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Hyperbole Gets old Quickly

Hyperbole Gets old Quickly

Time to adopt a new line

Recently we had an article comparing Nazis to Bush.  That is nothing new.  This one was only new in that it was from a non-american (as in they are not of America, not that they were unpatriotic).

But it was the same old tripe and the only purpose it served was to cheapen the holocaust.  The quote he provided was so generic that I dare say that virtually every citizen of this planet that is trying to convince another of their viewpoint is guilty of it.

And so it was just another lame attempt to equate Nazism with the current leadership in America.

And it accomplished nothing.  Indeed, the only thing it did do was piss off some liberals who might have agreed with the poster had the poster not tried this hyperbole.  Instead it just got him some flames and some trolls.

The problem is the use of the analogy.  Analogy is fine to drive home a point.  But using extreme examples that are easily debunked does nothing.  And so he accomplished nothing.

Except one thing.  You see, in this country (since the barb was aimed at it), we have the extreme left (who likes to use 4 letter words like there is a clearance sale on them), the Extreme right (who cannot speak of any subject without invoking Religion), and the vast middle.

The middle is easily swayed one way or another as evidenced by Bill Clintons election and now George Bush's.  They are not on the extreme.  They are in the middle.  But they are not stupid either.  So when the Left uses Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot to describe the opponents, they get kuzzaws from their extreme left, but no converts.  For the middle sees it as an anathema.  An aboration of what they dont want this country to become.

When the extreme right uses similar (altho no where near the hate filled images) to drive home a point, the leadership on the right repudiates them.  The leadership on the left never repudiates their extremes, they only seem to embrace them.

This latest post on JU is just an extension of the left embracing their extremist. instead of repudiating them.  I saw one thread where someone listed the KKK activities of Byrd (just listed).  Thje left, instead of repudiating it, cited Helms.  WHile an extreme conservative, he never had anything to do with the KKK so the poster lost before they hit the enter key.

And so it goes on and on and on.  Most of the posters on the "Bush is a nazi" thread were not arguing "yes he is or no he is not". For there was no need to.  They were calling the poster to task for a statemtent that could just as easily have been applied to the originator.

There are many on the left here on JU that do not attempt these tactics.  They argue policy and results.  And very well I might add.  But there are also some of their brethren that march in lock step to the mind numbed robots of the left leadership and no longer know how to argue issues and points.

Dont get me wrong, there are some on the right who do the same thing.  But how many on the rigth rush to their defense?  Few if any.

This is a wake up call for those on the left (not the rational left that post opposing viewpoints) that must defend everything left.  You earn no points, you only make sure that no one in the targeted middle will listen to you.

When will you learn?  If history is any indication, not in my lifetime.  you have demonstrated that already.

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Reply #26 Top
Or the source.


That was your blog. Maybe we should link the 2.
Reply #27 Top

kingbees argument style: Rush Limbaugh had a drug problem, therefore everything he ever said is bullshit.

Actually, I found his drug reference to be highly specious. I doubt if he mentions Limbaugh's name he is going to turn to stone, but he must think so.

I admire his attempt to discredit articles, but once the source is cited, it is time to admit that you are wrong and move on.  Contrary to his contention, I try to do the same, but when I find that I am wrong, I admit it and move on.  I don't keep beating a dead horse.

Reply #28 Top
youre both ignoring his use of feminazi as hyperbole...not to mention distorting what i said on lw's post. but just keep jackin each other off...
Reply #29 Top
it must be bullshit. (He pulled this one on RW not long ago. He never argued the facts of the issue, but expended major effort on exposing THE TRUE AUTHOR!) But since RW attributed it to the wrong author, it must be bullshit.


you clearly are unable to read. i said it was bullshit because the author made it up. but don't worry...the best defense is a good offense.
Reply #30 Top
Ok, if you want to be a driminal all your life for a misdeed done 20+ years ago, that is your choice, but as you cant seem to stay on topic, sorry, I guess I wont worry about your non-posts now.


if rush had done drugs as a child or 20+ years ago, you'd have an analogy...and he wouldnt be fighting the release of his medical records. but if you're trying to say his use of the term 'feminazi' isn't the exact same thing as you're whining about here, then i guess calling someone a bushnazi is no problem either?
Reply #31 Top
yeh doc you are right hyper moles can sure destroy a nice lawn.
Reply #32 Top
if rush had done drugs as a child or 20+ years ago, you'd have an analogy...and he wouldn't be fighting the release of his medical records


Whether or not Rush has done drugs is "immaterial"! What is germaine and you seem to keep missing is the fact that releasing his records "without" his approval is ILLEGAL!!! Ever heard of the "privacy act"?
Reply #33 Top
hyper moles can sure destroy a nice lawn


aaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahah they shonuff can.
Reply #34 Top
What is germaine and you seem to keep missing is the fact that releasing his records "without" his approval is ILLEGAL!!! Ever heard of the "privacy act"?


what's germane is whether or not yall deplore use of the term 'feminazi'
Reply #35 Top
What is germaine and you seem to keep missing is the fact that releasing his records "without" his approval is ILLEGAL!!! Ever heard of the "privacy act"?


what's germane is whether or not yall deplore use of the term 'feminazi'


nope.
Reply #36 Top

youre both ignoring his use of feminazi as hyperbole...not to mention distorting what i said on lw's post. but just keep jackin each other off...

I dont recall Limbaugh being elected.  Perhaps you can enlighten me on to which office he holds?

Reply #37 Top

you clearly are unable to read. i said it was bullshit because the author made it up. but don't worry...the best defense is a good offense.

Not always.  While I will not quibble with every time you dismissed something, I know that in the cases I speak, you dismissed 2 for the source, not bothering to check to see if additional sources could be found.  They were, and I showed you.  Yet you dismissed both reports because you did not like the original source. It is you that is clearly unable to either google or read.  You pick the one.

Reply #38 Top

if rush had done drugs as a child or 20+ years ago, you'd have an analogy...and he wouldnt be fighting the release of his medical records. but if you're trying to say his use of the term 'feminazi' isn't the exact same thing as you're whining about here, then i guess calling someone a bushnazi is no problem either?

No, it is not the exact same thing.  Correct me if I am wrong, but he has not been elected to any leadership position.  And your guess would be old news as it is being done all the time, by your Party Leadership!

Get on the plan and off your horse.

Reply #39 Top

yeh doc you are right hyper moles can sure destroy a nice lawn.

Muck up a house (and senate) too!

Reply #40 Top

Whether or not Rush has done drugs is "immaterial"! What is germaine and you seem to keep missing is the fact that releasing his records "without" his approval is ILLEGAL!!! Ever heard of the "privacy act"?

No, the point he is missing is that Rush DID drugs.  He is not doing them.  SO by using the phrase he did, then it means that anyone ever doing a crime in their life, must for ever be branded with that criminal label.  And that is just plain stupid.  But that seems to be his point.

Reply #41 Top
"hyper moles can sure destroy a nice lawn"


Hyperboles are really active weavils... right? I try to always pick the lesser of two weavils.
Reply #42 Top

what's germane is whether or not yall deplore use of the term 'feminazi'

If it was Bush, Cheney, or Frist saying it?  Hell Yes.  But last I checked (and I will interject this again), when was Limbaugh elected to a leadership position in any party?

Reply #43 Top

Hyperboles are really active weavils... right? I try to always pick the lesser of two weavils.

Is there a full moon out tonight?  The puns are flying fast and furious!

Reply #44 Top
The whlole Rush and drugs thing is silly, anyway. If noteworthy Democratic political editorialists had to back off because they used drugs, would any be left?

Me, I'd put Rush's urine sample up against anyone from the Garafalo crew any day of the week. I wonder how clean Al Franken's blood was back in the old Saturday Night Live days...
Reply #45 Top
#44 by BakerStreet
Wednesday, June 22, 2005


Hyperboles are really active weavils... right? I try to always pick the lesser of two weavils.


hyper MOLES baker, yer killing my pun.
Reply #46 Top
47 by BakerStreet
Wednesday, June 22, 2005


The whlole Rush and drugs thing is silly, anyway. If noteworthy Democratic political editorialists had to back off because they used drugs, would any be left?

Me, I'd put Rush's urine sample up against anyone from the Garafalo crew any day of the week. I wonder how clean Al Franken's blood was back in the old Saturday Night Live days...


is there anyone on the face of the planet that does not have something they are ashamed of in their past?
Reply #47 Top
"hyper MOLES baker, yer killing my pun."


nuh, nuh, nuh. BOLE as in bole weevil. No need to shift characters that way. and you get the 'lesser of two' pun to boot!!


"is there anyone on the face of the planet that does not have something they are ashamed of in their past?"


Nope, but the popular mouthpieces of the Liberal left often brandish their drug use like a banner, which makes it all the more sad when they jump on Rush.
Reply #48 Top

Me, I'd put Rush's urine sample up against anyone from the Garafalo crew any day of the week. I wonder how clean Al Franken's blood was back in the old Saturday Night Live days...

Franken has blood?  I thought it was ethanol.

Reply #49 Top

hyper MOLES baker, yer killing my pun.

I thought both were double groaners!

Reply #50 Top

Nope, but the popular mouthpieces of the Liberal left often brandish their drug use like a banner, which makes it all the more sad when they jump on Rush.

And very hypocritical when they tout Robert Downey Jr as a poster boy, while vilifying someone who did not set out to abuse drugs, just got caught by them.  I knew cocaine was bad before Downey went into rehab (went into rehab went into rehab....), but I was unaware of the insidiousness of Oxycontin until Rush admitted his addiction.  I am glad I have never had to take the stuff, and will try like hell to make sure I never have to.