What has Bush accomplished that helps us?

here I will give YOU the only answere you are going to accept anyways

Bush has done nothing. OK? feel better now?

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Bush has done many things. here are a few of them:

Cut Taxes
Granted Most favored nation trading to China
Increased the demands on our military
Helped pass the Prescription Drug Plan
Started a war

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Draginol

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Cutting taxes helps most Americans as most Americans received more money back.

It is that tax cut that paid for the extra developer which made JoeUser possible and hence your constant Butch bitching on-line possible...

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When the Fed cuts $1 in Federal Income taxes there must be growth of $4 in new taxable income to break even from the tax cut. That is not the result of the Bush tax cuts. The cuts to the middle income has helped grow the economy because they spend most or all of their tax cut. That is not true of the cuts to the top 5%. Thus, the tax cuts to the middle income did help but not those for the wealthy. CBO said, $270 Billion of the deficit last year was due to the Bush tax cuts. We are borrowing money and paying interest on that borrowed money to give tax cuts to the wealthy.

Great economics!

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George Bush has done no better, nor no worse, than any President before him. The only difference is, is that he is challenged by an even more aggressive world than twenty or forty years ago. It seems that, as more and more nations find themselves ungovernable, the US president finds more is demanded from his role. I hope he tells Syria to get the hell out of Lebanon pronto or he'll kick ass! Who else will do it?

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Sorry, I forgot to log in but the thought remains the same.

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Draginol

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When the Fed cuts $1 in Federal Income taxes there must be growth of $4 in new taxable income to break even from the tax cut. That is not the result of the Bush tax cuts. The cuts to the middle income has helped grow the economy because they spend most or all of their tax cut. That is not true of the cuts to the top 5%. Thus, the tax cuts to the middle income did help but not those for the wealthy. CBO said, $270 Billion of the deficit last year was due to the Bush tax cuts. We are borrowing money and paying interest on that borrowed money to give tax cuts to the wealthy.

Give me a link that shows that the CBO said $270 billion of last year's deficit was from the tax cut. I find that pretty unlikely.

Moreover, as you regularly point out, the deficit was >$270 billion.

If you're so worried about the deficit, you should advocate a spending freeze. I suspect I pay more in taxes in one year than you've paid throughout your life. I'm paying my share, thank you. Feel free to pitch in more.

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I will try and locate that reference. How would you have a spending freeze and maintain the Army or for that matter anything else since inflation can not be stopped? There are things like $25-30 billion in pork that could be eliminated and restore the tax rates to the top two income breckets to pre 2001 levels. Close the corporate loop holes and I bet we would be a lot closer to a balanced budget. You are correct, the deficit is a lot more then $270 Billion and that is why closing loop holes and cutting some spending programs are a must. But cuts and closing loop holes will not produce $670 Billion per year. It will require more Federal Income.

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Draginol

I am still looking. In the mean time look at www.bushtax.com/

also www.ctj.org/htm/gwb0602.htm

There is some much data that shows who is getting what from the Bush tax cuts. Most of it goes to the top 5%.

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Show me a president that got elected by offering less. People want spendy officials. It has a pseudo romantic feel good quality to it.

This dipshit has:
-isolated the muslim community by demonizing islam through demogaugery.
-Flushed 50 years of international talks down the toilet by reinventing torture via one Alberto Gonzales, and limited the application of the geneva conventions through a non combantant clause.
-Has copied the dems by spending social security on the needs of the day. Woohoo until collection time comes!
-Has grabbed unconstitutional power via document hr 3162 otherwise known as patriot act 2.
-Has manipulated the stock market, the commodities markets and debased the dollar with the plunge protection team.
-Has made a life approach to answering all disputes with hard interventionism.
-Has the right to seize any person anywhere in the world and expropriate them to whenever they want without reason or trial.
-Has circumvented congress by growing the pentagon and therefore only answerable to the president. Not that the CIA record was stellar but at least they had to report to someone.
-Has deconstructed the policitical structure around him by either agreeing with him or getting a pink slip. Come to think of it apply that to the military under Wolfewitz/Kristol/Rumsfeld as well.
-And yes he has given one time tax cuts that have further indebted the nation. Sustainable - no.

The entire military complex with domestic law have changed more in the last 5 years than in the last 50. This list is only from 2001 on and off the top of my head. Give me time and the red ink will fly.

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This dipshit has:
-isolated the muslim community by demonizing islam through demogaugery.
-Flushed 50 years of international talks down the toilet by reinventing torture via one Alberto Gonzales, and limited the application of the geneva conventions through a non combantant clause.
-Has copied the dems by spending social security on the needs of the day. Woohoo until collection time comes!
-Has grabbed unconstitutional power via document hr 3162 otherwise known as patriot act 2.
-Has manipulated the stock market, the commodities markets and debased the dollar with the plunge protection team.
-Has made a life approach to answering all disputes with hard interventionism.
-Has the right to seize any person anywhere in the world and expropriate them to whenever they want without reason or trial.
-Has circumvented congress by growing the pentagon and therefore only answerable to the president. Not that the CIA record was stellar but at least they had to report to someone.
-Has deconstructed the policitical structure around him by either agreeing with him or getting a pink slip. Come to think of it apply that to the military under Wolfewitz/Kristol/Rumsfeld as well.
-And yes he has given one time tax cuts that have further indebted the nation. Sustainable - no.

The entire military complex with domestic law have changed more in the last 5 years than in the last 50. This list is only from 2001 on and off the top of my head. Give me time and the red ink will fly

It's called deal with it! He's in office until 2008 and *nothing you or your loopy lobotomized leftists can say or do is going to accomplish one damn thing.

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Slanderer, the question is "What has Bush done that has helped us?"

This dipshit has: ..........

A person of like mind. This is great! I use the word "dipshit" all the time to describe that scumsucking sack of garbage. Fact is, he's done nothing meaningful. Absolutely nothing helpful. Some will say the tax cuts were beneficial, but really, who have they helped? Maybe put a bit more jingle into most peoples' pockets for a day or two, but the cost to our society has been huge. Our children and grandchildren will be paying for that poor excuse for a tax break for years to come. Except of course, the wealthiest in our society. If it was up to the dipshit, he'd make sure their kids do not shoulder the future debt at all.

I cannot understand how a taxcut, be it in wartime or not, that has sunk this country into the deepest deficits in history can be considered a good thing. Spin, is all. Now, to defray those taxcuts, they're looking to cut the spending that would benefit the most fragile aspects of our society, the poorest, sickest and uneducated. They're looking to deregulate industries that will save bucks for the feds, but cost the environment big time, in industrial pollution, inappropriate logging, etc.

I really hate our f*cking dipshit president and all his bosses. History will not treat any of them kindly.

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dabe

I take it you can not come up with ANY accomplishments that "HELPS US" ?

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Draginol

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There is some much data that shows who is getting what from the Bush tax cuts. Most of it goes to the top 5%.

Of course the top 5% get most of the tax cuts. We're paying almost all the taxes for crying out loud. You can't give money back to people who aren't paying in. Your other link was a 404 and I am still waiting for your CBO link that says $270 billion last year of the deficit was due to the tax cuts -- I find that very unlikely.

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Draginol

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I take it you can not come up with ANY accomplishments that "HELPS US" ?

Wow, one left wing extremist can't think of anything that Bush has done to help people to explain to another left-wing extremist. What a shock.

I noticed you ignored what I had written -- that the only reason you can sit on this site and bitch about Bush is because the tax cut provided the additional capital needed to hire an additional software developer who in turn was assigned to create this site.

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The point is that given the deficit, we simply can not afford the loss in federal revenue caused by the tax cuts to the wealthy. There is no series of cuts that would be acceptable to Americans that will bridge the difference between Federal revenue and Expenses. That means, even with cuts and closing corporate tax loop holes, there will need to be more tax revenue. The wealthy are the only source for the needed money. Even the Fed Chairman, a republican said last week that the deficits are unsustainable. He and O'Neil told Bush when he started with the tax cuts that tax cuts should be dependent on a surplus to pay for them. They both told Bush not to return to annual deficits. What did Bush do, created the largest deficits in our history by cutting taxes and increasing spending with no end in sight.

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I take it you can not come up with ANY accomplishments that "HELPS US" ?

Actually, Colonel, I cannot. Nada. Zilch. Zero. Goose egg. Nothing. Can you?

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It's called deal with it! He's in office until 2008 and *nothing you or your loopy lobotomized leftists can say or do is going to accomplish one damn thing.

What? No denial? Good strategy on the personal attacks. Ha!

Actually in one way he does help us. While this man will go down in history as the most financially loose president ever, the democrats have not helped the situation. The platforms they had during the Kerry campaign called for even more spending than Bush's. So while I won't call him "conservative" I will call more financially responsible than the opposition. Sad state of affairs really.

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It's called deal with it! He's in office until 2008 and *nothing you or your loopy lobotomized leftists can say or do is going to accomplish one damn thing.

What? No denial? Good strategy on the personal attacks. Ha!

Personal attack? You obviously do not know what an attack is. That is unless you claim to be a loopy lobotomized leftist?

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Draginol

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The point is that given the deficit, we simply can not afford the loss in federal revenue caused by the tax cuts to the wealthy.

You saying we can't afford it doesn't mean it's true. First, you have no idea how much, if any, of the federal deficit is caused by tax cuts.

You know what kind of tax proposal I would support? A consumption tax. The top 5% of the people pay half the taxes. Did you even know that? I bet you didn't or you would quit ranting about "tax cuts for the rich".

A consumption tax would be much more fair. 1% consumption tax on non-food purchases over $10.

What annoys me about our tax system is that half the adult population basically pays no federal income taxes.

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Dabe

His road map in the middle east conflict was a good plan and he got agreement from all the essential factions. He failed to make sure the plan was carried out and that all parties upheld their responsibilities.

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Draginol

I did read the article that estimated 270 Billion in 2004 is due to the tax cuts. I can not locate it . The issue is that he continued tax cuts and making them permanent is bad policy. The Brookings Institute did a study that showed making the Bush tax cuts permanent would aid $2.4 trillion by 2014 to the national debt. You can go to their web site to find that study.

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Draginol

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The Brookings institute is a left-leaning thinktank. It means nothing. The Heritage Foundation (the right wing version of the Brookings Institute) has numerous articles talking about how much the economy will grow thanks to those tax cuts.

See, here's the thing - you don't like the deficit. I don't like the deficit. Your solution is to make me and others like me pay to bring it down. My solution is to freeze spending across the board.

People of my view are the ones in control of the congress and people like you are influential enough to keep congress from freezing spending.

So it's a deadlock and hence the tax cuts stay.

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I guess the CBO is also a left-leaning thinktank. They just indicated that the Bush tax policies will add another 2.58 Trillion to the deficit. There is nothing wrong with the tax rates that were in effect prior to 2001. People in your income bracket had the best ten years in their history. I know I did. If you believe things like the military, or any other agency that employs people or buys anything can be level funded, you have lost it. We could cut the 30 Billion of pork but the GOP, who has the power to cut that, will not. Starving the Beast is going to create such a financial problem, only very large tax increases will keep us solvent!

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Draginol

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Col Gene - you have yet to provide a link to the CBO quote you claimed. You have very little credibility. The CBO, at most, estimates what it thinks deficits will be in coming years. It doesn't cast a "Blame" towards them.

I'm all for cutting welfare programs. Tell ya what, you raise social security retirement age to 75 years old, eliminate medicaid, make it so that only those who are 75 years or older can receive social security and I'll support your tax increase.

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