Republicans out to DESTROY social security!!

so says SHRILLERY and the lunatic fringe.

from JoeUser Forums
Here we go, while watching that bastion of RIGHTWING news cnn, there she was in liver errrr living color, the former first girly, HILLERY {that thing will never touch my lips bill} CLINTON.

Starting off with” the Republicans has been trying to DESTROY social security for 60 years”, hmmmmmmm 60? Destroy? Hmmmmm

Sandwiching more lies and talking liberal head rhetoric before ending with.

“The republicans are out to get the middle class and destroy their retirement.”

What a gal, a real American heroine. Totally in line with American values. Knowing how difficult it is to make it from paycheck to paycheck.

If I hear one more LIBERAL multi millionaire say “I understand the common man” I am going to puke all over the nearest liberal I encounter.
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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top
Not arguing that Hillary has issues, but how is throwing social security out the window a bad thing? Maybe it's just me, but I'd like to think that I can figure out how to save my money for retirement better then the government can so stop taking a chunk of my paycheck for that purpose (not that i'm employed now, but that's besides the point).
Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: Danny BassettePosted: Friday, March 04, 2005Not arguing that Hillary has issues, but how is throwing social security out the window a bad thing? Maybe it's just me, but I'd like to think that I can figure out how to save my money for retirement better then the government can so stop taking a chunk of my paycheck for that purpose (not that i'm employed now, but that's besides the point).


it is just trying to throw more fear danny into older people, many of them rely on s.s. to survive.
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Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top
Social Security was NEVER intended as a pension, it was a measly supplement only intended for people who actually lived long enough to collect. Roosevelt hisself (intended, I am from West Virginia) considered the same program President Bush is pushing, allowing citizens to invest a portion in the market. If people are so myopic as to rely on Social Security to sustain their waning days, then I want no part of it. Honestly, who from 24-40 ever considered Social Security when they thought of retiring? If you answered yes, beware for I will hunt you down and collect my portion in any way I see fit. You didn't earn my money and I didn't yours. I'm sorry, I don't believe in forced charity.
Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top
I guess Miss Hillary still feels slighted for the overwhelming rejection of her attempt to steal the entire healthcare system.

I'm sorry, I don't believe in forced charity.


What gets me is how many democrats consider government charity the only "real" way to "help the poor". Apparently, if it we would rather decide to who we want to donate, to who we DON'T want to donate, or whether or not TO donate, we are just selfish pigs. ;~D

It is my suspicion that they want the government to take care of people, so they can feel less guilty for not doing anything themselves.
Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top
consider government charity the only "real" way to "help the poor".


Payroll tax is charity?
Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top
Social Security was NEVER intended as a pension,


this I know, but so many use the extra monies to suppliment their savings,you might be suprised at how many live COMPLETELY off their ss checks, sad but tru many americans when young just cannot see their future as old people.
Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: stevendedalusPosted: Saturday, March 05, 2005consider government charity the only "real" way to "help the poor". Payroll tax is charity?


not in MY world steven, I do think the cap on payroll tax should be raised ...
Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top
Better take a look at England. They changed their Social Security system the way Bush is proposing 25 years ago. It has been a failure and the British are changing back to the system like we have now.
Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top

Not arguing that Hillary has issues, but how is throwing social security out the window a bad thing? Maybe it's just me, but I'd like to think that I can figure out how to save my money for retirement better then the government can so stop taking a chunk of my paycheck for that purpose (not that i'm employed now, but that's besides the point).

Danny, coming from one as young as you, that is refreshing!  But your generation has to fight the AARP.  It should be thrown out, but they vote more than you, even tho you outnumber them!

Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top

Payroll tax is charity?

No Forced Charity!  Get it straight.

Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: COL GenePosted: Saturday, March 05, 2005Better take a look at England. They changed their Social Security system the way Bush is proposing 25 years ago. It has been a failure and the British are changing back to the system like we have now.


since there is NO FIRM PLAN IN PLACE FOR CHANGING OUR SS PLAN HOW CAN YOU compre it to anything?
Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: Dr. GuyPosted: Saturday, March 05, 2005Payroll tax is charity?No Forced Charity! Get it straight.


I do not think payroll tax can be construed as charity doc.
Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top

I do not think payroll tax can be construed as charity doc

it is an oxymoron.  Forced Charity is not charity.  Think about it.  Was King Johns men taking charity from the poor?

Reply #14 from JoeUser Forums Top
The concept of private accounts is the common thread. That is the Bush idea and it did not work in England.

By the way, how is Bush selling his Social Security plan without the details? Just listen to Saint George-- He knows best! Look what he has done with trade, jobs and the deficit. I will not get into Iraq.
Reply #15 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: COL GenePosted: Saturday, March 05, 2005The concept of private accounts is the common thread. That is the Bush idea and it did not work in England.By the way, how is Bush selling his Social Security plan without the details? Just listen to Saint George-- He knows best! Look what he has done with trade, jobs and the deficit. I will not get into Iraq.


ah gene yer so much fun..... gnp all time high... 5.4 enemployment,, huge deficit well one of 3 aint bad for a liberal gene, usually it's all lies but I got to give ya yer props, ya got one right.
Reply #16 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: ParaTed2kPosted: Saturday, March 05, 2005I guess Miss Hillary still feels slighted for the overwhelming rejection of her attempt to steal the entire healthcare system.


Shrillery feels slighted by anything even remotely conservative. period.
Reply #17 from JoeUser Forums Top
it is an oxymoron. Forced Charity is not charity. Think about it. Was King Johns men taking charity from the poor


nope but then the monies taken in form of tax was kept by kingjohn, never to be disbersed back to those taken from.
Reply #18 from JoeUser Forums Top
Bush takes from the poor (and middle class) and gives to the rich.
Reply #19 from JoeUser Forums Top

Col Gene, that is so ignorant that it's disgusting.

What exactly are "the poor" paying in that I'm taking from them? Please tell me. I would really like to know how the poor are helping me. How the poor are being robbed from in order to give things to me.

Reply #20 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: COL GenePosted: Saturday, March 05, 2005Bush takes from the poor (and middle class) and gives to the rich


I am now putting drguys words to me in action when recieving silly answeres.. laught first. hahahahahahah then ignore.
Reply #21 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: DraginolPosted: Saturday, March 05, 2005Col Gene, that is so ignorant that it's disgusting.What exactly are "the poor" paying in that I'm taking from them? Please tell me. I would really like to know how the poor are helping me. How the poor are being robbed from in order to give things to me.


simple brad the poor helps you and me by "relieving us of any extra monies we might have" save us from having to do something for ourselves.
Reply #22 from JoeUser Forums Top

The concept of private accounts is the common thread. That is the Bush idea and it did not work in England.


Why don't you use the correct info. First and foremost you will only be allowed to put up to 4% in a private account Just so people understand that Bush does NOT want to entirely shut down SS.
Reply #23 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: drmilerPosted: Saturday, March 05, 2005The concept of private accounts is the common thread. That is the Bush idea and it did not work in England.Why don't you use the correct info. First and foremost you will only be allowed to put up to 4% in a private account Just so people understand that Bush does NOT want to entirely shut down SS


there ya go again trying to use facts when argueing with a liberal.... you must use fantasies as that's all they seem to understand
Reply #24 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: drmilerPosted: Saturday, March 05, 2005The concept of private accounts is the common thread. That is the Bush idea and it did not work in England.Why don't you use the correct info. First and foremost you will only be allowed to put up to 4% in a private account Just so people understand that Bush does NOT want to entirely shut down SS


there ya go again trying to use facts when argueing with a liberal.... you must use fantasies as that's all they seem to understand
Reply #25 from JoeUser Forums Top
It is not the 4% it is where are the trillions comming from to replace the 4%. Also if the market is down (like from 2000-2003) when you retire, the little guy can get killed. Also who pays to maintain tens of millions of those little account?
Where does the money come from to pay the retirement benefits to those too old for the individual accounts. It would be nice to have answers to these questions from Professor Bush! When do we get the details? After we purchase the "used car"