went to war because of oil.
Cheney went to war for Halliburton.
Bush lied about the war.
Rove is guilty of treason because of the Plame case.

This is just of a few accusations that every leftist will make against this administration. Now let's remember something about this. None, of these accusations have ever been proven. Many people have written articles about this subjects asking for proof, not one has provided it. We have a post going on right now where two members accuse Rove of committing treason, yes treason, because of this CIA analysts name being leaked. I have asked for proof several times, not one has provided it.

How many posts on JU are there that tell us that we should give terrorists lawyers, rights, and freedoms? Now when it comes to Rove, an American, these people automatically assume he's guilty of treason (which by the way was never even committed). This coming from the side that loves to call Republicans "hypocrits".

What this is really all about is the status of the democratic party. These above accusations not only come from people on a forum, they come from our elected officials, democrats mostly. Democrats make the most outrageous claims about our President, about our country, yet they scream when their "patriotism" is questioned. If you have any proof of any allegations posted, post them here. If not, please retract your statements in the other posts.
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Reply #1 July 7, 2005 7:50:12 AM
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I'm still waiting for proof.
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Reply #2 July 7, 2005 7:54:53 AM
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still waiting for proof.


You won't get any because there is none.
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Reply #3 July 8, 2005 8:49:25 AM
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Let's add another to the list.

You have lost rights or freedoms.


Look at all the allegations they have used, but not one can provide any proof.
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Reply #4 July 8, 2005 9:06:05 AM
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Wow...not a one yet, huh?

*insert sarcasm here* Whodathunkit?
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Reply #5 July 8, 2005 9:09:05 AM
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Wow...not a one yet, huh?


It's funny because these people always scream about the lies from Bush, but they lie themselves. The difference is we can prove their lies, they can't with theirs.
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Reply #6 July 8, 2005 9:11:08 AM
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The people who disseminate this crap arent interested in facts or proof, its enough for them to spread the lies, knowing that other stupid little parrots will read, believe, and repeat.


Even when the proof is there to show the lies for just what they are, they still repeat them. Like Zink still trying to say that Plame was a covert agent. The evidence is there for a blind man to see, yet they do not.

ID, if you are going to wait, might I suggest the complete works of Isaac Asimov and then War And Peace? You are going to have a very long wait.
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Reply #7 July 8, 2005 6:18:37 PM
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Just like the posts about the terrorist attacks, the left has gone silent again.
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Reply #8 July 8, 2005 6:50:33 PM
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ya mean "kissin yer pinky to the sky" is not legal and binding proof of republican malfeasense?
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Reply #9 July 10, 2005 12:11:28 PM
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I have been reading recent posts where people still use these accusations. Why can't they come here and prove them?
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Reply #10 July 10, 2005 1:41:48 PM
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I have been reading recent posts where people still use these accusations. Why can't they come here and prove them?


Because they are COWARDS!
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Reply #11 July 11, 2005 7:10:35 AM
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Why can't they come here and prove them?

Because they cant.  They will not honestly debate as they will lose, so they use lies in their own forum, and shrink away from an honest debate.

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Reply #12 July 12, 2005 7:51:34 AM
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Because they cant. They will not honestly debate as they will lose, so they use lies in their own forum, and shrink away from an honest debate.


Not one has come here to prove their lies. How surprising.
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Reply #13 July 13, 2005 1:07:33 PM
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I am amazed at all the people who have proven the lies here.
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Reply #14 July 13, 2005 2:48:43 PM
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This is just of a few accusations that every leftist will make against this administration.


Really? Every leftist?

I'm a "leftist," and I've never said:

Bush went to war because of oil.

I think it would be foolish to deny that this might have been a small piece of the obviously complex equation, but I've never said "we went to war over oil."

Cheney went to war for Halliburton.

I think Cheney's creepy, and I dislike Halliburton, but I've never uttered that statement above, either.

Bush lied about the war.

Nope. Bush 100% believes that he's doing what's right for our country, and I don't think he's intentionally lied about anything.

Rove is guilty of treason because of the Plame case.

Never said that either. A massive tool? Yes. Guilty of treason? I don't think so.

So there you go...apparently I am the spokesperson for the left, and there's my thoughts. I don't go around spouting any of the things you've mentioned.
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Reply #15 July 13, 2005 2:51:17 PM
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My mistake. Most lefitsts, not all.
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Reply #16 July 13, 2005 3:01:16 PM
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ya dog tex is the EXCEPTION that makes the rule.

Ya need more disclaimers dog, make a statement, then a disclaimer, another statement then comes another disclaimer, that way no one picks the one thing you said that does not apply to them and make an issue of it.
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Reply #17 July 13, 2005 3:14:54 PM
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My mistake. Most lefitsts, not all.




It may seem that I'm being picky, but it's very frustrating to me to see generic "liberals" blamed for so much and being subjected to so many accusations.

I know that I am definitely not the exception to the rule, and while there may be a few (even many) rabid, nonsensical, terrorist-sympathizing, hate-filled liberals, they don't represent me.

I don't care what side of the spectrum an idea or action comes from. If it's good, it's good and I support it. If it's bad, it's bad and I condemn it.

My idea of what's good and bad may differ from yours from time to time, but I certainly hold no partisan allegiance that forbids me from going along with something the "opposition" proposes.
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Reply #18 July 13, 2005 3:24:28 PM
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Really? Every leftist?

I'm a "leftist," and I've never said:


That is because you are one of THOSE leftists! We know you really are a Liberal Republican!
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Reply #19 July 13, 2005 3:30:24 PM
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It may seem that I'm being picky, but it's very frustrating to me to see generic "liberals" blamed for so much and being subjected to so many accusations.


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