Medicinal Marijuana

Reply #1 June 29, 2005 1:34 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

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Reply #2 June 29, 2005 1:50 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

holy cow!
I am very antidrug, I dont use prescribed drugs heck I dont even use the pain killers my dentist has when i get my teeth done, but I must admit your point doies have merit....
I am not saying I agree but.... I will think more

Reply #3 June 29, 2005 2:05 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

3 by little_whip Wednesday, June 29, 2005

It has nothing to do with trusting the doctors, MM, and everything to do with the incredible amounts of money being made off of its illegality. All those south american dictators getting their palms greased, all the smugglers and cartels and the law enforcement agencies employed to stop them, Customs, DEA, FBI, Federal Marshalls, the Coast Guard, State and Local Police, Judges, Lawyers, Prison Employees, Probation and Parole Officers, Social Workers, Drug counselors, "rehab" owners.... Look how many of them would be out of a job if weed were legal.

all those folks could be put to work guarding our porous borders, besides the heroin and coke trade is not about to go away.

Reply #4 June 29, 2005 2:06 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

2 by Keithpup Wednesday, June 29, 2005

holy cow! I am very antidrug, I dont use prescribed drugs heck I dont even use the pain killers my dentist has when i get my teeth done, but I must admit your point doies have merit.... I am not saying I agree but.... I will think more

I will be awaiting your next response.

Reply #5 June 29, 2005 4:10 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

Ewww??? I've never checked what was in any of the pills or syrups i take when i'm sick, but that's a pretty scary list u got there mm... I'm not fond of pot or any drugs for that matter, but it does sound pretty irrational.

Reply #6 June 29, 2005 4:17 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

Reply By: island_gurl12Posted: Wednesday, June 29, 2005Ewww??? I've never checked what was in any of the pills or syrups i take when i'm sick, but that's a pretty scary list u got there mm... I'm not fond of pot or any drugs for that matter, but it does sound pretty irrational.

yep makes me crazy all the real bad decisions the "SUPREME IDIOTS" have handed down in the last 2 weeks.

Reply #7 June 29, 2005 4:55 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

I would rather go through the pain then F**k up myself more by taking mm.....

Reply #8 June 30, 2005 10:22 AM from JoeUser Forums Top

To step off topic for a moment, (and to satisfy my curiosity) I recently read on one of your blogs that you were 13 in 1994, which would make you 24 now. You've also started adding "PhD" to some of your posts, and referring to yourself as Dr Baily. Might I ask what subject you got your PhD in at such a tender age, and which university issued it? Id love to read your doctoral thesis....

--I apologize...

--A PhD in history, specifically pre-renaissance, and it was Southern Oregon University...and as soon as i can find it (i don't remember where i put, i think i sutffed it away in a box when i headed out this way...i was just relieved to get done...it was tough...) it might take a while because jasmine is currently fighting a cold (or at least thats what we both think...i'm taking her to see the doc in an hour

Reply #9 June 30, 2005 11:28 AM from JoeUser Forums Top

#8 by Dr. Bailey Wednesday, June 29, 2005

would rather go through the pain then F**k up myself more by taking mm.....

Me too lucas, I have a runnig persciption for morphne and only use it when Becomes more than I can stand.

I also have a majijuana script, that I will never use

Reply #10 June 30, 2005 11:29 AM from JoeUser Forums Top

#8 by Dr. Bailey Wednesday, June 29, 2005

would rather go through the pain then F**k up myself more by taking mm.....

Me too lucas, I have a runnig persciption for morphne and only use it when Becomes more than I can stand.

I also have a marijuana script, that I will never use

Reply #11 June 30, 2005 12:28 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

You have a good point there Elie. And an even better point Whip! It's definately quite noticeable why marijuana won't be made legal in this country.

Pharmaceutical companies are big money makers in the US and carry a lot of influence with congress and lobbyists and they do know how to throw their heavy weight around. So if they can't make money from something or can't monopolise it why in hell would they want it around?

There are so many natural stuff around that can get rid of a lot of ailments. So many strides that have been made for cure of some diseases but you won't be hearing about them. Because if the cure is out there, where is the money in that?

While I don't indulge in marijuana myself, I've been around it throughout my childhood to know what good it DOES do and why it is GOOD for medicinal reasons. Believe it or not my mom used to give us, my brothers and sisters and I ganja (that's what we call it in Jamaica, or Senseimelia) tea to drink once in a while to keep the "heebie jeebies" away. And we hardly got sick with all those childhood ailments. We were all very healthy kids and still are actually! So making it legal will have its merits!

Reply #12 June 30, 2005 2:12 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

Reply By: foreverserenityPosted: Thursday, June 30, 2005You have a good point there Elie. And an even better point Whip! It's definately quite noticeable why marijuana won't be made legal in this country.Pharmaceutical companies are big money makers in the US and carry a lot of influence with congress and lobbyists and they do know how to throw their heavy weight around. So if they can't make money from something or can't monopolise it why in hell would they want it around? There are so many natural stuff around that can get rid of a lot of ailments. So many strides that have been made for cure of some diseases but you won't be hearing about them. Because if the cure is out there, where is the money in that? While I don't indulge in marijuana myself, I've been around it throughout my childhood to know what good it DOES do and why it is GOOD for medicinal reasons. Believe it or not my mom used to give us, my brothers and sisters and I ganja (that's what we call it in Jamaica, or Senseimelia) tea to drink once in a while to keep the "heebie jeebies" away. And we hardly got sick with all those childhood ailments. We were all very healthy kids and still are actually! So making it legal will have its merits!

there was a time when I would do any drug you offered me, clean {sniffin armpits} pewwwwwwww and sober now, for today anyway.

Reply #13 June 30, 2005 3:45 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

{sniffin armpits} pewwwwwwww

You're hilarious !

Reply #14 June 30, 2005 4:53 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

Reply By: foreverserenityPosted: Thursday, June 30, 2005{sniffin armpits} pewwwwwwww You're hilarious !

any day I can cause someone to laugh, makes me very happy

Reply #15 July 3, 2005 3:26 AM from JoeUser Forums Top

LW--

Well, I have it figured out now, SOU was not the school that issued me the Doctorate, I was incorrect, after looking into it…the study program I was in, which was specially designed due to the circumstances involved,was started at my hometown's CC...I took classes at SOU (and one other place near my home, besides the CC), but was not alumni, so I wouldn’t be listed as one on the site…as I was not technically a student their…..I was instead enrolled at the local CC, but since they did not have certain classes……hope that helps clear your confusion…

--also, if I can get a scanner, I will get my diploma up…but I have never had any use for one so i never bought one...I will get those photos up tomorrow some time, its almost 1:20am…

Reply #16 July 3, 2005 3:34 AM from JoeUser Forums Top

Link to paper:

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If you have anymore questions, just email me and i will be glad to reply(as to not highjack mm's post)

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Reply #17 July 3, 2005 4:13 AM from JoeUser Forums Top

I watched a verg good documentary on this very point, and Moderateman you are according to the evidence very close to the truth. Apparently pre wwii Pot was not illegal, however once the war the then sectary of agriculture, a Mr Dupont, of the same family that invented nylon or at least had the rights to this brought about the bill that lead to the use of pot becoming illegal. Based on the said evidence in this documentary the same person then had pressure via the US govt and others to make this a world wide law, I am not implicating the US Govt in this, only pointing out how govts were dupped into pressuring the UN and the world at large into banning pot , sadly and mistakenly they also included hemp, even though these plants are not the same even though they are related, one has THC, which make one go gaga, the other does not. Why have hemp banned, simple, hemp has multiple uses, many of which would affect the bottom line of companies such as those which produce petro chemicals and such materrials as nylon. One problem for these companies was that A) hemp material as yet has not been found to wear out like cotton, (natural) or chemical based products such a rayon and nylon, it is also far cheaper to produce, and can be produce in cotton gins. It also has very few if any known pests which may attack the crop, and uses far less water to produce the crop. Hemp can also be used to produce Hemp oil, which can run Desil engins, as a matter a fact the same engin was designed to run on hemp oil. Hemp and cannibis also have a variety of medical uses. Not to mention most of the hemp producing nations where third world or communist block countries. So yes hemp and pot would affect a lot of large corporations around the world, so banned it was.

Reply #18 July 3, 2005 6:30 AM from JoeUser Forums Top

To me your aiming your big guns at the wrong target. The Supreme Court, for once, made the right ruling on this one. The target should be the FDA and "recreational" users.

All the FDA has to do to make Medical Marijuana a reality is change its classification from a Schedule I drug to a Schedule II drug. However, I think one of the biggest stumbling blocks to that happening is all the recreational users to lit up "to celebrate" the passing of medical marijuana laws in some states.

As soon as they did that, they gave the opponents of marijuana legalization and the FDA all the ammunition they needed to justify keeping marijuana listed as a Schedule I drug.

So recreational users, if you believe in Medical Marijuana so much, are you willing to give up "abusing" pot, so that those who really could use it can get the regulations changed?

Reply #19 July 3, 2005 8:57 AM from JoeUser Forums Top

Look how many of them would be out of a job if weed were legal.

Look how many of these people and the pharmaceutical companies would be out of business if people were allowed to just grow it themselves. In fact, weed is just that - it's the easiest to grow weed on the planet.

I'm a firm believer in the power of pot. My brother used it for his chemo, and it was the ONLY thing that helped. I resent the lawmakers who find the need to dictate what may or may not help based on some political positioning with their pharaceutical lobbyists and their south of the border interests. It's disengenuous, to say the least.

GROW YOUR OWN

Reply #20 July 3, 2005 3:17 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

ya know what, i gave you an answer and if you don't believe me, then thats your fault...so long all...

Reply #21 July 3, 2005 3:29 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

ya know what, i gave you an answer and if you don't believe me, then thats your fault...so long all...

No, Lucas, you never gave an asnwer. You gave a response that you hoped we would swallow and now that we haven't and holes are starting to show in your story, you're leaving. How convienient is that, huh?

I'm still waiting to see the wedding pictures.

Reply #22 July 4, 2005 3:19 AM from JoeUser Forums Top

LW, please read my latest blog...

Reply #23 July 5, 2005 2:02 AM from JoeUser Forums Top

I don't think marijuana should ever be fully legal - I've seen too many of my friends become deadshits after using it regularly for a few years - I do think it should, like most currently illegal drugs, be legal for the elderly, those in intense pain or the terminally ill.

For someone who's going to die in a few months addiction is not really a problem. If it kills the pain who does it hurt? Or for someone like littlewhip, if it works better than the prescription stuff then why not? It's not like she's selling it at the front of preschools (you aren't, are you?). And again, with such a victimless crime making it illegal for the elderly is just stupid. Do they really care if they get shifted from the nursing home to maximum security? It's just a different TV and a different soulless little room.

Medical marijuana makes sense. It's just a shame profits and pious better-than-you bullshit is considered more important.

Reply #24 July 5, 2005 8:47 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

Reply By: zinkadoodlePosted: Sunday, July 03, 2005Look how many of them would be out of a job if weed were legal.Look how many of these people and the pharmaceutical companies would be out of business if people were allowed to just grow it themselves. In fact, weed is just that - it's the easiest to grow weed on the planet. I'm a firm believer in the power of pot. My brother used it for his chemo, and it was the ONLY thing that helped. I resent the lawmakers who find the need to dictate what may or may not help based on some political positioning with their pharaceutical lobbyists and their south of the border interests. It's disengenuous, to say the least.

here we agree, if it's good enough for montel williams to step out and say he needs pot to be pain free, that's good enough for me.

Reply #25 July 5, 2005 8:49 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

Reply By: little_whipPosted: Sunday, July 03, 2005MM, I will again apologize for the hijack, but I just gotta put the period on it here, since this was where it all started.

tis ok whip, this is why I avoided this article for so long,