High School students choice of ties nets him NO DIPLOMA

Yet another school administered by someone that needs to be FIRED!!

From The Washington Post, print edition, page B01 (Metro), June 11, 2005.

Student's choice to wear a bolo tie, to help celebrate his Native American Heritage, nets him NO DIPLOMA at his high school graduation.

Headline is linked.




Montana Leader Defends Bolo Ties

Governor Backs Md. Teen Denied Diploma


By Ann E. Marimow
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, June 11, 2005; Page B01



"In Montana and anyplace in Indian country, a bolo tie is dressed up. A tie is a tie," Gov. Brian Schweitzer says. (Photo credit: Office Of Gov. Brian Schweitzer)


A Charles County {Maryland} high school's decision to deny a diploma to a senior who wore a bolo tie to graduation didn't offend just the student and his family. Montana's governor is mighty annoyed, too.
"To have some high school say that a bolo tie is not a tie is an outrage," said Gov. Brian Schweitzer (D), who called The Washington Post yesterday after reading an article about 17-year-old Thomas Benya.
"In Montana and anyplace in Indian country, a bolo tie is dressed up," he said. "A tie is a tie."
Schweitzer, who has a collection of more than 30 string ties, called to encourage Benya yesterday and is sending him a Montana state bolo.
The Waldorf teenager first wore his black, braided tie to a graduation rehearsal Tuesday as a symbol of his Native American roots. His paternal grandmother's father and grandfather were born on a Cherokee reservation in Oklahoma.
But the principal at Maurice J. McDonough High School said the skinny tie with a silver clasp did not meet the school's definition of a tie. Benya wore it anyway. When he tried to collect his diploma after the ceremony Wednesday, he was told to schedule a conference with school administrators. Benya's parents said they are waiting for an apology from the school system.
The question of whether a bolo tie is a tie has been tricky to navigate, even in Western states where they are common attire. New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson (D), for instance, often wears one during television interviews. But in that state's legislature, the coat-and-tie requirement allows string ties on the floor of the Senate but not the House.
Former Colorado senator Ben Nighthorse Campbell, an American Indian and a jewelry designer, is perhaps one of the most well known bolo boosters. He said yesterday he remembers asking then-House Speaker Jim Wright for permission to break with tradition in 1987.
"It was never contested. No one ever complained," Campbell said.
"It seems to me that if the U.S. Congress and the U.S. Senate give latitude to members of the highest body in the land, a high school shouldn't be so uptight to deny a kid his cultural right to wear a different type of neckwear," he said.
The school system might reconsider the bolo's status for the next graduation.
"Do I think the schools might take a look at it next year? Sure. Will they change it? I don't know," system spokeswoman Katie O'Malley-Simpson said. "The incident will give principals something to think about."




The original article about this miscarriage of fairness and justice is found in the following Washington Post article. Again, headline is linked.




Cultural Tie Gets in the Way Of Graduation

Md. Boy Wearing Bolo Is Denied a Diploma

By Ann E. Marimow
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, June 10, 2005; Page B01



Thomas Benya says the bolo tie he wore to graduation for Charles County's McDonough High School reflects his heritage. (Photo Credit: By Mark Gail -- The Washington Post)


Thomas Benya wore a braided bolo tie under his purple graduation gown this week as a subtle tribute to his Native American heritage.
Administrators at his Charles County school decided the string tie was too skinny. They denied him his diploma, at least temporarily, as punishment.
The bolo, common in contemporary American Indian culture, is not considered a tie by his public school in Pomfret. If Benya wants the diploma, he will have to schedule a conference with the administrators.
What his parents say they want is an apology from Maurice J. McDonough High School for embarrassing their son and failing to respect the Cherokee background of his father's ancestors.
"The schools in Charles County are asking him to ignore his heritage," Marsha Benya said as she turned to face her 17-year-old son. "I want you to be proud of it."
"I am proud of it," he said, sitting in her real estate office in Waldorf, where he plans to work this summer before enrolling at the College of Southern Maryland.
The high school is sticking to its policy. The dress code is mandatory for seniors who choose to participate in the graduation ceremony. And Benya was told during a dress rehearsal Tuesday that his black bolo with a silver and onyx clasp the size of a silver dollar was "not acceptable."
"We have many students with many different cultural heritages, and there are many times to display that," said school district spokeswoman Katie O'Malley-Simpson.
"But graduation is a time when we have a formal, uniform celebration. If kids are going to participate, they need to respect the rules."
Controversies over student attire at graduation are perennial, and school districts try to avoid confusion by sending letters to parents and seniors months in advance. In Prince George's County, for example, graduating seniors are told "they are not to wear any kind of additional accents," said schools spokesman John White.
"We set the standard to make sure all our ceremonies are formal and respectful," he said.

In March, Benya's high school sent a letter to parents and seniors explaining that "adherence to the dress code is mandatory," with the word mandatory in bold and underlined. For girls: white dresses or skirts with white blouses. For boys: dark dress pants with white dress shirts and ties. That left Benya's classmates free to wear bright orange, red and striped ties under their gowns at the ceremony Wednesday at the Show Place Arena in Upper Marlboro. One senior girl wore a headscarf and long pants for religious reasons. "The First Amendment protects religion, and we do everything possible to honor that," O'Malley-Simpson said. "There is nothing that requires us to follow everyone's different cultures."




... emphasis added

.... more at both linked articles


Notice the emphasized section above -- it gives away exactly what the problem is: we have school administrators that want to behave like Gestapo and insist that our children must be little automatons that must look alike, sound alike, behave alike, etc. (Worse yet, most of them want those students to be programmed as liberals that will support their public schools and educational system, with it's biases towards liberalism, but that's a subject for a different article).

I have mixed feelings on the desire to make things uniform in schools, as I actually support the use of uniforms for most schools. Uniforms in schools tend to keep down some problems, and make things easier on parents who are left with only having to worry about washing the uniform, rather than making sure their kids aren't going to school wearing gang colors or wearing clothing with objectionable messages.

But some common sense and reason must be applied to enforcing policies like this. Do we really want to make school graduations about the uniform? About the pomp and circumstance?

I'm reminded of my own daughter's recent "advancement ceremony" when she was to be leaving elementary school and moving on to middle school. The Principal, known very well as a dictatorial type, deemed that clapping, cheering, hooting and hollering during the ceremony would cause the entire program to be stopped immediately. Can't have a celebration really be a celebration. Never mind letting our children know that we're happy and proud of and for them. Doing that would ruin the atmosphere. Someone that didn't get cheered for might feel bad. I so wanted to just let out a few boos and cat calls at the "congratulatory celebration" that was added in when other school employees "recognized" the fact that the Principal was leaving the school and moving on to another location. I'm sure that those employees really were overjoyed at the thought that wicked witch was being sent away.

In anycase, the pictures above speak volumes. Are these "ties" acceptable? Does the school system owe this student and his family (and hell, for that matter, all Native American's) an apology? You betcha!
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This goes way beyond stupidity. I happen to own and wear several bolo ties myself. Not so much because my paternal grandmother was full-blooded Apache, but just because I like them.
What's next? Is this morinic school going to start dictating what color of tie? Are they going to measure the width of the tie? Will students be denied a diploma because they don't wear the correct brand of socks?
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Oh my gawd, I had missed these section of the original article:



David Rocah, a staff lawyer with the American Civil Liberties Union of Maryland, said there are limits to those rights. Carrying political placards or wearing a clown suit to graduation would presumably be disruptive. The question, he said, is whether a bolo tie under a gown is disruptive.
"There's nothing wrong with wanting graduation to be a formal occasion," he said, "but the idea that everyone should look the same -- they're not all the same."
Rocah called the school's interpretation a "narrow and cramped view of personal autonomy."




Benya grew up hearing stories about his paternal grandmother's father and grandfather, who lived in dismal conditions on a Cherokee reservation in Oklahoma. He attends powwows and has worn an heirloom turquoise and silver bracelet for as long as he can remember.


The first section there scares the crap outta me. Someone from the ACLU (normally Americans without a CLUE) actually seems to be saying something I agree with. Forgive me a second while I catch my breath, and my heart gets back to regular beating. I think I missed a few at that thought.

The second section actually just further documents that this wasn't a publicity stunt. The boy has been trying to respect his heritage for a long time. For that, he deserves support. Not idiotic administrative hassles. Perhaps he should have just worn a tie with a big middle finger on it. At least then he would have met the stupid dress code to the letter.

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I can speak to this one, as I DID wear a bolo tie to my graduation (no joke...I hated ties, and bucked the requirement by picking out a VERY nice and fairly pricey bolo tie...I DID want it to be appropriate to the occasion, after all).

If I had been told "no diploma", that would have been ridiculous. I obeyed the stated rules, plain and simple.

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I can speak to this one, as I DID wear a bolo tie to my graduation (no joke...I hated ties, and bucked the requirement by picking out a VERY nice and fairly pricey bolo tie...I DID want it to be appropriate to the occasion, after all).


I fall in a similar place as you do Gid. I hate ties. Having them around my neck just reminds me that I am giving a handle to someone that they can use as a leash if desired (I had that happen to me back in Catholic school days many moons ago).

I'm also consistently going in and out of computer systems and other equipment that would love to grab neck ornaments and pull them into the machinery so I could be choked to death by the machines.

Personally, I am really thankful that the The Washington Post actually included the photo though. It makes it much easier to make judgement here, and to point out the stupidity.

I am really left wondering if the school received even one comment from any one in attendance at the ceremony complaining about the boy's tie? I doubt that they did, and more suspect that some tight-azz administrator saw the bolo and went ballistic.
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A little self-respect would go a long way to prevent these situations.

Do you think the school in question thought for half a second about how this would make them look? You would think they would say "Hey, wait, this kid is going to raise hell and then we'll look like idiots for being picky about a tie."

All I can think is that they imagine they function in a vaccuum and no one is going to find out what kind of assholes they are. Denying a kid the joy of his only High School graduation because of a fashion difference should cause people to lose their jobs.
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Denying a kid the joy of his only High School graduation because of a fashion difference should cause people to lose their jobs.


Bingo. If they had made it clear that bolo ties were not welcome, I would feel differently. But I know that using my personal experience they said that all of the young men were to wear button up shirts, slacks and a tie. No jeans, no tshirts, no tennies were the only "hard and fast" rules for us. This student did not knowingly violate a school policy, and in fact, was in full compliance with the school's policy. Loss of jobs should definitely be the order of the day; if this young man's family spent much money to travel to his graduation only to be humiliated, I frankly don't see a lawsuit as being out of line, either.
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Denying a kid the joy of his only High School graduation because of a fashion difference should cause people to lose their jobs.


Actually Baker, it seems that technically they did let the boy go through the graduation, they just refused to give out the diploma.

Most schools in Maryland seem to use that trick. They let kids go through the ceremony, but they get an empty diploma holder at the ceremony. After the ceremony is over, they student goes off to obtain their diploma from the administrators. At that point, if someone hasn't turned back in all of their books, destroyed one by accident (or on purpose) or has some other debt to the school, the administration can hold the diploma until the problem is rectified.

I don't mind that approach, as it is much less confrontational and allows all students to participate in the ceremony. Typically the problems are handled quietly, without much fuss and embarassment to those involved.

In this case though, it seems that the student was doing fine, up until the ceremony was actually conducted, and then his choice of tie just didn't sit well with the school administrators.

I'm in complete agreement with you though that this administrator, or group of administrators, felt they were working in a vacuum. I'm sure they never expected the picture to be printed, or the issue to make it into the newspaper. Even if it had, I'm sure they figured it was simply local news, for the small newspapers in the area, rather than in the Washington Post, which is fairly prestigious, and seen throughout the country.

I hope those folk enjoy their time in the national news (which is sure to follow on something like FOX News), where they can do many mea culpas.
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I frankly don't see a lawsuit as being out of line, either.


Same thoughts here, which is funny given the school spokesperson's comments noting that they support the first ammendment, religious freedoms, etc.

This seems like an obvious slap across the face of the boy's religious and cultural up-bringing. Congrats to the school district for that one. I'm sure they have deep pockets to use to pay for their mis-deeds. Perhaps the boy will actually benefit and will get enough of a payout to cover his attendance at his choice of establishments of higher learning.

Better yet though would be for the administrator(s) involved to have to personally pay a fine in the form of a very large donation to scholarships for persons of Native American descent. Perhaps their wasted salary would help others that really deserve a chance at a higher education.
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Sure, he went through the ceremony, but it was also used to punish. When he thinks back to it, he's going to remember the fact that he was denied his diploma.

Maybe that isn't as bad as being barred, but schools shouldn't use these life-affirming moments as punishment. Graduations, weddings, etc., are the only formal events most American's have to mark their lives. If someone earned the right to be handed a diploma, only a (numerous expletives deleted) would bar him from that because he chose to wear the wrong kind of tie.

I don't care if he sues, I don't care if they decide he isn't owed anything. People who so easily walk roughshod over the lives of kids need to lose their jobs, though, and if I were the governor I wouldn't be satisfied with less than seeing them in the unemployment line.
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and if I were the governor I wouldn't be satisfied with less than seeing them in the unemployment line.


The thing is that the Governor that is mentioned in the first article is from the mid-west area. Definitely not the governor of Maryland.

I suspect that the governor of Maryland would love to take the action you mention, but then again the liberal media in the state is already constantly harrassing him about some firings he's already put into effect (along with carrying on a battle with them effectively blocking all access to their main mouthpiece, The Baltimore Sun).
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I would think Liberals would be outraged by this. Doesn't the ACLU deal with schools that have repressive dress codes, etc?

If I were a principal at something as important to kids as a graduation, and saw one with a bolo on, I'd have too much respect for MYSELF than to be a jerk to them. I wouldn't want to be remembered as someone who did something like this.

You'd think they'd have more shame.
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I would think Liberals would be outraged by this. Doesn't the ACLU deal with schools that have repressive dress codes, etc?


I am outraged. What kind of morons are these?

It's a tie, you morons. It's not like he brought a gun to grad and tried to shoot up the place.

He graduated. Give him his damn diploma. Don't deny him it because of a tie that reflects his culture.

"This isn't the first time they tried to have uniformity in schools. I seen them do it in old newsreels form the 1930s. but they were hard to understand because they were in German!" -George Carlin

I am so amazed at their stupidity and assholishness that I can barely form coherent sentences to argue this.