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Ok If the Chinese won't help

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It seems like the RED Chinese will not help curb their running maddog, North Korea, I mean what do they care if they go nucular?

The North Koreans missles will be pointed at Japan and America so what does China get for stopping this madman jong from being a threat?

When will America see that China does not give a flying fig if america falls? They will simply market their goods to Europe, land of cowards.

Here is what America Needs to do, Offer to share our nucular technology, with Japan, Tiawan and South Korea, not give them the
Know how to make nukes, give them nukes and the system to deliver them.

Now China has something to lose, big time.
China HATES japan and has never forgiven the Japanses for WW2, The Japanese feel the same about the chinese.

Now 3 countries surrounding China will be armed with nukes, China will not like that, having these countries aiming missles at them as well as at their lapdog,. North Korea.

So If we state our intentions to arm these 3 traditional enemies of China, China will "see" the wisdom of keeping nukes OUT of North Koreas hands. Period. Self Preservation a huge Push to some common sense.


Ps, will post in a day or 2 about todays dr. visit, >
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Reply #26 from JoeUser Forums Top
" that article is 7 years old. dunno if you've seen any of the the fairly recent series of documentaries (the dragon awakes or somethin like that...with like 8 or 9 hourlong parts) that focus on china after 2001."


Yes, they've learned to be much more subtle and hide their monstrosity since they ramped up the PR to get into the WTO. Surely you aren't naive enough to believe their propaganda...
Reply #27 from JoeUser Forums Top
the most wide-open, go-west-young-man kinda place in the world just might be shanghai. altho i've sorta lost touch with her, that zimbabwe chick who was teaching esl in china and i were talking pretty regularly for about 6 months. she's lived in the states previously (at least one of her brothers is here permanently)so it aint her first trip to the big city. a lot of what she said seemed to correspond with what i was seein on whatever cable station was running that series.
Galactic Civilizations IV
Reply #28 from JoeUser Forums Top
From what I've read, though, the Chinese government are masters of that sort of thing. People's neighbors disappear, and no one talks about it, even if they know why. The lady next door gets escorted away, and your life continues peacefully while she gets rubber-hosed to death for talking to you about her religion.

The Falon Gong problem there is a good example. A soldier walks up to you, asks if you are a practicioner. Since your religion requires you to tell the truth, you say yes. "Order" is paramount. If people knew or acknowledged the horrific machine that keeps that order it would admit that there is a lot of disorder. People enjoy peace, and don't ask questions.

Maybe they are a long way in time from the purges, but I believe devoutely they could start them back up again without a second thought.
Reply #29 from JoeUser Forums Top
Mod,

I was giving King his props on bringing up the 6 country negotiations.
Reply #30 from JoeUser Forums Top
Maybe they are a long way in time from the purges, but I believe devoutely they could start them back up again without a second thought.


i'm with ya there. that whole anti-japanese movement was shut down with amazing speed once it had accomplished its purpose in order (i'm guessing) to ensure it wouldnt accidentally trip over any new targets.
Reply #31 from JoeUser Forums Top
Unbelievable. Unfrickinbelievable. I have to be seeing things. Let me clean my glasses. Nope, still there. In this day and age of terror threats you actually suggest giving away nuclear warheads to three more nations? You take the typical American route where more violence will stop the violence. That more bombs in Iraq will bring peace. That more men in Iraq would bring stability. What total insane thinking. Spreading nuclear bombs around Asia. Real smart idea. To think that you have to be young and ignorant with no sense of history. Iraq was America's friend. The US gave him illegal WMD. Iraq later becomes an enemy. Russia invades Afghanistan. US supports and supplies Osama Bin Laden and the future Taliban with some top-of-the-line portable missle launchers to fight the Russians. Osama and the Taliban become America's enemy. Do you understand that concept? People have to think more rationally with an overall better sense of reality and real history. American pilots are getting shot down by American supplied rocket launchers. Many Soviet weapons as well, and I will be doing a report on that one soon. The whole concept of raising the number of nations that have nuclear weapons is insane at best and typical thinking at worst.
Reply #32 from JoeUser Forums Top

except the ceasefire of 1953,whats to lose doc?

They already violated that many times.  But to answer your question.  Our soul.  Becoming that which we fight against means they win.

Reply #33 from JoeUser Forums Top

If you look into it there is a cultural war going on with the Chinese over their shared history as well. I

Actually, the Koreans are descended from the Japanese, not Chinese. Or actually the Japanese are descended from the Koreans (and thus the rivalry and hatred).

Reply #34 from JoeUser Forums Top
You're saying I am just making it up? lol.. whatever...
Reply #35 from JoeUser Forums Top

You're saying I am just making it up? lol.. whatever...

Who are you responding to?  If me, I accuse nothing.  I only clarify and edumacate.

Reply #36 from JoeUser Forums Top
You take the typical American route where more violence will stop the violence.


Wrong! It's the threat of violence
Reply #37 from PolMach Forums Top
China will never let it happen let Korea have a bomb. They want the US to invade or strike North Korea before the completion of the bomb, so we look like the bad guys. If that nut called Kim gets a bomb, he is most likely to use it. Giving the US a perfect pretext to take out North Korea, with out looking like the bad guy and giving China one less ally in Asia. Expect that if North Korea test a bomb that a very bad accident will soon follow destroying the program. Then China could blame on the US or Japan for the accident too if they pulled it off right.

Not only will Korea use a bomb to never have to worry about an attack from South Korea or the US. But they may stop being as much of a lapdog to China too. Another thing China don't want (i.e. a cocky Korea).
Reply #38 from PolMach Forums Top
but it's not europe negociating with the N.K. its russia , japan, south K, china and america, as usual europe is sitting on the sidelines


I know that, but with their anti-nuke views and pecae views, having two, three or so more countires with nukes would make them a little uneasy, especially if their relations with those countries are only "so-so" ......


Reply #31 By: Reiki-House - 5/12/2005 11:37:12 AM


I think giving, SK,Japan, and maybe other countries nukes, the only negative is whether they are rational enough to not use one, other wise i think it would result in MAD, Mutually Assured Destruction, [i.e. opponent builds weapon, we build bigger and better one]...for the most part it keeps either countries form lobbing one over thier border at each other, because if they did, then buh-bye earth/country...best anagram i've ever heard...
Reply #39 from JoeUser Forums Top
sorry about abondening my blogsite for a bit, but needed some space and took off to a friends home for an overnighter, reading all
you guys {kindbee docguy and baker mostly} but a few others shows me why I just love free discussion, It constantly makes me think out of my own box, a huge thankyou too all that replied here {even if I did not agree with some}

Reiki.. there IS NOTHING america can do to please you. ever. get a life. will ya? and stop bashing my country, you unamerican hatrer of all things american foreigner.
Reply #40 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: thatoneguyinslcPosted: Thursday, May 12, 2005Mod,I was giving King his props on bringing up the 6 country negoti


gotcha.. sorry.
Reply #41 from Stardock Forums Top

This artical is a perfect example of how if people like you were to ever get into a position of power the US would probably die a slow horrible death. The artical sounds like something Osama Bin Larden would write. And also when you call Reiki-House unAmerican you making the assumption that most Americans  think like you, which they obviously do not.

Reply #42 from PolMach Forums Top
Giving South Korea nukes has to be out of the question. One of North Korea's main targets is Seoul, the Capital of SOuth Korea. The North Koreans would pick up on the fact that we are supplying South Korea with missles and they would strike right off the bat.

As far as China goes, I compare China to the big kid that wants to fight the other big kid(U.S.) but wont because of all those kids buddies(U.N.). As long as the RED stays contained to China and North Korea(The little kid that picks fights and has no idea what they are getting into) I think we will be fine. But when the Red starts to spread again, we might have ourselves another Cold War
Reply #43 from PolMach Forums Top

You do realize, as long as the DPRK exists, there is just another defensive shield around PRC? If the USA is tied down in South Korea (more likely, due to how quickly they are likely to be owned) or Taiwan (less likely, due to a wierd string of death around the world - la fayette), the more protected PRC is in actuality?