Sounds like we should give George Bush a pass on just about every. He can't deal with foreign-policy. He went from a surplus to a budget deficit. He watched the trade deficit increase from 400 billion a year to 600 billion-a-year. He can not come up with a solution to Social Security the majority of people agree with. He can't seem to protect our borders. He can't fix Medicare and Medicaid. He can't stop the loss of American jobs to other countries. Seems like George W. Bush can not do much of anything.

I just hope we don't turn into the EU and roll over and allow everyone to do whatever they want. Europe has apparently decided that if a nation does something threatening, they will 1) try to bribe them--sorry, provide them "economic incentives" I believe is what they call it, and of then doesn't work then 2) let them do whatever the hell they want even if its a threat to their own security. Please, Dubya, don't let that happen.

He can not come up with a solution to Social Security the majority of people agree with

--Have the democrats, last i heard, it wasn't just the presidents responsability to come up with suggestions....congress needs to help.

He can't seem to protect our borders.

--When has any president been able to do that succesfully, try living down near the border, or talk to my step-brother...

He can't fix Medicare and Medicaid

--Both were fine when started, but then those in charge F**ked it up...[not referring to bush]

He can't stop the loss of American jobs to other countries.

--How can he stop the job loss, what is he supposed to do, ban job exporting, do you know how many people would cry fowl...., its the companies faults, they are going to continue to go elswhere if it is cheaper...

Bush is the one that brought up Social Security and suggestions to solve the problem that make it worse. I would like to see some additional solutions brought up from both Democrats and a moderate Republicans. The issue of Medicare and Medicaid were never resolved and fact are much bigger problems of Social Security and Bush ignores Medicare and Medicaid as if the problems don't exist. After 9/11 to say the president of the United States can't take action to protect our borders is lame. Bush said he needed 10,000 more border guards and then fails to ask for the money to hire them. WHY? He had China added to the WTO even though the negotiations started during Clinton administration. China now accounts for one third of our total trade deficit. China violates the trade agreement, currency exchange and property rights and the president fails to use the corrective options he does have under the trade agreements. Bush does nothing as China has destroyed our clothing industry. Now the Chinese are going to attack automobiles - General Motors and Ford are next. I notice you didn't mention the federal deficit. I guess Bush had nothing to do with that either. Based on what Bush has not got control over why do we need the president at least not one is is an effective as George W. Bush has been. We can consider outsourcing the office of President to China, India or maybe Mexico.

I see this is another chat with a crazy bush hater. no matter what you say all you get back is the same insane answer
how's the weather?

BUSH BUSH BUSH ....BAD BAD BAD

How was your trip?

BUSH SUSH BUSH BUSH BAD BAD BAD ..

How is your wife?

BUSH BUSH BUSH BAD WRONG BUSH BUSH BUSH,
WHY do you guys keep trying to reason with the unreasonable?

It is NOT my job to deal with North Korea and Iran. It is on the other hand the responsibility of Bush to effectively deal with these countries. Talk is fine if it works but it has not done a thing for either situation. Bush rushes to war with a country that was no real threat and talks with two others that are a threat to the United States. IT is "you boy" who needs to get a grip and try some policies that work for a change.

You just don't seem to get it, do you? If talking ain't working then it's time for "action". And in this case action means conflict. So when that happens does that mean we're not going to hear about it from you?

If you mean military action your crazy. There's only one way to control North Korea is to get China to cut off their food and oil without which North Korea simply cannot exist. In order to do that it may be action to start discussing the nuclear Japan or nuclear South Korea which might very well move China into pressuring North Korea says they would not want to see either a nuclear Japan or nuclear South Korea. The problem is Bush just talks in North Korea and goes to war in Iraq which was no threat to the United States. All you Bushies ever do is say Bush bashing every time there is a suggestion that what Bush is doing is not working. It has nothing to do with disliking George W. Bush it has everything to do with the fact that what he is doing is not resolving the issues at hand. To continue going down a path that leads to a cliff is stupid. That is exactly what we're doing in our foreign policy, our federal deficit, Social Security, border security, Medicare and Medicaid and practically every other issue that faces our country.

It's true the "I'm a war president" was another stupid statement in a long list of stupid Bush statements and pronouncements. Mission accomplished is something a war-tested veteran has the right to say. Not a war dodger like Bush.

COL Gene, I have a question for you that I would like you to clarify for me. It seems you have pretty clearly asserted that military action in North Korea is not an option ("If you mean military action your crazy"). Since it's a safe bet China will not be of any significant assistance in curbing North Korean activity--they have been fairly clear about that--what last resort option to you advocate (you can't have a discussion with dictators like Kim Jong Il without the threat of negative consequences)? It seems what you are saying is you want to move nukes into the Korean peninsula in order to pressure China to pressure North Korea, which odds are overwhelming will not happen. Moving nukes into the peninsula also removes the diplomatic high ground from the U.S. by giving the N. Korean's a reason to retaliate. I'm a firm believer in credibility and backing up the statements you make, but it sounds like from the get-go, IYO, military action is off the table, and consequently if we get stared down--which tyrannts tend to do--we have no recourse, and thus the N Koreans are free to hand out nuclear materials left and right like they have already done. Isn't that the worst-case scenario we're trying to avoid, since I hope we learned our lesson on 9/11/01?

Just need clarification

There's only one way to control North Korea is to get China to cut off their food and oil without which North Korea simply cannot exist.

--Well Mr. informative, why don't i buy you a ticket to China, and you can take care of that for us...hmmm?

--A nuclear SK might not be bad, could take care of NK for evryone...*plop* there's another missle at ya NK...[not really, they'd be screwing themselves too]

The problem is Bush just talks in North Korea and goes to war in Iraq which was no threat to the United States. All you Bushies ever do is say Bush bashing every time there is a suggestion that what Bush is doing is not working. It has nothing to do with disliking George W. Bush it has everything to do with the fact that what he is doing is not resolving the issues at hand. To continue going down a path that leads to a cliff is stupid. That is exactly what we're doing in our foreign policy, our federal deficit, Social Security, border security, Medicare and Medicaid and practically every other issue that faces our country.

--Last i heard the problem was NK and Nukes...coulda fooled me, seriously though, this confrontation all comes down to NK...period. not bush's ability in negotiation. BTW, I prefer Bushite, and i have rarely said anything about BBing.

--Also, you say that you don't like bush cause what he is doing isn't working, then tell me; did you like clinton, Bush sr., Carter, Nixion, Reagon,etc... some of these problems existed back then, [some slowly coming about]...yet these presidents did "un-effective" things...hmmm? [BTW i'm not daying this because i think bush is doing an awesome job, i like him because of his steadfast morals, you hardly see that in poloticians...unlike,NIXON, and others...*cCLoINuTOghON* ,J/K

Referring to RH's statement [i really don't feel like manually quoting right now] :

--No Doubt, some one would turn out this way, if raised by such a strictly conservative family, i know....i was raised in the deep bowls of the 'republican/conservative stronghold' of oregon [Ironically, now, because of emigration/immigration with people flocking to the Portland, and Willamette area[and a few other areas], they out vote our Conservative SH, in every election, thats why oregon is always Blue in the Pres. Election....

If you mean military action your crazy. There's only one way to control North Korea is to get China to cut off their food and oil

You still are not using your head. And just how in the hell are you going to get China to do that? Threaten to send them to their room?

Actually Miler there is one way...TRADE EMBARGO!

The Chinese cannot afford to be cut off from our market. Japan as well. If we were to threaten it, i think they might be receptive to helping us with North Korea.

Actually Miler there is one way...TRADE EMBARGO!

--Not necessarily, two things: they have been industrializing,though not enough to meet needs, still would rely on other countries [not necessarily the us only] and, They could just as easily go to europe or other places for needs...

altho it's a little late in the game to start considering this now...nk's mountains are honeycombed with huge bunkers in which they plan to wait out any nuke attack. i doubt threats are gonna do much more than make em head for the mattresses.

of course it was incredibly important we didnt drop the 6 nation negotiation demand. we done showed them.

America and Japan are the two largest buyers of Chinese goods. If we pull the plug on the market for said goods. They are in a lot of trouble Lucas!

King is right about The North Koreans. Ever yell at a snarling dog? They just become more vicious.

drmiler

Stop buying products from China. Work with others to stop supplying them with the raw materials they need for starters.

It's up to him not Bill Clinton.

---COLGene

Yes, but it was....and what did Slick Willie do instead of taking a hard line with them and making them back down? He did what he always did...avoided unpopularity at home and resolved the crisis by giving them everything they asked for and more.
I figure he knew he'd be out of office before the check came due, and somebody else could pay the tab, whoever it might have been. We're just lucky it happens to be a conservative Republican who isn't afraid of unpopularity or to make hard choices.

Add isn't afraid to make insane and irrational foreign policy decisions to your list Rightie.

Add isn't afraid to make insane and irrational foreign policy decisions to your list Rightie

That remains to be seen, doesn't it?

We have a president with a extreme agenda which ignores what the vast majority want done. I don't consider that lucky.

I have the solution.. nuke-em.. n.k. china. russia.. iran.. and anyone else that pisses ME off today..

where you from again reiki?

America and Japan are the two largest buyers of Chinese goods. If we pull the plug on the market for said goods. They are in a lot of trouble Lucas!

--True, they may have a little trouble, but then france and some other countries are trying to get a ban on china [i read it on a forum here a while ago] so if it does work,[the ban falling] then china could find others,[they still could with the ban on...]

We have a president with a extreme agenda which ignores what the vast majority want done. I don't consider that lucky.

Your opinion only! Stop presuming to know what the majority of Americans want/think.

Well will know more about why Iraq was invaded in the future. Perhaps there was a better ulterior motive.