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CLinton, A Hero?

How many rapist do you love?

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So many young people and other liberals look at Clinton as the Icon, the Big daddy.  Mr, can do no wrong (forgetting he is the only elected president to ever get impeached for lying under oath).  But lest we forget, his finer moments on the stage of criminal or at least predatory behaviour:

Juanita Broaddrick (AR)- rape
Eileen Wellstone (Oxford) - rape
Elizabeth Ward Gracen - rape - quid pro quo, post incident intimidation
Regina Hopper Blakely - "forced himself on her, biting, bruising her"
Kathleen Willey (WH) - sexual assault, intimidations, threats
Sandra Allen James (DC) - sexual assault
22 Year Old 1972 (Yale) - sexual assault
Kathy Bradshaw (AK) - sexual assault
Cristy Zercher - unwelcomed sexual advance, intimidations
Paula Jones (AR) - unwelcomed sexual advance, exposure, bordering on sexual assault
Carolyn Moffet -unwelcomed sexual advance, exposure, bordering on sexual assault
1974 student at University of Arkansas - unwelcomed physical contact
1978-1980 - seven complaints per Arkansas state troopers
Monica Lewinsky - quid pro quo, post incident character assault
Gennifer Flowers - quid pro quo, post incident character assault
Dolly Kyle Browning - post incident character assault
Sally Perdue - post incident threats
Betty Dalton - rebuffed his advances, married to one of his supporters
Denise Reeder - apologetic note scanned

Ah, but everyone makes mistakes, right?  But 20 of them and counting?  Now some may discount this list, for it is only their word against his, a convicted liar.  But one against 20?  HOw about just rumors?

Marilyn Jo Jenkins - rumored
Susan Coleman - rumored (suicide 7.5 months pregnant)
Robyn Dickey -rumored, staffer
Lenora Steinkamp - rumored - mystery jogger on video tape entering the "infamous hallway" with Clinton
Kimba Wood - rumored, judge
Kelley Craighead - rumored, staffer to Bill and Hillary
Sharline Wilson - rumored, claimed drug association
Dee Dee Myers - rumored, staffer
Suzie Whitacre - rumored
Catherine Cornelius - rumored, "distant cousin".
Cheryl Mills - rumored, WH attorney
Current Secret Paramour (per Tripp/King interview) - rumored

Where there is smoke there is fire.  After all, if you had a convicted serial rapist living in your neighborhood, would he not be the first to suspect when another rape occurred? (Put your hand down Hillary).

Hero? Hero?  if the man was not such a slick talker, he would be serving a life sentence as all rapist do.

And you call him a hero?  You poor misguided pathetic fool.

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Reply #26 from JoeUser Forums Top
"But Broaddrick could not remember the date, even the month, of the alleged 1978 incident."- From the first Post article

"But the man Broaddrick was married to at the time, Gary Hickey, told NBC he did not remember the injury or her attempt to blame it on an accident. Myers said divorce records show Broaddrick's claim of an altercation in which she says Hickey hit her in the mouth. But she said this was a one-time incident." -Also from the first Post article


TYSKNEWS is a conservative site. so no cred. Also, it's an OP/ED piece

The troopers have been proven liars multiple times. No cred here either

"I had sex with Bill Clinton, but the important part to me is that I was never pressured," Gracen, an Arkansas native, told the News. "We had an intimate evening. Nothing was ever forced." -From the Time article (i think that one is my favorite of all of them)

"After Willey's TV interview, the White House made public copies of several letters showing that Willey sought Clinton's attention even after their purported encounter." - From The Post

"He (clinton) writes that her "sad tale" was part of a conspiracy by conservatives, including Whitewater independent counsel Kenneth W. Starr, to "discredit me and impair my ability so serve." - From the Jerusalem article. I agree with him completely!

Slate was a promo for the STAR magazine. THAT"S your idea of journalistic credibility??

My god... You're completely and uttery clueless.


Reply #27 from JoeUser Forums Top
Uhm...MSNBC in my opinion is the most unbiased of all of them. Never said they were rightie, just that Joe was working there.

Game over...You lose!
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Reply #28 from JoeUser Forums Top
See, Arkansas is a small state. And Clinton was like a rock star here. He was a young, popular governor, and he had groupies. Nobody denies this. Nobody denies that he's had several extra-marital affairs. But the rape stuff is garbage. And the stories have never held up under pressure and scrutiny. Unless you are a rabid rancorous retarded rightie (which is my new answer to your loopy left junk).
Reply #29 from JoeUser Forums Top
Can i use that too Myr?
Reply #30 from JoeUser Forums Top

Uhm...MSNBC in my opinion is the most unbiased of all of them. Never said they were rightie, just that Joe was working there.

Game over...You lose!

I provide links, you provide opinion.  Guess you dont know how to play.  You lose.  Wnat some credibility?  Try giving one iota of sources.  You cant.  You have none!  And that was just the tip of the iceberg, so get a life.  You are loopy.

Reply #31 from JoeUser Forums Top
Guess you better talk to your firewall guys. BTW, the Congressional record, and the Washington Post are not Right wing sources. You loose.


Again, not willing to jump into this debate, but wanted to let you know that the links didn't work for me either...and it actually said, "article deleted".
Reply #32 from JoeUser Forums Top
Try giving one iota of sources.


I quoted a signed affadavit. You can find it through Google in about 4 seconds.

Can i use that too Myr?


Of course, it's free to all.
Reply #33 from JoeUser Forums Top
I have been offering my opinions the whole time whereas you provide crap to back you up. Seems as if since you have no credibility whatsoever you have to resort to the same old name calling you always do.

And the game is over. Buhbye!
Reply #34 from JoeUser Forums Top

I have been offering my opinions the whole time whereas you provide crap to back you up. Seems as if since you have no credibility whatsoever you have to resort to the same old name calling you always do.

And the game is over. Buhbye!

If looopy is the worst you have ever been called, you are a lucky man.  And your opinion is like your asshole.  You have one, but it is as useful.  So dont come onto my blogs spouting your opinions to refute my facts.  You want to deny it?  Fine, but then dont call the Washington Pest, the Congressional Record, Time Magazine, ABC, CBS and other sources right wing trash bags.  They may be trash bags, but they are not right wing.

Now run along and lick your wounds, and try playing with the big boys when you can post something that does not come from your ass as facts.

Reply #35 from JoeUser Forums Top

Again, not willing to jump into this debate, but wanted to let you know that the links didn't work for me either...and it actually said, "article deleted".

Try the links I posted for Alison then.  They work for me, and are a bit more mainstream for those who think CBS is right wing.

Reply #36 from JoeUser Forums Top
Are signed affadavits not legitimate? Or are you ignoring somebody who posted from an actual legal document?

The affadavit didn't come from my ass, either, it came from Juanita Broddrick's mouth when she was still being called "Jane Doe #5" in the Paula Corbin Jones case.
Reply #37 from JoeUser Forums Top
I mean, there have been 13 posts since I quoted Broddrick's sworn statement, and you've ignored them.
Reply #38 from JoeUser Forums Top

Reply #8 By: thatoneguyinslc - 1/27/2005 10:52:31 AM
I would gone elsewhere than Hil. Prolly like doing a bag of ice...

I see you got a lot of this drivel from NEWSMAX. Like they have any real credibility.

And i have no problem with killing terrorists guy. I have a problem with 1400 + US military personnel being killed in a war that is based on lies.

Let's look at your links shall we?

#1: Deleted
#2 404 Not found
#3 Also deleted
#4 Also deleted
#5 Guess what? ALSO deleted!


I really hate to say this doc but he's right. 4 out of 5 are deleted and the 5th is 404 page not found. And try not to tell me to talk to the firewall guys. Because I don't have one.
Reply #39 from JoeUser Forums Top


I really hate to say this doc but he's right. 4 out of 5 are deleted and the 5th is 404 page not found. And try not to tell me to talk to the firewall guys. Because I don't have one.

I reposted them in response to Alison.  There apparenlty was a problem with the cut and paste.

Reply #40 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply #39 By: Dr. Guy - 1/27/2005 12:57:22 PM

I really hate to say this doc but he's right. 4 out of 5 are deleted and the 5th is 404 page not found. And try not to tell me to talk to the firewall guys. Because I don't have one.

I reposted them in response to Alison. There apparenlty was a problem with the cut and paste.


Musta missed that. Have to go back and look again. Thanks Doc.
Reply #41 from JoeUser Forums Top

Musta missed that. Have to go back and look again. Thanks Doc.

I was trying to be fancy.  Guess I better stick to basic HTML!

Reply #42 from PolMach Forums Top
Wow. You really could of said something meaningful here, Doc. You could of said that it was oxymoronic that we would idolize a man who was proved to have cheated on his wife, been tried (but not convicted, so under the premise of innocent til proven guilty, he's INNOCENT) of perjury, and possibly segued into the fact he changed his political stripes in office as often as I change my underwear.

Instead, you recycled the stuff that Starr couldn't bust him on, the same crap we just had been subjected 8 years to, and you still fail to make a valid point on how this president was guilty of some of the things you accuse him of. At least when we liberals bring up things like the 9/11 Commission testimony of Rice and the failures in the war of Iraq, they're somewhat current.

And then you've got the nerve to quote news stories as 'proof' these acts happened. I could cite Cheney's corruption with Halliburtion the exact same way. Fact is, neither of them have been prosecuted for it, so all we're doing is spewing rhetoric back and forth. And then you guys throw the red flag and cry foul when we mock Bush, and wonder why we don't work with the Republicans. The attitude of poor fool is the elitist one most democrats are accused of, and you've just proven that the right is as capable of the left of it. Your credibilty is shot, and your claims are infantile, and I thought you a better man that this.
Reply #43 from JoeUser Forums Top

been tried (but not convicted, so under the premise of innocent til proven guilty, he's INNOCENT) of perjury

He was impeached, but found not Guilty.  He pled guilty to perjury, sohe is guilty.  You dont lose your law license for leachery.

Reply #44 from JoeUser Forums Top

 

Instead, you recycled the stuff that Starr couldn't bust him on, the same crap we just had been subjected 8 years to, and you still fail to make a valid point on how this president was guilty of some of the things you accuse him of. At least when we liberals bring up things like the 9/11 Commission testimony of Rice and the failures in the war of Iraq, they're somewhat current.

Uh, sorry.  This is not Starr stuff.  You are wrong.  These are alegations by women, never proven, but aledged (and I never said it was proven).  However, if we have a choice to believe a known liar, or the testimony of 20 women, some with witnesses, then I chose the latter.  As for your alegations, you dont even have facts, just the seriousness of the charges.

And then you've got the nerve to quote news stories as 'proof' these acts happened. I could cite Cheney's corruption with Halliburtion the exact same way. Fact is, neither of them have been prosecuted for it, so all we're doing is spewing rhetoric back and forth. And then you guys throw the red flag and cry foul when we mock Bush, and wonder why we don't work with the Republicans. The attitude of poor fool is the elitist one most democrats are accused of, and you've just proven that the right is as capable of the left of it. Your credibilty is shot, and your claims are infantile, and I thought you a better man that this.

No, sir you have the nerve to slander me.  Please provide a direct quote when I said 'proof they happened'.  I used the links to show that the allegations are real, and not some part of the vast right wing conspiracy.  I dont wonder why you dont work with republicans (and for the umpteenth time, I am not one), as when you cannot even read simple english, how can you understand complex issues like running the country?

The tone of your repsonse as of the other liberals indicates this hit too close to home.  You know they are true, you just want 'plausible denialbility'.  Sorry, if that is what you want, go find it in a whorehouse.  You wont find it here.

Reply #45 from JoeUser Forums Top
lol

What about the sworn testimony I mentioned?

I can find instances for every single one of these women.

You support lies when they fit your paradigm of the world. This is why you are part of the the rabid, rancorous, retard right.
Reply #46 from JoeUser Forums Top

Reply #45 By: Myrrander - 1/27/2005 3:54:24 PM
lol

What about the sworn testimony I mentioned?

I can find instances for every single one of these women.

You support lies when they fit your paradigm of the world. This is why you are part of the the rabid, rancorous, retard right.


And you belong to the idiotic left! He never said he supported squat! He offered his links as ALLEGATIONS!! I'm sure you know the difference. Don't you?
Reply #47 from JoeUser Forums Top
nd you belong to the idiotic left! He never said he supported squat! He offered his links as ALLEGATIONS!! I'm sure you know the difference. Don't you?


breathe in and out.. cannot you see thats what the left does when they are losing a point, the accuse they disinfo ya to death and when all else fails they say "oh yeh, pick their ball up and go home"
Reply #48 from JoeUser Forums Top
*smirk*

I've said nothing about disinformation. Just that actual information was being ignored. Take your beta blockers, kids.
Reply #49 from JoeUser Forums Top

Reply #48 By: Myrrander - 1/27/2005 9:39:00 PM
*smirk*

I've said nothing about disinformation. Just that actual information was being ignored. Take your beta blockers, kids.


As you ignored his links to the "allegations".
Reply #50 from PolMach Forums Top
I used the links to show that the allegations are real, and not some part of the vast right wing conspiracy.


*eye roll* ...And you didn't even do that. I can allege you're an ass and get it published, doesn't mean it's true, but it is 'real', you're right about that. You also said that the list was 'documented to be correct' in your first reply. If something is alleged to be correct, it means you have proof of it's correctness, which means you've proved it, yes? You've checked these statements veracity, or made sure these journalists did?

All documented to be correct
--direct quote. if it's correct, it's proven. Since you brought it up, you must of correlated the facts and 'proved' it.

I dont wonder why you dont work with republicans (and for the umpteenth time, I am not one), as when you cannot even read simple english, how can you understand complex issues like running the country?


Nah, you just cheerlead for them. I can read simple English just fine, thank you. I'm not one who said it was 'documented to be correct' (and for something to be correct, you must have proof that it is, in fact so), and then blasted me for slander. Just because it came out of someone's mouth and someone wrote it down doesn't have proof of veracity.

The tone of your repsonse as of the other liberals indicates this hit too close to home. You know they are true, you just want 'plausible denialbility'. Sorry, if that is what you want, go find it in a whorehouse. You wont find it here.


So...I've heard conservatives protest the liberal assertation that the war was wrong a little loudly. So does that make that statement any more correct as well if you've proved the first? I'm sorry, the back and forthing is confusing.