"U.S. Has No Exit Strategy for Iraq, Rumsfeld Says"

headline, Bloomberg News, April 12

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000087&sid=aAzfzbHVpVa4&refer=top_world_news
from JoeUser Forums

Nice headline.  Did I grab your attention?  This must be serious, right?  I mean the Sec Def just admitted there was no exit strategy, right?  Horrors!  Shock!  Scandal.  But then read the article.  I call your attention to the second paragraph:

" 'We don't have an exit strategy, we have a victory strategy,' Rumsfeld told soldiers during a surprise visit to Baghdad, according to a pooled broadcast report from the capital. 'The goal is to help the Iraqi Forces develop the skills and the capacity to provide their own security.' "

Uh, huh.  And there is anyone out there that is going to try and argue that the mainstream media is not biased?

yea, right!  And I have some lake front property in Florida to sell you!

(Sorry, I already sold the bridge in Brooklyn to some other liberals.)

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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top
i bumped my shoulder on a doorway today. is that the fault of 'the left' too?
Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top

i bumped my shoulder on a doorway today. is that the fault of 'the left' too?

It depends.  Where you reading a Mainstream media article at the time?

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Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top
LOL

I knew there wasn't a exit strategy!!!

Of course they could not admit this when they wanted the action in Iraq to take place; people would have freaked out.
Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top
i bumped my shoulder on a doorway today. is that the fault of 'the left' too?


Nope, my fault!Link

LOL

I knew there wasn't a exit strategy!!!

Of course they could not admit this when they wanted the action in Iraq to take place; people would have freaked out.


Dude, did you read the article at all? You just completely missed everything he said. Sigh......

Try again, and this time get someone to help you with the words over four letters long.......
Reply #6 from PolMach Forums Top
Dude, did you read the article at all? You just completely missed everything he said. Sigh......

Try again, and this time get someone to help you with the words over four letters long.......


Hahaha. Not a very nice way to put it, Spc Nobody Special, but, I couldn't have said it better myself.

But, for a serious response, I use the Internet for all my news. Now, if you think the Internet is biased, you're just looking for excuses to blame someone else.
Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top
Now, if you think the Internet is biased, you're just looking for excuses to blame someone else.


News, internet or not, while seemingly factual, is subjective, having been filtered through a reporter's perspective. Blogs, opinion pages, etc., often lacking the accountability of a professional news agency are even more subjective. (Yes someone may call you on an error or mispresumption, but will you lose your job, be sued, or go out of business?)

And internet sources especially, are prone to using circular logic. It often contains a great deal of factual information, and opinions that "balance" by opposing each other.

However, any "hard data" about politics, government, etc. is best sorted from the multitude with a great deal of caution, especially when used to back up discussions of the war, government, etc. that tend to get people emotionally worked up.

Damned run-on sentences..........
Reply #8 from PolMach Forums Top
News, internet or not, while seemingly factual, is subjective, having been filtered through a reporter's perspective. Blogs, opinion pages, etc., often lacking the accountability of a professional news agency are even more subjective.

First off, I was directing the "excuses" comment at the guy who started this topic, not you. Haha.

Second off, that's true, but, I get my news from all over the place; not just from one source. So, the whole Internet can't be biased and/or untrue.

I often thought about starting a blog, but, it would just be me ranting about how smoking shouldn't be legal or posting theories on how the next pope will be the Antichrist.
Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top
the last victory strategy he had didn't pan out all that well. hopefully he's put a lil more thought into this one.

on which planet do main streamers even know bloomberg exists? which of them really expect more than financial coverage from bloomberg? is it a larger or smaller group than the one that reads vogue for up-to-the-minute sports coverage?
Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top
Of course they could not admit this when they wanted the action in Iraq to take place; people would have freaked out.


Yea, but the quote belied the title. That was my point. I unfortunately read the article to learn the real truth, but if you were just headline scanning, you would think we are there forever. Like Dabe and Boxer would have us beleive.
Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top
Hey, elitism isn't cool anymore. This is the nineties.


Wake up David! We passed the century!
Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top
But, for a serious response, I use the Internet for all my news. Now, if you think the Internet is biased, you're just looking for excuses to blame someone else.


Fortunately no, but the headlines are. That is the writers bias.
Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top

However, any "hard data" about politics, government, etc. is best sorted from the multitude with a great deal of caution, especially when used to back up discussions of the war, government, etc. that tend to get people emotionally worked up.

Well, I cant give you an insightful for brevity, but you did nail the whole issue with that thought.

Reply #14 from JoeUser Forums Top

First off, I was directing the "excuses" comment at the guy who started this topic, not you. Haha.

And in that you are barking up the wrong tree.  I printed the facts.  You want to deny them?  Go ahead.  Deny what was written ON THE INTERNET.

Dont shoot the messenger!

Reply #15 from JoeUser Forums Top

on which planet do main streamers even know bloomberg exists? which of them really expect more than financial coverage from bloomberg? is it a larger or smaller group than the one that reads vogue for up-to-the-minute sports coverage?

Well, at least you did not question the source.  SO I guess at the minimum it is a neutral and not right wing one?

Reply #16 from JoeUser Forums Top
My delightful little daughter Dabe- a little Dabe will do you (elbow & wink) - tells me Bushawitz and Chenyawitz (Israeli spies) never intended leaving Iraq after invading- at least not for a 100 or so years.
Reply #17 from JoeUser Forums Top
My delightful little daughter Dabe- a little Dabe will do you (elbow & wink) - tells me Bushawitz and Chenyawitz (Israeli spies) never intended leaving Iraq after invading- at least not for a 100 or so years.


Ok, non topic, but humorous. I will let it stand. please try to be more topical in the future.
Reply #18 from JoeUser Forums Top
SO I guess at the minimum it is a neutral and not right wing one?


the impression i had was that you were holding it up as an example of biased mainstream media--unless there's a new code book out, that phrase never means neutral or favorable to the right.
Reply #19 from JoeUser Forums Top
the impression i had was that you were holding it up as an example of biased mainstream media--unless there's a new code book out, that phrase never means neutral or favorable to the right.


Check the wink at the end. Note that usually means, I am joking.

You can call it any way you want, but when the headline is clearly deceptive to the meat of the article, then the writer's bias has intruded. Whether Bloomberg is biased is not the issue. But the writer clearly wanted to slam the administration by painting a false impression. That is bias.