Terri Schiavo

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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,8122-1618268,00.html
from JoeUser Forums

Quote from the source of socialized medicine:

THE National Health Service should not have to give life- prolonging treatment to every patient who demands it because that would mean a crippling waste of resources, the Government said yesterday

So yesterday it was a poor incoherant woman.  Today it is a coherant one. Tomorrow?

Let the ones that opened this pandora's box defend it.

Ooops! He could speak!  Sorry ghouls.

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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top
That was a bunch of ignorant fools!
Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top
Another reason to shun socialized health care. When it is between you and your doctor, it is just between you and your doctor. When the taxpayers pay for it, you have to convince your neighbors you are worth keeping alive.

I've lost all faith in the human race in the last year. God help us with whatever is coming to snap us back to reality. It seems every few hundred years something horrid has to appear to make us remember that we are mortal and not gods on earth.

Maybe it'll be another black death, who knows. I have no doubt it will be something, though. You just don't shake your fist at nature/God/whatever and pretend you are the ones who make the rules.
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Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top

That was a bunch of ignorant fools!

And the democrats want us to model our health care on that?

Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top

Another reason to shun socialized health care. When it is between you and your doctor, it is just between you and your doctor. When the taxpayers pay for it, you have to convince your neighbors you are worth keeping alive.

A new murder method.  Death by indifference.

Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top
um... I don't know about abandoing social heath care because of this. I think this statement above in the article merely states the reality that life costs money. This is a human concept that we live with every day. Lawyers have a sheet of how much to ask for when someone hurts someone else, we have a health care system that has to decide when to stop spending money.

That is the way it has been. Captialism works best so far, but the reality is that it puts a money value on everything from how much a baby costs (250,000) to keeping you and I alive.

You wonder why people keep trying to come up with a different solution?
Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top
To quote Stan Marsh,

"It was right for the wrong reasons, and wrong for the right reasons."

Let's just let her rest in peace, after all, she deserves it.
Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top

You wonder why people keep trying to come up with a different solution?

the problem is the solutions entail government, and as we have seen with the Viagra debacle, that is the worst solution.

This one just punctuates that belief.

Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top
i've mentioned this elsewhere but it seems germane to this discussion as well. it used to be americans inevitably rejected whatever benefits nationalized health might provide rather than surrender the freedom to choose their own doctors and/or hospitals.

if only they'd known then how quickly they'd have that choice taken from them by private sector managed care corporations which would also diminish the authority of medical professionals to select a course of treatment based on medical rather than financial considerations.

who coulda envisioned a day when we'd no longer be able to spite our faces unless a nosectomy was deemed cost-effective according to the arbitrary standards approved by an office fulla beancounters?
Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top
Insightful point Kingbee. Honestly with HMOs it is difficult to tell the actual service from socialized care, we just pay more for it...
Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top

who coulda envisioned a day when we'd no longer be able to spite our faces unless a nosectomy was deemed cost-effective according to the arbitrary standards approved by an office fulla beancounters?

But it was Ted Kennedy and the democrats who begat this monstrosity.  The road to hell............

Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top

Insightful point Kingbee. Honestly with HMOs it is difficult to tell the actual service from socialized care, we just pay more for it...

Yes.  And it was the baby step on the way to Hillary care.  And yet they refuse to learn.

So we suffer for their good intentions.