Gideon MacLeish Gideon MacLeish

Respect the Office

Respect the Office

I am not a fan of George W. Bush's policies in most areas.

I can't say I dislike the man, I've never met him. Frankly, he seems like he'd be a halfway decent partner for quail shooting or cards, or some such activity.

But I WILL defer to what I have been taught since I was old enough to have an opinion on such things, and that is that a certain respect for the office is my DUTY as a citizen of this country.

While the 2000 election may have been questionable, it doesn't change the fact that George W. Bush won enough other states to make his place as the US president at LEAST as valid as Bill Clinton's notorious "plurality" in 1992. Further, the 2004 election, conspiracy theorists aside, seems to have been definitively decided for Bush (where were all those "popular vote" whiners from 2000?). And as such, Bush is deserving of my support and loyalty through his tenure in office.

I will criticize the policies that I feel are inept and inane, but I will remember that the man is the elected leader of this country, and, no matter how I may feel about that, my respect for the Democratic process must keep me from trying to subvert the will of the majority, no matter how misguided I feel it may have been. In criticizing Bush's policies, however, I hope that I can provide some viable solutions, as I feel no criticism is complete without them.

It's my hope that a few more of my countrymen will at least attempt to show the same level of respect for the office.

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Reply #26 Top
Np... it makes no sense anyways...
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Reply #21 By: whoman69 - 1/6/2005 10:57:56 AM
This is pure BS! Clinton did himself in! Kenneth Starr may have started it, but did they ever get *anything* else on "Slick Willie"? Nope! Only lying under oath. So hence the statement he did himself in. I don't care how you slice this up or spin it. It still comes down to what I said. I could give a rat's butt if he had oral sex on the white house lawn. Just don't lie about it when asked under *oath*!.



Who put him under oath. Kenneth Starr. He put forth a grand jury in a civil suit that involved a complaint of one person against one person. Can anyone site another one on one civil suit that goes to a grand jury? That's Kenneth Starr for you. And what the hell did Monica Lewinsky have to do with Paula Jones anyway?

But the disrepect for Clinton began well before this even came about.


You missed the point! Yes Starr put him on the stand. But did he tell him to lie? I think not. Ball's in "Slick Willie's" court.
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Reply #22 By: thatoneguyinslc - 1/6/2005 11:56:44 AM
Which is a bigger lie...Lying about getting a BJ, or a lie to 250 million people that causes the deaths of 1000+ soldiers sailors and airmen?

I think i can understand bubba's lie...Would you want to tell the truth about that and then have to go home to Hillary? I know i wouldn't.

Sorry Gid, didn't mean to hijack....

Is GW on the stand under oath? Nope! Was Clinton? YES!
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Is GW on the stand under oath? Nope! Was Clinton? YES!


Has Bill Clinton been out of office for four years, and maybe it's time to get over it? YES!


Sorry, folks, I love you, but...relevance?

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You missed the point! Yes Starr put him on the stand. But did he tell him to lie? I think not. Ball's in "Slick Willie's" court.


After nearly three years of legal pressure put on by Starr. Clinton should have never been on the stand because unless you're on Ken Starr's sh!t list then you don't go before a grand jury in a one on one civil case. While it was stupid, Clinton actually believed, and his lawyers didn't correct him on this, that the judge's legal definition of sex did not include oral sex. Can anyone tell me what a willing partner in Monica Lewinsky has to do with a sexual harrassment case? Starr was going to embarass the President, and he found a way to do so. In addition, Ken Starr was never asked to be a "independent" special prosecutor in the Paula Jones case, only the Whitewater matter.
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Ken Starr was never asked to be a "independent" special prosecutor in the Paula Jones case, only the Whitewater matter.


Indeed. The whitewater thing become secondary when those bloodthirsty politicians got whiff of possibility of hurting Clinton.
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Sorry, folks, I love you, but...relevance?


I'm with Gideon on this one....but I'm afraid I might have started it with my 'getting a BJ' example of disrespecting the Office ....I am sorry, Gideon.  I should have known better....I should have known that people aren't going to be able to look at the big picture when it comes to politics, they'll get tangled up in the intimacies instead.


No offense implied to anyone, just so y'all know.

Reply #33 Top
Agreed Gid, sorry for taking it off track.
Reply #34 Top
Me too! I apologize.