Lets keep the name calling to as little as possible here. I seldom (if ever) strait out call people names and object to others doing so on my thread. It does not matter who or where a person started it, it does not help a make any point other then making it harder for others to willingly support the views of the offender. There are many times I would like to back some one up, but change my mind after the name calling begins. Thanks you for posting on my thread, but mind your manors. Lee1776

I try to Lee1776. But after awhile of hearing the same stuff over and over, I just get sick of it and snap.

You want a perfect example? Just look at his replies to your original thread. Do you hear him saying *anything* positive?

I agree that name-calling generally does not solve anything. It is however difficult to read some of the drivel that a few people post on this blog site. Facts are facts. I am not saying that all the results that Bush is produced are negative but what I am say is that anyone who can defend the trade deficit, the federal deficit, loss of industries because of our trade policy, the situation in Iraq, gas prices, the lack of border security as things that benefit the country astound me. I understand Bush did not create all the situations but what I am saying is it is his policies are not making them better or resolving the problems that he inherited. He's a person that continues to march down the path even when the path leads to a cliff. many of the people on this blog site are just a stupid because they follow Bush over the cliff.

. I am not saying that all the results that Bush is produced are negative

To the contrary *col* you most certainly do. And while I'm not defending the things you quoted I am NOT going to use each and every one of them to bash the current administration like you do! And you want to talk about drivel? I'm quite sure I could find a goodly number of people on JU from both sides that would classify most if not all of you posts as "drivel". The only reason you get the replies that you do, is that most of us can not let the "drivel" go unchallenged

You never challange the facts I present you just put up excuses or present irrelevant issues. For example explain how we went from a sizable surplus to a huge deficit in the last four years. Explain how the trade deficit rose almost $200 billion dollars during the last four years. explained why we are more dependent on foreign energy and pay much higher gasoline prices over the last four years. Explain why political polarization in this country worse than ever. Everyone these things have taken place - why?

Reply #29 By: COL Gene - 5/6/2005 2:53:37 PM You never challange the facts I present you just put up excuses or present irrelevant issues.

Now your stating that your below statement about my original post is excuses or present irrelevant issues? example:

Reply #6 By: COL Gene - 5/5/2005 11:01:57 AM how can we be running surplus a $54 billion when we had a annual projected budget deficit of 425 billion which fails to account $50 billion of the supplemental that Bush requested for the Iraq war? What we have is a temporary spike in collections we do not have a surplus. A surplus is when you collect more than you spend which is not what is happening with the United States federal budget

I set this post up as a complete opposite of some negative postings as of late. I have responded, just as you have done on this post, but with a few more links and facts.

Col Gene I'm not trying to single you out, but you do this more often then others. I see both sides (left/right) do the same thing, some times people want to stick to their guns no matter what, even when common since slaps them in the face. Some times no matter what side your on backing away from an issue may be good and repeating it again and again just frustrate every body even those who are sympathetic to ones cause.

Also a comment to every body is to remember that there is some middle ground some times. While no the surplus is not going to continue each quarter, but it maybe an indication that thing could on the improving side. Now that is what area of debate should be coming out of the bear facts of this article and what is covered more in Terp‘s article at: .Link

You never challange the facts I present you just put up excuses or present irrelevant issues. For example explain how we went from a sizable surplus to a huge deficit in the last four years. Explain how the trade deficit rose almost $200 billion dollars during the last four years. explained why we are more dependent on foreign energy and pay much higher gasoline prices over the last four years. Explain why political polarization in this country worse than ever. Everyone these things have taken place - why?

And *you* never bother to even try to comprehend what I write! WHAT PART OF I'M NOT DEFENDING AGAINST THE THINGS THAT YOU QUOTED DID YOU NOT UNDERSTAND? Do I need to slow down my typing for you? Your arrogance astounds even me.

There is no defense when you compare for example year after year the deficit rises and the policies were following do nothing to stem the red ink. How do you defend not protecting our borders. How do you defend a trade policy that shifts more and more jobs out of the country. How do you defend an energy policy that has done nothing to make us more energy independent and were the price of gasoline and oil is rising which is adversely affecting our economy. There is no defending the Bush policies because they simply aren't working. the only way to defend Bush is to ignore what is taking place.

There is no defense when you compare for example year after year the deficit rises and the policies were following do nothing to stem the red ink. How do you defend not protecting our borders. How do you defend a trade policy that shifts more and more jobs out of the country. How do you defend an energy policy that has done nothing to make us more energy independent and were the price of gasoline and oil is rising which is adversely affecting our economy. There is no defending the Bush policies because they simply aren't working. the only way to defend Bush is to ignore what is taking place.

Make up my damn mind! First you accuse me of defending and then say you can't. Get it together will ya? To you , even if I had a rational defense you'd still say there wasn't any! And BTW President Bush has absolutely NOTHING to do with the price of gas. You want energy independance? Tell the damn tree huggers and the dems to quit stone walling! We use approx 10% of the available resources. They won't let them drill, they won't let them build new reactors.... Just what the hell do you expect?

#29 by COL Gene Friday, May 06, 2005 Explain why political polarization in this country worse than ever.

Look in the mirror troll, your answer is right there.