MOO2 like miniaturization of components possible?

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One very good feature of MOO2 has been the miniaturization concept for the most items (not for fighters or antimissiles - grmpff) ) Is this possible in Galciv II too?

Example Miniballs 2 kost 10 tons per cannon to build in and if you go up the research tree, Miniballs 2 cost only 8 tons per cannon.

This leads to some very intreesting decisions. Should I integrate the new but expensive super cannon or should I stick to the older but cheaper one?
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Reply #1 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
I have the idea the weapons we see in Beta 1 are simply conceptual, to prove out the concept of different weapon types and matching defenses - to see if they can make the multi-type weapon vs multi-type defense code work. Once they are satisfied with that, I suspect we will see some changes in weapon names and characteristic sizes, potencies, cost/bang, etc. This is all a typical approach for Stardock - Work the bugs out of the basics, then dress it up.
Reply #2 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
A very nice mod to Space Empires-IV called DarkNova-4 takes this concept in an excellent direction. The basic idea is one called "Mounts", which modifes the various ship componants:
* Premium Quality part; expensive but sleightly superior
* Low Quality part; half-price but sleightly bigger and prone to breakdowns and supply usage.
* Mini - expensive method of squeezing more of a part into a hull
With many mount variants, an almost continuous range is available in SEIV/DN4
Sins of a Solar Empire II
Reply #3 from GalCiv2 Forums Top

Also, we do have a miniturization tech which will allow you to fit more on your ships. 

Reply #5 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
But does it scale as you go up the tech tree Carielf?
Reply #6 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
In Beta 1, it seems to be a seperate tech, rather then the automatic refining (such as MoO uses). Of course, Beta1 is very early, so perhaps it is just a place holder?
Reply #7 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
I guess the main interest of going up the tech tree in a particular weapon field is having the possibility to have more firepower for a given room on a ship. If ships had an infinite room for equipment, one could build very powerfuls shipd by just adding an normous number of basic weapons. But ships have a limited room so with a given tech level, firepower is limited too. But with advanced techs, more powerful items become available. I suppose tere must be some kind of advantage in using advanded weapons instead of basic weapons, such as more compact items...