Reply By: Dr. GuyPosted: Wednesday, December 22, 2004The first sign of the Armageddon!!! FARTs have multiplied and spread ignorance and fear over the US like the plague - and are they are now infiltrating the Internet, spreading stupidity and intolerance in an attempt to begin the greatest war ever!!! The rest of the world must racially profile all Americans to stop the spread of these narrow-minded FARTs all over the globe!!! For the good of America and the world - act now!!!How is 'detecting a pattern' in any way equal to spreading hate? I think you are on the wrong thread, or are spouting out of more than one oriface.The attack on the olympics in 1978, who did this? FMT.BTW: It was 72. I know, I was 90 klicks south of the olympics when it happened

thanx for the date correction drguy..........and there ya gho again trying to make sense with a lunatic.. lolololol

Reply By: mismosPosted: Wednesday, December 22, 2004If the government knew that a group of angry young male Mexicans with shaved heads and tattoos on their scalps planned to blow up an INS building in Texas, would they therefore have cause to do a strip-search on a middle-aged blonde Canadian lady crossing the border at Niagara Falls?This is a specific event and not a generilization. You know of a specific group of Mexicans and a target. A terrorist can be any nationality (American), any religion (Christian), and age or sex, and strike anywhere in the world at any particular group. To just say muslims are to be targeted because of a few cases would be like me pointing out of bunch of terrible things that a group of Americans or Christians have done (and lists have been compilied) and then preceding to paint all Americans/Christians with the same brush. It just doesn't work to generlize large groups of people like this, it is the product of a weak mind the can't grasp the larger picture. Anyone can be a terrorist - even people who feel they have good intentions yet still spread terror over the internet through bigotry and ignorance.How is 'detecting a pattern' in any way equal to spreading hate? I think you are on the wrong thread, or are spouting out of more than one oriface.The problem is that you are forcing the pattern - if I throw into your list the names of shit loads of other terrorists that are not muslim than you no longer have any pattern. The pattern you create is extremely weak because only a very small percentage of muslims are terrorists (the same goes for and religion).Learn to think and not just opinionate - you guys are colour-blind to the world - it's not just black and white.

never said ALL muslims are bad guys just stated a fact about several events that were perpratrated by muslims....


breathe,,,,, breathe,,,,, calm...,calm

Reply By: Helix the IIPosted: Wednesday, December 22, 2004Usually the first people to yell Nazi are the first people to yell fire in a crowded theatre without provacation. It is an over-reaction, an exaggerated response of the very narrow-minded PC crowd. The hate they spew the second someone suggests anything that's even half-way logical (but offensive to a group of people) is on level if not above the hatred of the groups they protest and behave vehemently towards. Mismos, your outburst and extreme reaction over the article is as unreasonable, hate filled, and narrow minded as any KKK or Nazi member. Someone disagrees with you, you insult them, slander them. accuse them of being hateful (with venom in your own voice) and shout to the mountain tops that they are unresonable hate-mongers.. when the evil poison courses through your very veins.No, the world isn't just black and white, but you have no place telling others what colors they must accept because you do.

Now thats a to the point and logigalresponse. have a insitefull cream filled cookie

Reply By: mismosPosted: Wednesday, December 22, 2004

sir your repeated blathering here is not only mean but totally unkind. what my post was is a message about unfairness and lack of common sense. your assumeing I am some kind of nazi {i am a jew} or narrow minded {while your shouting to all if you dont agree with you THEY ARE ALL WRONG} pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Reply By: ParaTed2kPosted: Wednesday, December 22, 2004I am a Red-headed, Blue-Eyed, Freckle-faced, left-handed, colorblind, Mormon, Disabled, Military Retiree. I only fly a few times a year, but everytime I have flown, I have been "Randomized". I wonder how many other Red-headed, Blue-Eyed, Freckle-faced, left-handed, colorblind, Mormon, Disabled, Military Retirees get "randomized" everytime they fly? I would bet that the percentage of Red-headed, Blue-Eyed, Freckle-faced, left-handed, colorblind, Mormon, Disabled, Military Retirees who get "randomized" 100% of the time they fly is pretty high.Strange that we are so profiled, I can't think of any terrorists who have been (or seemed to be) Red-headed, Blue-Eyed, Freckle-faced, left-handed, colorblind, Mormon, Disabled, Military Retirees. ;~D

all the while letting jama el kalil muhammed and his family walk thru untouched because heaven forbid we might get called racist.. BAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Reply By: messybuuPosted: Wednesday, December 22, 2004If there was anything 'half-way' logical about it then that would have been fine. But not only is it not logical but there is an major facts that people here have to ignore to come to these conclusions (stated above).If there's a significant number of non-Muslim terrorists who have hijacked planes, then I'd love to see a list, and I'll definitely have to rethink my views, but until then, it appears that most hijackers are Muslims, and although you might want to search people in an airport who don't fit such a profile, I'd rather search the people most likely to fit that profile. If searching them is hateful, then is it hateful to search a non-Muslim woman in her fifties?

my point exactly!!!

Reply #38 By: Evan Trivett - 12/22/2004 5:23:50 PM you guys need to stop argueing over petty detailes and know that if racial profiling helps to stop terrorism then its good. Until a better way is submitted and aproved then it will do. Yes, some airports need reform in that area but so many other ways are put into action to stop terrorism. My dad just spent a week training to carry a gun on the airplanes as a captain for America Airlines.

Good! It's about time the FAA got off their collective butts. Evan tell your dad "good luck and be careful". Also one word of caution to him, "always be *sure* of your intended target".

Terrorists don't just hihack planes you realize and this post isn't just about hijackers. Also although I don't sit in front of a pile of stats I am positive there have been non-Muslims that have hijacked planes before. If you NEED an instance then you really are as narrow-minded as I thought you were. How many muslims have hijacked planes in the US in the last 50 years. Three or Four? out of about a billion muslims? Your odds are really really slim.

No, but isn't this about airport security? Shouldn't we focus on terrorists that do hijack planes?
Also, aren't you the one who made the claim that non-Muslims have hijacked planes (and in such a significant number that it'd disprove the pattern of FMTs hijacking planes)? If you make a claim, you're the one obliged to back it up.

I am sorry but I find the tone of this post quite malicious.

How is it malicious? Do you believe your tone was respectful and mature? Do you honestly think people will take you seriously when you're throwing tantrums and insults rather than maturely discussing the topic? If you want to ignore my advice, then do so. You're the one who'll be disregarded as a kook.

So people here don't hate Muslims but just feel like they are inheritely out to kill them. Thanks for the clarification. Personally I find people of this mentality hard headed so I had no intention of debating with people who generalize so broadly and think in such a narrow frame-work.

Also, since searching Muslims equates to thinking they are inherently out to kill us, does that mean that searching a non-Muslim woman in her fifties equates to thinking she is inherently out to kill us?

So, you're not here to have a reasonable discussion? You're only here to troll? With such behavior, do you honestly think people will take you seriously anymore?

Reply By: messybuuPosted: Wednesday, December 22, 2004

Also, since searching Muslims equates to thinking they are inherently out to kill us, does that mean that searching a non-Muslim woman in her fifties equates to thinking she is inherently out to kill us?So, you're not here to have a reasonable discussion? You're only here to troll? With such behavior, do you honestly think people will take you seriously anymore?

thank you messybuu for putting the cap on this I did not flame back because some people are just not willing to discuss things it "my way is right" "your way is wrong" period and if that does not work then stir the water fling some mud and try to confuse the issue as much as possable. I am sure that my wife has evil intentions at the airport and plans useing her cellphone to detonate the explosives stuffed in her bra. bwahahahahahahahaha I am willing to BET if a Bunch of white cristians or jews blew up a few arabian airliners they would have no problem slamming down on the whites,

Go find a KKK party to spread this despicable hate propaganda!

way to add consturctively to a discussion. Or not. Have some trollings:)

I get pissed off to no end, right through the ceiling, when I see guys who look like me, i.e., who fit the profile, skirt on through, while others, such as little blue-haired old ladies- are stopped and searched. The U.S. Constitution and its bill of rights were not designed to be a suicide pact. To get on airliner when a person who obviously fits the determined profile has not been thoroughly checked and cleared is to play Russian roulette with all the lives bordering that plane.

Also, aren't you the one who made the claim that non-Muslims have hijacked planes (and in such a significant number that it'd disprove the pattern of FMTs hijacking planes)?

skyjacking (the most accurate designation for hijacking commercial planes as opposed to a land vehicle) first became a popular sport in the early 60s when a number of flights were forcibly rerouted to cuba.  during the early to mid-60s almost all commercial airliners hijackings were committed by white americans, black americans or hispanic americans--many of whom were nuts or fugitives.  some cubans (and other residents of soviet bloc countries) also took over and rerouted flights to the us.  i cant recall when skyjacking became a specified federal crime but i do know cuba initially granted asylum to those who flew to cuba and the us granted asylum to soviet bloc hijackers.  there have also been chinese skyjackers. 

since 1969 or 1970,  most planes that have been highjacked with any kind of agenda (as opposed to solo nut cases) have been hijacked by palestinians, arabs, pakistanis, lebanese, kashmiris, etc.